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Post by Guest on Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:08 pm

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We may know the party line but what if the candidate turns out to be a hateful bigot, does our vote give them the chance to advance their bigotry.

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Post by Guest on Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:16 pm

risingsun wrote:
Shady wrote:Hang on a minute.I thought I was the one with the black heart?

Shady, you are just confused.  Sometimes you come on as a decent human being, sometimes you come on as a troll that frankly needs a bloody good slapped arse.

LOL! A slapped arse indeed.

How can I be a troll when I use this site.....when I'm home on a fairly regular basis?

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Post by sassy on Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:18 pm

Shady wrote:
risingsun wrote:

Shady, you are just confused.  Sometimes you come on as a decent human being, sometimes you come on as a troll that frankly needs a bloody good slapped arse.

LOL! A slapped arse indeed.

How can I be a troll when I use this site.....when I'm home on a fairly regular basis?

It's not the site you use, it's the way you use it, and your intentions at the time, and you are so transparent when you are in toll mode.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:23 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:and none of the Christian threads do that, hat a surprise..lol

Sounds like you're taking the threads that criticize Christianity pretty personally -- I for one don't make them to have a go at any Christian member of the site.

Here's one thread that might be thought of as Christian-bashing that I created before HF or VOD ever signed up:

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t623-florida-christian-children-s-entertainer-sentenced-to-20-years-for-oh-god-no-you-sick-sick-bastard

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Post by Guest on Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:33 pm

risingsun wrote:
Shady wrote:

LOL! A slapped arse indeed.

How can I be a troll when I use this site.....when I'm home on a fairly regular basis?

It's not the site you use, it's the way you use it, and your intentions at the time, and you are so transparent when you are in toll mode.

I call it being playful.

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Post by sassy on Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:37 pm

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risingsun wrote:

It's not the site you use, it's the way you use it, and your intentions at the time, and you are so transparent when you are in toll mode.

I call it being playful.

I call it being a pain in the proverbial butt! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Post by Guest on Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:47 pm

risingsun wrote:
Shady wrote:

I call it being playful.

I call it being a pain in the proverbial butt! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

I can't always help myself as some things just set me off.

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Post by sassy on Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:51 pm

Shady wrote:
risingsun wrote:

I call it being a pain in the proverbial butt! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

I can't always help myself as some things just set me off.

Well I can't help wanting to slap you when you do it! Twisted Evil

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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:46 am

no the old battle axe cross dresser just judges jews for some reason...

such a wonderful candidate, it would have been an asset to the nation...lol

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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:38 pm

risingsun wrote:
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so since being back on here what exactly have i said to you ?
You're not dreaming are you .

You see, you don't understand VOD.  I don't judge you on what you say to me.   I judge you on what you say to others and about other things, and I judge you for being with HF and standing up for him and agreeing with him, because his heart is even blacker than yours, and he so enjoys trying to hurt as many people as possible.  

In that case then you're horrible and have a heart of stone , you call hell out of anyone who you don't like . You just condemned yourself there sassy . I wish we were all perfect but we are'nt are we , you have your fair share of nastiness on here so don't think you're an angel lol

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:53 pm

risingsun wrote:
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so since being back on here what exactly have i said to you ?
You're not dreaming are you .

You see, you don't understand VOD.  I don't judge you on what you say to me.   I judge you on what you say to others and about other things, and I judge you for being with HF and standing up for him and agreeing with him, because his heart is even blacker than yours, and he so enjoys trying to hurt as many people as possible.  

Are you suggesting that VOD should divorce HF because you don't approve of him? Cool

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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:58 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
risingsun wrote:

You see, you don't understand VOD.  I don't judge you on what you say to me.   I judge you on what you say to others and about other things, and I judge you for being with HF and standing up for him and agreeing with him, because his heart is even blacker than yours, and he so enjoys trying to hurt as many people as possible.  

Are you suggesting that VOD should divorce HF because you don't approve of him? Cool

it isn't the first time sassy has suggested this she even tried to say he beats me up , she is just horrible at times .

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:00 pm

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Vicar of Dibley wrote:I don't think sassy should be representing anyone she is intolerant and her hatred towards Christians is just well hateful .

It is very commendable that someone will do what sassy did but she just isn't the right person to represent people with her attitude .

Yes it is commendable (will HF call you an arselicker too? Rolling Eyes )
I don't think sassy "hates" Christians - she'll correct me if I'm wrong I'm sure - but perhaps she sees a hypercritical qualify to SOME Christians.
She campaigns for Muslims but I'm sure she'd  see there's a hypercritical qualify to them too.

You point out flaws within Islamic teachings yet I'd never say you "hated" Muslims Vod?

Campaigns for Muslims? Don't you mean she campaigns for Palestine?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:19 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:so the six voters were happy you were a bigot, thank goodness you didn't get in...

other issues could be anti or pro abortion, does our vote validate what they stand for, should we not vote at all...

I generally ask them where they stand on the issue of hunting with dogs. It usually throws them a bit. Laughing

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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:22 pm

I can't stand the thought of fox hunting Sad

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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:24 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:so the six voters were happy you were a bigot, thank goodness you didn't get in...

other issues could be anti or pro abortion, does our vote validate what they stand for, should we not vote at all...

