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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 8:13 am

Douglas Carswell, the Ukip MP, said he feared for his life after being surrounded by anti-austerity demonstrators who accused him of being a racist and a fascist.

Wow. Chatting with @DouglasCarswell at St James. And some friends turned up... pic.twitter.com/POVjAwu6Cu
— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) May 27, 2015

Dozens of protesters, some of whom were wearing balaclavas, surrounded the MP at St James' Park underground station and chanted "Ukip racist" at him.
Sajid Javid, the Business Secretary, said the attack was "outrageous" and showed "no respect for democracy and freedom of speech".

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— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) May 27, 2015

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11634479/Douglas-Carswell-accosted-by-protestors-chanting-racist.html


The difference between far left and far right supporters?
Nothing, they are both vile and intolerant bigots.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu May 28, 2015 9:12 am

Belatucadros wrote:Douglas Carswell, the Ukip MP, said he feared for his life after being surrounded by anti-austerity demonstrators who accused him of being a racist and a fascist.

Wow. Chatting with @DouglasCarswell at St James. And some friends turned up... pic.twitter.com/POVjAwu6Cu
— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) May 27, 2015

Dozens of protesters, some of whom were wearing balaclavas, surrounded the MP at St James' Park underground station and chanted "Ukip racist" at him.
Sajid Javid, the Business Secretary, said the attack was "outrageous" and showed "no respect for democracy and freedom of speech".

pic.twitter.com/vpY7BEbg0B
— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) May 27, 2015

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11634479/Douglas-Carswell-accosted-by-protestors-chanting-racist.html


The difference between far left and far right supporters?
Nothing, they are both vile and intolerant bigots.
I expect nothing less from that anti tory rabble. they are just bad losers who first instinct when losing again is to resort to violence and intimidation. It is ever the way of the left

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu May 28, 2015 9:24 am

Yeah, because this is about winning and losing elections Rolling Eyes

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 9:24 am

It's the hypocrisy which is the worst thing - the way that some people imply that "left wing" thugs are somehow more virtuous than "right wing" thugs. I always thought that about UAF as well.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 9:26 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Yeah, because this is about winning and losing elections Rolling Eyes

It is in a way because the demonstrators were protesting about austerity - ie, they were protesting against the Tories winning, and anyone they see as being allied to them in any way.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu May 28, 2015 9:32 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Yeah, because this is about winning and losing elections Rolling Eyes

It is in a way because the demonstrators were protesting about austerity - ie, they were protesting against the Tories winning, and anyone they see as being allied to them in any way.

So austerity is just this abstract concept, with no repercussions on real people's lives.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 9:34 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It is in a way because the demonstrators were protesting about austerity - ie, they were protesting against the Tories winning, and anyone they see as being allied to them in any way.

So austerity is just this abstract concept, with no repercussions on real people's lives.

That doesn't alter the fact that they were protesting about the Tories winning the election.

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 9:36 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It is in a way because the demonstrators were protesting about austerity - ie, they were protesting against the Tories winning, and anyone they see as being allied to them in any way.

So austerity is just this abstract concept, with no repercussions on real people's lives.

Ben, I have nothing against people protesting.
Here though people turning up with their faces hidden, gives you a clue to the intent of those doing so.
One that clearly is intent on creating trouble. This is then backed up by the fact there was clashes with the Police
No MP no matter their views should be subjected to such intimidation.
Like I say, the far left are no different to the far right.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu May 28, 2015 9:37 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It is in a way because the demonstrators were protesting about austerity - ie, they were protesting against the Tories winning, and anyone they see as being allied to them in any way.

So austerity is just this abstract concept, with no repercussions on real people's lives.

That doesn't alter the fact that they were protesting about the Tories winning the election.

Ah, so now austerity has nothing to do with it.


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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu May 28, 2015 9:38 am

Belatucadros wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It is in a way because the demonstrators were protesting about austerity - ie, they were protesting against the Tories winning, and anyone they see as being allied to them in any way.

