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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 13:26

Scientists from Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis have discovered bee venom can kill the HIV virus without harming the body. Bees could hold the key to preventing HIV transmission. Researchers have discovered that bee venom kills the virus while leaving body cells unharmed, which could lead to an anti-HIV vaginal gel and other treatments.




Scientists at the Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis found that melittin, a toxin found in bee venom, physically destroys the HIV virus, a breakthrough that could potentially lead to drugs that are immune to HIV resistance. The study was published Thursday in the journal Antiviral Therapy. "Our hope is that in places where HIV is running rampant, people could use this as a preventative measure to stop the initial infection," Joshua Hood, one of the authors of the study, said in a statement. The researchers attached melittin to nanoparticles that are physically smaller than HIV, which is smaller than body cells. The toxin rips holes in the virus' outer layer, destroying it, but the particles aren't large enough to damage body cells. "Based on this finding, we propose that melittin-loaded nanoparticles are well-suited for use as topical vaginal HIV virucidal agents," they write. Theoretically, the particles could also be injected into an HIV-positive person to eliminate the virus in the bloodstream. Because the toxin attacks the virus' outer layer, the virus is likely unable to develop a resistance to the substance, which could make it more effective than other HIV drugs. "Theoretically, melittin nanoparticles are not susceptible to HIV mutational resistance seen with standard HIV therapies," they write. "By disintegrating the [virus'] lipid envelope [it's] less likely to develop resistance to the melittin nanoparticles." The group plans to soon test the gel in clinical trials.


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Post by sassy on Sun 24 May - 13:35

That's amazing, I wonder how long it will take them to actually bring this to fruition?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun 24 May - 16:34

Interesting...


Surely a condom would be a better and cheaper preventative measure...

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 16:38

the irony a prick gives them it and a sting cures it...

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 16:39

Tommy Monk wrote:Interesting...


Surely a condom would be a better and cheaper preventative measure...
Never having used one i don`t know, are they 100% effective against aids ?

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 16:41

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:the irony a prick gives them it and a sting cures it...
women don`t have that appendage and women can give men and women aids i understand

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 17:18

korban dallas wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:the irony a prick gives them it and a sting cures it...
women don`t have that appendage and women can give men and women aids i understand  
probably but it is a gay problem in the main...

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 17:27

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
korban dallas wrote:
women don`t have that appendage and women can give men and women aids i understand  
probably but it is a gay problem in the main...
No probably about it, And in answer to your question NO it`s not a gay problem in the main

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 17:42

korban dallas wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
probably but it is a gay problem in the main...
No probably about it, And in answer to your question NO it`s not a gay problem in the main
yeah it is....

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 17:48

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
korban dallas wrote:
No probably about it, And in answer to your question NO it`s not a gay problem in the main
yeah it is....
No its really not
But it illustrates how little you know and how easily you believe the paranoid anti gay rubbish

It`s believed to have originated in non-human primates in West-central Africa, and are believed to have transferred to humans (a process known as zoonosis) in the early 20th Century.

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heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
korban dallas wrote:
No probably about it, And in answer to your question NO it`s not a gay problem in the main
yeah it is....

No, in fact is is not. Most of the AIDS outbreak is on the African continent. It is being transmitted by any sexual contact, the predominant one being heterosexual.

People who associate AIDS with homosexuality are ...


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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 18:43

nope, they tried that story to stop gays being persecuted for it..

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 18:45

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:nope, they tried that story to stop gays being persecuted for it..

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 18:47

korban dallas wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:nope, they tried that story to stop gays being persecuted for it..
obviously you cannot see beyong your bias... Smile

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 18:54

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
korban dallas wrote:
obviously you cannot see beyong your bias... Smile

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 18:56

still showing your bias which creates the resistance to you learning... a pity really... Smile Smile

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:04

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:still showing your bias which creates the resistance to you learning... a pity really... Smile Smile
yes and it is very clear you are uneducated biased idiot your don`t even rise to the level of a fool and i would bet my learning against yours any day of the week honestly your ...........thick

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:06

korban dallas wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:still showing your bias which creates the resistance to you learning... a pity really... Smile Smile
yes and it is very clear you are uneducated biased idiot  your don`t even rise to the level of a fool and i would bet my learning against yours any day of the week honestly your ...........thick  
oh dear hit a nerve did we, never mind i'm sure the gays love you... Smile

