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Post by Guest on Sun May 24, 2015 1:26 pm

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Scientists from Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis have discovered bee venom can kill the HIV virus without harming the body. Bees could hold the key to preventing HIV transmission. Researchers have discovered that bee venom kills the virus while leaving body cells unharmed, which could lead to an anti-HIV vaginal gel and other treatments.




Scientists at the Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis found that melittin, a toxin found in bee venom, physically destroys the HIV virus, a breakthrough that could potentially lead to drugs that are immune to HIV resistance. The study was published Thursday in the journal Antiviral Therapy. "Our hope is that in places where HIV is running rampant, people could use this as a preventative measure to stop the initial infection," Joshua Hood, one of the authors of the study, said in a statement. The researchers attached melittin to nanoparticles that are physically smaller than HIV, which is smaller than body cells. The toxin rips holes in the virus' outer layer, destroying it, but the particles aren't large enough to damage body cells. "Based on this finding, we propose that melittin-loaded nanoparticles are well-suited for use as topical vaginal HIV virucidal agents," they write. Theoretically, the particles could also be injected into an HIV-positive person to eliminate the virus in the bloodstream. Because the toxin attacks the virus' outer layer, the virus is likely unable to develop a resistance to the substance, which could make it more effective than other HIV drugs. "Theoretically, melittin nanoparticles are not susceptible to HIV mutational resistance seen with standard HIV therapies," they write. "By disintegrating the [virus'] lipid envelope [it's] less likely to develop resistance to the melittin nanoparticles." The group plans to soon test the gel in clinical trials.


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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun May 24, 2015 9:47 pm

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I claim, notice how i can spell claim, nothing just saying if it is faulty wiring perhaps man can find a way to rewire it and cure gays... good news , plenty in here say science is better than God, so science can cure gay... Smile

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I think just because you're endowed with something doesn't necessarily mean you use it Smile

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Post by Guest on Sun May 24, 2015 10:22 pm

bias is the biggest problem with humanity and the biggest problem with bias is we chose which bias to accept..

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Post by Guest on Sun May 24, 2015 10:25 pm

and the biggest problem is some biases are more harmful than others

some merely misinform on matters that are largely irrelevant to people
others intefere with peoples lives

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Post by Guest on Sun May 24, 2015 10:29 pm

darknessss wrote:and the biggest problem is some biases are more harmful than others

some merely misinform on matters that are largely irrelevant to people
others intefere with peoples lives
all bias is harmful but we never know where the bias comes from, we never know the whole truth, so what we do is cling to what we feel is right and usually defend it too the hilt because who wants to be wrong..

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon May 25, 2015 3:11 am

eddie wrote:Again, another thread that heralded good news and instead of asking interesting questions or debating the facts, a poster has to get all snidey about it.

Come on HF, it's good news is it not??
This will help children born with HIV too!

It's not very good news for bees.


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Re: bee venom can kill the HIV virus without harming the body.

Post by Raggamuffin on Mon May 25, 2015 3:31 am

darknessss wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
I claim, notice how i can spell claim, nothing just saying if it is faulty wiring perhaps man can find a way to rewire it and cure gays... good news , plenty in here say science is better than God, so science can cure gay... Smile

why would we want to????

perhaps we can also cure religious idiots too, THAT is clearly faulty wiring

and is a far greater problem to mankind.....

As a "druide", are you not saying that you have faulty wiring yourself?

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Post by Guest on Mon May 25, 2015 9:41 am

darknessss wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
I claim, notice how i can spell claim, nothing just saying if it is faulty wiring perhaps man can find a way to rewire it and cure gays... good news , plenty in here say science is better than God, so science can cure gay... Smile

why would we want to????

perhaps we can also cure religious idiots too, THAT is clearly faulty wiring

and is a far greater problem to mankind.....
well i thought gays were always going on about being persecuted, attacked, their eye liner running, the whole world is against them, that sort of thing so if they could be cured i thought they would want to get rid of all the trouble and be normal..

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Post by Guest on Mon May 25, 2015 1:40 pm

the world would be fine for them ...if only people like YOU weren't in it....

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Post by Guest on Mon May 25, 2015 1:46 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
darknessss wrote:

why would we want to????

perhaps we can also cure religious idiots too, THAT is clearly faulty wiring

and is a far greater problem to mankind.....

As a "druide", are you not saying that you have faulty wiring yourself?

no, because unlike you raggs, I am neither religious NOR an idiot.....
I have a "world view" that is pagan

it does not depend on "faith" in a book over 2000 years old which is patently faulty and NOT the inerrant word of god
It does require its followers to learn and think in the light of that learning
It welcomes science and the input from it
even its historical ideas accord well with current knowlege

AND

most importantly we welcome other even "faith based " beliefs
until they become preachy and intolerant......
NOR do pagans wage war over who's god has a bigger dick

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Post by Guest on Mon May 25, 2015 1:47 pm

oh and we dont condemn others for mere personal matters.....
like their sexuality.........

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon May 25, 2015 1:56 pm

darknessss wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

As a "druide", are you not saying that you have faulty wiring yourself?

no, because unlike you raggs, I am neither religious NOR an idiot.....
I have a "world view"  that is pagan

it does not depend on "faith" in a book over 2000 years old which is patently faulty and NOT the inerrant word of god
It does require its followers to learn and think in the light of that learning
It welcomes science and the input from it
even its historical ideas accord well with current knowlege

AND

most importantly we welcome other even "faith based " beliefs
until they become preachy and intolerant......
NOR do pagans wage war over who's god has a bigger dick

Druidism is a religion, no?

Pagan doesn't mean that one doesn't follow a religion.

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Post by Guest on Mon May 25, 2015 1:59 pm

there is a difference between "religious" and having a belief system

the religious think everyone else should be like them OR ELSE

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon May 25, 2015 2:00 pm

darknessss wrote:there is a difference between "religious" and having a belief system

the religious think everyone else should be like them OR ELSE

So it is a religion then.

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Post by Guest on Mon May 25, 2015 2:06 pm

there is no one forced to paganism

no pagan expects anyone to "follow" their ways

unlike you......

see its not "pagans" that are "pro" gay marriage (although we accepted it first, and a long way back too)
it's society

and your views are merely an afterthought in the book of life now...

pointless and irrelevant.....

but hey...you can have your opinions

and I will continue to point out how they are irrelevant and pointless (and harmful)



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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon May 25, 2015 2:09 pm

darknessss wrote:there is no one forced to paganism

no pagan expects anyone to "follow" their ways

unlike you......

see its not "pagans" that are "pro" gay marriage (although we accepted it first, and a long way back too)
it's society

and your views are merely an afterthought in the book of life now...

pointless and irrelevant.....

but hey...you can have your opinions

and I will continue to point out how they are irrelevant and pointless (and harmful)



You still follow a religion though ...

What views are you talking about?

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Post by Guest on Mon May 25, 2015 6:10 pm

so pagans are religious as they think everyone should believe what they believe especially about gays .

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Post by Guest on Mon May 25, 2015 6:13 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:so pagans are religious as they think everyone should believe what they believe especially about gays .
they certainly are bigots and would have evryone believe what they believe..

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