So austerity is just this abstract concept, with no repercussions on real people's lives.

Ben, I have nothing against people protesting.
Here though people turning up with their faces hidden, gives you a clue to the intent of those doing so.
One that clearly is intent on creating trouble. This is then backed up by the fact there was clashes with the Police
No MP no matter their views should be subjected to such intimidation.
Like I say, the far left are no different to the far right.

No, there is a difference. The far left don't cut the throats of the poor to pay down the debt.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 9:41 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

That doesn't alter the fact that they were protesting about the Tories winning the election.

Ah, so now austerity has nothing to do with it.


*sigh*

You appeared to be claiming that who won the election had nothing to do with this subject, and you rolled your eyes at Dean for saying that the anti-Tory lot are bad losers.

However, it is connected to who won or lost the election because the protests were against the Tory austerity programme. If the Tories had not won, there would not have been a protest.

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 9:41 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Belatucadros wrote:

Ben, I have nothing against people protesting.
Here though people turning up with their faces hidden, gives you a clue to the intent of those doing so.
One that clearly is intent on creating trouble. This is then backed up by the fact there was clashes with the Police
No MP no matter their views should be subjected to such intimidation.
Like I say, the far left are no different to the far right.

No, there is a difference. The far left don't cut the throats of the poor to pay down the debt.

Sorry but that is abusrd, they would cut anyones throat who gets in their way.
You seem to fail to understand there has been more far left terrorism in Europea than there has been far right over the last decade..


https://www.europol.europa.eu/latest_publications/37


If you back intolerance over democratic process, then you do not stand for democracy and wish to impose your views.
Protests are fine, not violence and intimdation, so please spare me the claptrap

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 9:53 am

Ben, are you seriously defending the people who threatened Douglas Carswell in that manner?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu May 28, 2015 9:56 am

Raggamuffin wrote:Ben, are you seriously defending the people who threatened Douglas Carswell in that manner?

Fuck Douglas Carswell, the little prancing ninny wasn't hurt, was he?

How many will be hurt by his ignorant policies?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 9:58 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Ben, are you seriously defending the people who threatened Douglas Carswell in that manner?

Fuck Douglas Carswell, the little prancing ninny wasn't hurt, was he?

How many will be hurt by his ignorant policies?

Matthew 23:24

So you are defending them. At least you admit it.




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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 10:01 am

By the way, nobody will be hurt by his polices because his party doesn't exactly have a majority in Parliament.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu May 28, 2015 10:02 am

Raggamuffin wrote:By the way, nobody will be hurt by his polices because his party doesn't exactly have a majority in Parliament.

So now they're not even enacting austerity policies?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu May 28, 2015 10:04 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Ben, are you seriously defending the people who threatened Douglas Carswell in that manner?

Fuck Douglas Carswell, the little prancing ninny wasn't hurt, was he?

How many will be hurt by his ignorant policies?

Matthew 23:24

So you are defending them. At least you admit it.




They didn't ruffle a hair on his precious little head, the raging whiner. Yeah, I wish one of them had punched him in the face. People like him are too sublimely idiotic to understand anything else.

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 10:05 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Ben, are you seriously defending the people who threatened Douglas Carswell in that manner?

Fuck Douglas Carswell, the little prancing ninny wasn't hurt, was he?

How many will be hurt by his ignorant policies?

Matthew 23:24

Wow, so you basically back intimidation when democracy does not go your way.
Again there is nothing wrong with protests but by you backing intimidation for not liking something you thus allow any intimidation to anyone based off the same principle Ben.
That means you should then not argue if someone intimidates a Muslim for not liking Muslims.
Sorry I happen to disagree with you thinking its ever okay to intimidate anyone.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 10:07 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:By the way, nobody will be hurt by his polices because his party doesn't exactly have a majority in Parliament.

So now they're not even enacting austerity policies?