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:13

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
korban dallas wrote:
yes and it is very clear you are uneducated biased idiot  your don`t even rise to the level of a fool and i would bet my learning against yours any day of the week honestly your ...........thick  
oh dear hit a nerve did we, never mind i'm sure the gays love you... Smile
LOl you are not smart enough to hit a nerve pall , your just a fool with a keyboard and if a gay person loves me then that`s one more than loves you locked in your bubble of hate and bigotry

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:15

korban dallas wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
oh dear hit a nerve did we, never mind i'm sure the gays love you... Smile
LOl you are not smart enough to hit a nerve pall , your just a fool with a keyboard and if a gay person loves me then that`s one more than loves you locked in your bubble of hate and bigotry
your hate and bigotry of believers do you mean or is yours founded on something more superior..lol  Smile

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:18

have you been beheaded HF???

I only ask because you are talking outta your arse again

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:20

darknessss wrote:have you been beheaded HF???

I only ask because you are talking outta your arse again
I guess that's an attempt at humour, i say attempt as it was certainly not successful... Smile

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:20

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
korban dallas wrote:
LOl you are not smart enough to hit a nerve pall , your just a fool with a keyboard and if a gay person loves me then that`s one more than loves you locked in your bubble of hate and bigotry
your hate and bigotry of believers do you mean or is yours founded on something more superior..lol  Smile
i don`t hate anybody ...well perhaps just one person but its not you or your religion and the one thing i am sure of is i am no bigot, however the same can`t be said of you can it

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:23

korban dallas wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
your hate and bigotry of believers do you mean or is yours founded on something more superior..lol  Smile
i don`t hate anybody ...well perhaps just one person but its not you or your religion and the one thing i am sure of is i am no bigot, however the same can`t be said of you can it
and neither do I, there are a few I pity and some i hope would change but i do not hate anyone..

pity about the queer gene missing, perhaps it's just down to some faulty wiring that make some gay...

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:24

oh korban and mine knowledge is founded on something FAR more superior than "faith"

and yes HF

I CAN personally

verify carbon dating and the principles behind it

etc etc etc

indeed my early career in science was doing exactly that

I CAN verify almost any physical or chemical experiment you care to mention.......given that YOU (or someone you care to nominate provide the laboratory and equipment needed...


see I am science trained.....and that training...the discipline of science........ travels across ANY field....


all you have is an (inacurate ) 2000 year old book of myths and legends

not ONE substantive part of which is verifiable.......

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:34

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
korban dallas wrote:
i don`t hate anybody ...well perhaps just one person but its not you or your religion and the one thing i am sure of is i am no bigot, however the same can`t be said of you can it
and neither do I, there are a few I pity and some i hope would change but i do not hate anyone..

pity about the queer gene missing, perhaps it's just down to some faulty wiring that make some gay...
faulty wiring ? so its gods fault after all ,he does the wiring according to you

glad we cleared that up

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:36

korban dallas wrote:
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and neither do I, there are a few I pity and some i hope would change but i do not hate anyone..

pity about the queer gene missing, perhaps it's just down to some faulty wiring that make some gay...
faulty wiring ? so its gods fault after all ,he does the wiring according to you

glad we cleared that up  
well if it is faulty wiring , we can rewire them and cure being gay, well that must be good news for all those suffering gays....lol

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:38

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
korban dallas wrote:
faulty wiring ? so its gods fault after all ,he does the wiring according to you

glad we cleared that up  
well if it is faulty wiring , we can rewire them and cure being gay, well that must be good news for all those suffering gays....lol

so you clainm to have power equal to gods now do you...how arrogant




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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:40

darknessss wrote:
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well if it is faulty wiring , we can rewire them and cure being gay, well that must be good news for all those suffering gays....lol

so you clainm to have power equal to gods now do you...how arrogant



I claim, notice how i can spell claim, nothing just saying if it is faulty wiring perhaps man can find a way to rewire it and cure gays... good news , plenty in here say science is better than God, so science can cure gay... Smile

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:53

it is the sign of a loser that they turn into spelling nazis....... Laughing

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:54

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
darknessss wrote:

so you clainm to have power equal to gods now do you...how arrogant



I claim, notice how i can spell claim, nothing just saying if it is faulty wiring perhaps man can find a way to rewire it and cure gays... good news , plenty in here say science is better than God, so science can cure gay... Smile

why would we want to????

perhaps we can also cure religious idiots too, THAT is clearly faulty wiring

and is a far greater problem to mankind.....