I generally ask them where they stand on the issue of hunting with dogs. It usually throws them a bit. Laughing

I am beginning to think if i should vote or not and this has nothing to do with sassy, in essence i am giving my permission to who ever i vote for to do what is best in their opinion, they could think abortion is a good idea, they might think legalising cannabis is a good idea.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:39 pm

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Raggamuffin wrote:

I generally ask them where they stand on the issue of hunting with dogs. It usually throws them a bit. Laughing

I am beginning to think if i should vote or not and this has nothing to do with sassy, in essence i am giving my permission to who ever i vote for to do what is best in their opinion, they could think abortion is a good idea, they might think legalising cannabis is a good idea.

Well are you voting for the person or for their views? If you have strong feelings about a certain issue, it's a good idea to ask them where they stand on that issue.


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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:59 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

I am beginning to think if i should vote or not and this has nothing to do with sassy, in essence i am giving my permission to who ever i vote for to do what is best in their opinion, they could think abortion is a good idea, they might think legalising cannabis is a good idea.

Well are you voting for the person or for their views? If you have strong feelings about a certain issue, it's a good idea to ask them where they stand on that issue.


just a couple of problems with that, politicians lie, sometimes they don't know as the lie has been passed on to them, the other problem is they might tell you the party line but not risk personal ideals they hold..

i could inadvertently give some one the power to kill babies when they vote to extend the time a woman can be pregnant and still have an abortion..

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:00 pm

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Raggamuffin wrote:

Well are you voting for the person or for their views? If you have strong feelings about a certain issue, it's a good idea to ask them where they stand on that issue.


just a couple of problems with that, politicians lie, sometimes they don't know as the lie has been passed on to them, the other problem is they might tell you the party line but not risk personal ideals they hold..

i could inadvertently give some one the power to kill babies when they vote to extend the time a woman can be pregnant and still have an abortion..

You can't do much about them lying, but if you ask them face-to-face, you would probably get a good idea of their real views.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:03 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

just a couple of problems with that, politicians lie, sometimes they don't know as the lie has been passed on to them, the other problem is they might tell you the party line but not risk personal ideals they hold..

i could inadvertently give some one the power to kill babies when they vote to extend the time a woman can be pregnant and still have an abortion..

You can't do much about them lying, but if you ask them face-to-face, you would probably get a good idea of their real views.

that is true... i might stop voting though, I don't want to encourage the people they put up to vote for... none of the above is beginning to look like the best option..

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:05 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You can't do much about them lying, but if you ask them face-to-face, you would probably get a good idea of their real views.

that is true... i might stop voting though, I don't want to encourage the people they put up to vote for... none of the above is beginning to look like the best option..

If a candidate is a member of a political party, you'd get a pretty good idea of the party line they're going to follow. If they're not though, you would need to ask them questions and see what they say - and how they say it.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:07 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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that is true... i might stop voting though, I don't want to encourage the people they put up to vote for... none of the above is beginning to look like the best option..

If a candidate is a member of a political party, you'd get a pretty good idea of the party line they're going to follow. If they're not though, you would need to ask them questions and see what they say - and how they say it.

not so sure you would get much out of them, they would be scared of saying something that would stop you voting for them..

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:12 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

If a candidate is a member of a political party, you'd get a pretty good idea of the party line they're going to follow. If they're not though, you would need to ask them questions and see what they say - and how they say it.

not so sure you would get much out of them, they would be scared of saying something that would stop you voting for them..

That depends on how you put the question ...

Leave it open-ended without saying what your own view is.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:13 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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not so sure you would get much out of them, they would be scared of saying something that would stop you voting for them..

That depends on how you put the question ...

Leave it open-ended without saying what your own view is.

something like " so what do you think of queers" lol...

only joking....

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:14 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

That depends on how you put the question ...

Leave it open-ended without saying what your own view is.

something like " so what do you think of queers" lol...

only joking....

I think that might be a bit of a giveaway HF. rabbit

Seriously though, I just ask them where they stand on certain issues, and I don't give them a clue as to what I think about the issues.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:16 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

something like " so what do you think of queers" lol...

only joking....

I think that might be a bit of a giveaway HF. rabbit

Seriously though, I just ask them where they stand on certain issues, and I don't give them a clue as to what I think about the issues.

well i've got a few years to think of some probing questions...

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:42 am

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I like to think its a more civilized form of discussion.  I don't know what that says about Christian threads, because I rarely read them.  But if they do that, they simply haven't caught up.

I had a feeling your comment only works one way how very fair of you..... Smile

No, it's two-way here.  It's the Christian threads that I don't know about.  I rarely get into bible study much.  It's like having a discussion on comic books.  Waste of time, really.

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Post by Guest on Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:40 pm

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I had a feeling your comment only works one way how very fair of you..... Smile

No, it's two-way here.  It's the Christian threads that I don't know about.  I rarely get into bible study much.  It's like having a discussion on comic books.  Waste of time, really.

and that is why you are a bigot...

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