UKIP? They only have one MP.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu May 28, 2015 10:09 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Raggamuffin wrote:By the way, nobody will be hurt by his polices because his party doesn't exactly have a majority in Parliament.

So now they're not even enacting austerity policies?

UKIP? They only have one MP.

They, as in the idiot right of your benighted country.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 10:09 am

I will give Ben the benefit of the doubt here. He is defending those yobs because he doesn't like UKIP. If some anti-hunt protestors said mean things to a hunter, I'd probably defend them. Razz

I wouldn't support direct threats though - well not much.

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 10:09 am

Belatucadros wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

Fuck Douglas Carswell, the little prancing ninny wasn't hurt, was he?

How many will be hurt by his ignorant policies?

Matthew 23:24

Wow, so you basically back intimidation when democracy does not go your way.
Again there is nothing wrong with protests but by you backing intimidation for not liking something you thus allow any intimidation to anyone based off the same principle Ben.
That means you should then not argue if someone intimidates a Muslim for not liking Muslims.
Sorry I happen to disagree with you thinking its ever okay to intimidate anyone.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 10:10 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

UKIP? They only have one MP.

They, as in the idiot right of your benighted country.

UKIP have nothing to do with Tory austerity measures. The man was merely waiting at a bus stop and he was attacked.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu May 28, 2015 10:32 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

UKIP? They only have one MP.

They, as in the idiot right of your benighted country.

UKIP have nothing to do with Tory austerity measures. The man was merely waiting at a bus stop and he was attacked.

Didn't UKIP want to privatize the NHS? Before, of course, they wanted to protect it Smile

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 10:35 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

UKIP have nothing to do with Tory austerity measures. The man was merely waiting at a bus stop and he was attacked.

Didn't UKIP want to privatize the NHS? Before, of course, they wanted to protect it Smile

That depends on how you define "privatisation".

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 10:50 am

cops should have shot them (the so called "protesters", the masked cowards and common bandits) Twisted Evil

ad then sent the bill for the police actio to their relatives


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it is perfectly possible to protest peaceably and without making any kind of contact with the object of your dislike...

just like the anti hunting idiots....

like that silly girl that got flattened by a horse...protesting at
NOT a "live hunt " NOTE that it wasnt a "live hunt" but a trail hunt (which shows the distinct lack of IQ involved here)

IF the idiot protestors had merely "protested" in a reasonable manner

AND NOT DELIBERATELY tried to disrupt people GOING ABOUT THEIR LAWFUL business then that accident would not have happened

she brought it on herself (with the moronic aid of her friend? as the footage shows)

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 10:52 am

I wouldnt ban protests

but I WOULD make it law that the protestors (and any item they have )

MUST be at least 10 feet from their intended object of protest

any closer would be considered "riot" and punished appropriately(with life improisonment or death or something Laughing )

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 10:53 am

darknessss wrote:cops should have shot them (the so called "protesters", the masked cowards and common bandits) Twisted Evil

ad then sent the bill for the police actio to their relatives


scum

it is perfectly possible to protest peaceably and without making any kind of contact with the object of your dislike...

just like the anti hunting idiots....

like that silly girl that got flattened by a horse...protesting at
NOT a "live hunt "   NOTE that it wasnt a "live hunt" but a trail hunt (which shows the distinct lack of IQ involved here)

IF the idiot protestors had merely "protested" in a reasonable manner

AND NOT DELIBERATELY tried to disrupt people GOING ABOUT THEIR LAWFUL business then that accident would not have happened

she brought it on herself   (with the moronic aid of her friend?  as the footage shows)

The pro-hunters are also quite volatile and aggressive - hunt protestors have been attacked by pro-hunters.

At one protest I went to, I'm pleased to say that the police took a very dim view of the abuse we got from the pro-hunters.

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 11:05 am

But what I want to know is...WTF were they protesting at a "trail hunt" for

is it really true that "antis" are thick as two short planks?

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 11:09 am

and of course antis would never resort to violence would they

i mean it was the fairies that beat the hunt master with iron bars (at yet another TRAIL HUNT)

they dont do damage ...like keying cars and smashing car windows

they NEVER break the law do they (as in when they go around disrupting people carring out their LAWFUL business....)

oh no the poor little anti is only looking after fluffy woofy bunnies

not really out for some aggro and trouble

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 11:10 am

darknessss wrote:But what I want to know is...WTF were they protesting at a "trail hunt" for

is it really true that "antis" are thick as two short planks?

No, it's not true - and I'm sure that Ben will tell you off for generalising in that manner.



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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 11:17 am

so please explain......what were they doing protesting at a trail hunt???

you know one of those mock hunts where the hounds follow a pre laid scent trail and no foxes involved....

could it be they were just lefty wankers out to target what they see as "toffs" having fun?

nothing more than trouble makers

again the police should have arrested them all...since they were clearly there without any cause for protest, hence what they were doing was "riot"

and unlawful (since they were harassing people going about their LAWFUL business)

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 11:20 am

darknessss wrote:so please explain......what were they doing protesting at a trail hunt???

you know one of those mock hunts where the hounds follow a pre laid scent trail   and no foxes involved....

could it be they were just lefty wankers out to target what they see as "toffs" having fun?

nothing more than trouble makers

again the police should have arrested them all...since they were clearly there without any cause for protest, hence what they were doing was "riot"

and unlawful (since they were harassing people going about their LAWFUL business)

Can you link to the story please? There are lot of incidents involving that kind of thing.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu May 28, 2015 11:26 am

Meanwhile, let's hear a bit from people who have been affected by austerity measures:

In the United States, more than five million Americans have lost access to healthcare since the recession began, essentially because when they lost their jobs, they also lost their health insurance. And in the UK, the authors say, 10,000 families have been pushed into homelessness following housing benefit cuts.

The most extreme case, says Stuckler, reeling off numbers he knows now by heart, is Greece. "There, austerity to meet targets set by the troika is leading to a public-health disaster," he says. "Greece has cut its health system by more than 40%. As the health minister said: 'These aren't cuts with a scalpel, they're cuts with a butcher's knife.'"

Worse, those cuts have been decided "not by doctors and healthcare professionals, but by economists and financial managers. The plan was simply to get health spending down to 6% of GDP. Where did that number come from? It's less than the UK, less than Germany, way less than the US."

The consequences have been dramatic. Cuts in HIV-prevention budgets have coincided with a 200% increase in the virus in Greece, driven by a sharp rise in intravenous drug use against the background of a youth unemployment rate now running at more than 50% and a spike in homelessness of around a quarter. The World Health Organisation, Stuckler says, recommends a supply of 200 clean needles a year for each intravenous drug user; groups that work with users in Athens estimate the current number available is about three.

In terms of "economic" suicides, "Greece has gone from one extreme to the other. It used to have one of Europe's lowest suicide rates; it has seen a more than 60% rise."

In general, each suicide corresponds to around 10 suicide attempts and – it varies from country to country – between 100 and 1,000 new cases of depression. In Greece, says Stuckler, "that's reflected in surveys that show a doubling in cases of depression; in psychiatry services saying they're overwhelmed; in charity helplines reporting huge increases in calls".

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/15/recessions-hurt-but-austerity-kills

A 60 percent rise in suicide attempts. 10,000 more homeless families in the U.S. But OH MY GOD, SOME POSH FUCK GOT SHOVED. SAME THING.

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Re: Douglas Carswell shoved and taunted by anti-austerity protesters

Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 11:30 am

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darknessss wrote:so please explain......what were they doing protesting at a trail hunt???

you know one of those mock hunts where the hounds follow a pre laid scent trail   and no foxes involved....

could it be they were just lefty wankers out to target what they see as "toffs" having fun?

nothing more than trouble makers

again the police should have arrested them all...since they were clearly there without any cause for protest, hence what they were doing was "riot"

and unlawful (since they were harassing people going about their LAWFUL business)

Can you link to the story please? There are lot of incidents involving that kind of thing.

Do your own research you idle moo Razz

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 11:34 am

oh alright then


heres the one about the iron bar incident

Police have dropped an investigation into a vicious assault on a huntsman just three months after it took place – despite a wealth of evidence pointing to the identity of a suspected attacker.

Last night the victim, Mike Lane, 40, who was beaten by balaclava-clad protesters armed with iron bars on ropes, condemned the decision by police as ‘pathetic’.

He said: ‘They could have made more effort. Everyone is very disappointed. I’ve been told that unless further evidence comes forward, the attackers are not likely to be found. We find it pathetic.’




A video of the incident and a dossier of evidence, including some names of saboteurs and their car registration numbers, was given to Wiltshire Police after the assault.

The attack at Everleigh, near Amesbury, took place even though the 30 riders and their hounds were chasing only an artificial scent, rather than a fox.

During the incident, Mr Lane, who is joint master of the Tedworth Hunt, was sent flying to the ground, before being kicked in the head. He was admitted to hospital with concussion and broken teeth and his face was swollen. Since the attack he has suffered memory loss.

The face of the thug who kicked Mr Lane was captured on video. Following the attack, Wiltshire Police issued the suspect’s photograph, although he has not been identified.

In an exclusive interview with The Mail on Sunday, Mr Lane said: ‘I’ve been told by police they are shelving their inquiries due to insufficient evidence. It’s angered us because we gave them evidence. I’m beginning to lose my trust in the police.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3045178/Fury-police-drop-probe-brutal-iron-bar-attack-huntsman-despite-dossier-evidence-possible-suspect.html#ixzz3bQbbhRkt
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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 11:40 am

Can you link to the story about the girl who was flattened by a horse?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 11:40 am

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Raggamuffin wrote:

Can you link to the story please? There are lot of incidents involving that kind of thing.

Do your own research you idle moo Razz

I could, and then I could post loads of links to incidents where pro-hunters have attacked anti-hunters.

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 11:45 am

very little out there about the girl flattened by a horse...primarily because i think its still under investigation....

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu May 28, 2015 11:46 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Meanwhile, let's hear a bit from people who have been affected by austerity measures:

In the United States, more than five million Americans have lost access to healthcare since the recession began, essentially because when they lost their jobs, they also lost their health insurance. And in the UK, the authors say, 10,000 families have been pushed into homelessness following housing benefit cuts.

The most extreme case, says Stuckler, reeling off numbers he knows now by heart, is Greece. "There, austerity to meet targets set by the troika is leading to a public-health disaster," he says. "Greece has cut its health system by more than 40%. As the health minister said: 'These aren't cuts with a scalpel, they're cuts with a butcher's knife.'"

Worse, those cuts have been decided "not by doctors and healthcare professionals, but by economists and financial managers. The plan was simply to get health spending down to 6% of GDP. Where did that number come from? It's less than the UK, less than Germany, way less than the US."

The consequences have been dramatic. Cuts in HIV-prevention budgets have coincided with a 200% increase in the virus in Greece, driven by a sharp rise in intravenous drug use against the background of a youth unemployment rate now running at more than 50% and a spike in homelessness of around a quarter. The World Health Organisation, Stuckler says, recommends a supply of 200 clean needles a year for each intravenous drug user; groups that work with users in Athens estimate the current number available is about three.

In terms of "economic" suicides, "Greece has gone from one extreme to the other. It used to have one of Europe's lowest suicide rates; it has seen a more than 60% rise."

In general, each suicide corresponds to around 10 suicide attempts and – it varies from country to country – between 100 and 1,000 new cases of depression. In Greece, says Stuckler, "that's reflected in surveys that show a doubling in cases of depression; in psychiatry services saying they're overwhelmed; in charity helplines reporting huge increases in calls".

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/15/recessions-hurt-but-austerity-kills

A 60 percent rise in suicide attempts. 10,000 more homeless families in the U.S. But OH MY GOD, SOME POSH FUCK GOT SHOVED. SAME THING.

Ah, we don't want to talk about this. Let's talk about petty shit like hunting protests. Because we tackle what matters on this forum.

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I'll have a look...right now i need fooooood

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 11:47 am

darknessss wrote:very little out there about the girl flattened by a horse...primarily because i think its still under investigation....

Oh right, and yet you still managed to judge the girl.

like that silly girl that got flattened by a horse...protesting at
NOT a "live hunt " NOTE that it wasnt a "live hunt" but a trail hunt (which shows the distinct lack of IQ involved here)

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 11:49 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Meanwhile, let's hear a bit from people who have been affected by austerity measures:



http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/15/recessions-hurt-but-austerity-kills

A 60 percent rise in suicide attempts. 10,000 more homeless families in the U.S. But OH MY GOD, SOME POSH FUCK GOT SHOVED. SAME THING.

Ah, we don't want to talk about this. Let's talk about petty shit like hunting protests. Because we tackle what matters on this forum.

It might be petty shit to you, but it's not to me. Hunting with dogs is animal abuse, and if you think that's petty, well ...

I voted Labour mainly in order to get this disgusting practice wiped out - twice!

The trouble is that it's hard for the police to monitor the hunts, even if they wanted to - and a lot of them do want to. Therefore, some people become hunt monitors to make sure that the hunters aren't abusing animals and breaking the law.

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 11:53 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Meanwhile, let's hear a bit from people who have been affected by austerity measures:



http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/15/recessions-hurt-but-austerity-kills

A 60 percent rise in suicide attempts. 10,000 more homeless families in the U.S. But OH MY GOD, SOME POSH FUCK GOT SHOVED. SAME THING.

Ah, we don't want to talk about this. Let's talk about petty shit like hunting protests. Because we tackle what matters on this forum.


Well then there is a lesson to be learnt here.
Do not try and intimidate people into dealing with the matter. Instead offer reasoning on the matter and why it should be important to deal with. You do realise Hitler used intimidation on the streets of Germany with the rise of his party do you not?  People easily learn from history to avoid such people as these kind of low life scum are that intimidate others and are beyond reasoning with. Most rational people try to gain public support which will never happen if you come with intent to intimidate and start trouble through a protest.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 11:55 am

Talking about hunting protests is not petty - people have been hurt at them, or even killed.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 11:57 am

Also, it's more on topic that generalising about austerity - this thread is about bad behaviour at a protest after all.

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 12:00 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Meanwhile, let's hear a bit from people who have been affected by austerity measures:



http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/15/recessions-hurt-but-austerity-kills

A 60 percent rise in suicide attempts. 10,000 more homeless families in the U.S. But OH MY GOD, SOME POSH FUCK GOT SHOVED. SAME THING.

Ah, we don't want to talk about this. Let's talk about petty shit like hunting protests. Because we tackle what matters on this forum.

Dont get me started on HIV from intravenous drug use......

of ALL the self inflicted damage this is the nadir...

AND the chances are most of em will be criminals...(else how do they afford their next fix)

oh and DONT try to connect it (as lefties do) with health problems from tobacco....at least NOT here ...anyone who smokes over here MORE than pays the bill for any conceivable bad outcome

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Post by Guest on Thu May 28, 2015 12:02 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
darknessss wrote:very little out there about the girl flattened by a horse...primarily because i think its still under investigation....

Oh right, and yet you still managed to judge the girl.

like that silly girl that got flattened by a horse...protesting at
NOT a "live hunt "   NOTE that it wasnt a "live hunt" but a trail hunt (which shows the distinct lack of IQ involved here)

Yes ..simply because it was a Trail hunt...hence she had NO business there....
and certainly no business to be disrupting.....

she brought it on herself (in moral terms at least ) though the law of course differs....


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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu May 28, 2015 12:02 pm

There's a huge amount of money poured into treating HIV compared to other diseases or other conditions.


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