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heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
darknessss wrote:

so you clainm to have power equal to gods now do you...how arrogant



I claim, notice how i can spell claim, nothing just saying if it is faulty wiring perhaps man can find a way to rewire it and cure gays... good news , plenty in here say science is better than God, so science can cure gay... Smile
yes desperately sighting a typo welll done you must be cock a hoop over that one duuu your so smart

shall i point out your typos

and my power is greater than "gods" mine actually exist
Gods do not he has no power what so ever, except perhaps power over the feeble minded and perpetually stupid

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 19:57

korban dallas wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
I claim, notice how i can spell claim, nothing just saying if it is faulty wiring perhaps man can find a way to rewire it and cure gays... good news , plenty in here say science is better than God, so science can cure gay... Smile
yes desperately sighting a typo welll done you must be cock a hoop over that one duuu your so smart

shall i point out your typos

and my power is greater than "gods" mine actually exist
Gods do not he has no power what so ever, except perhaps power over the feeble minded and perpetually stupid
yet i have seen the power God has, so could you be wrong...

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 20:15

the feeble minded are easily impressed with tricks and coincidence....

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 20:17

darknessss wrote:the feeble minded are easily impressed with tricks and coincidence....
I agree but we are getting away from what science would say and trying to look for ourselves at possibilities.. Smile

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 20:20

you have seen the "power of god" ...pfffft


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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 20:21

I wont call you "liar"

but I will call you dumb

stupid
blind
ridiculous
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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 20:23

darknessss wrote:you have seen the "power of god" ...pfffft

yep... quite a few times... have you seen any vaccines being made??

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 20:31

actually...yes

i was part of a team responsible for the development of a vaccine for mycoplasma

so your point is??

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 20:36

darknessss wrote:actually...yes

i was part of a team responsible for the development of a vaccine for mycoplasma

so your point is??
and this team was where??? not that i don't believe you???

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 20:49

this team was based in a laboratory at a poultry producer in nottinghamshire
the vaccine was for poultry...
against ,mycoplasma galinarium....

we also grew on site for testing purposes the virus of
newcastle disease
infectious avian bronchitis

which, had no effective vaccine been available, would have been the first steps to doing so....


why dont you beleive in vaccines then HF???Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 20:51

darknessss wrote:this team was based in a laboratory at a poultry producer in nottinghamshire
the vaccine was for poultry...
against ,mycoplasma galinarium....

we also grew on site for testing purposes the virus of
newcastle disease
infectious avian bronchitis

which, had no effective vaccine been available, would have been the first steps to doing so....


why dont you beleive in  vaccines then HF???Rolling Eyes  
I believe in vaccines, I just wonder how long a copy and paste would take... Smile

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 20:56

why would I bother to copy and paste something thats now over 40 years old??? they fact is that the vaccine worked, but not as good as the one made by the welcome foundation....

but then they had been at the same business for longer and were a dedicated vaccine producer...

the research done at our place was, I understand, sold to them when the company went under some years later.....

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 21:00

darknessss wrote:why would I bother to copy and paste something thats now over 40 years old??? they fact is that the vaccine worked, but not as good as the one made by the welcome foundation....

but then they had been at the same business for longer and were a dedicated vaccine producer...

the research done at our place was, I understand, sold to them when the company went under some years later.....
the same reason people copy and paste, when they have no knowledge themselves..

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 21:06

well that would be you on almost every topic then.....

if it isnt in your hand book its not real eh?? or the work of the "devil"

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 21:11

darknessss wrote:well that would be you on almost every topic then.....

if it isnt in your hand book its not real eh?? or the work of the "devil"  
i think you were better when sassy told you what to think..... at least you made some sense...  lol! lol! lol!

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 21:16

and you never have...pathetic.....

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun 24 May - 21:17

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
darknessss wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
well if it is faulty wiring , we can rewire them and cure being gay, well that must be good news for all those suffering gays....lol

so you clainm to have power equal to gods now do you...how arrogant



I claim, notice how i can spell claim, nothing just saying if it is faulty wiring perhaps man can find a way to rewire it and cure gays... good news , plenty in here say science is better than God, so science can cure gay... Smile

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Post by Guest on Sun 24 May - 21:23

Ben_Reilly wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
I claim, notice how i can spell claim, nothing just saying if it is faulty wiring perhaps man can find a way to rewire it and cure gays... good news , plenty in here say science is better than God, so science can cure gay... Smile

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Post by eddie on Sun 24 May - 21:40

Again, another thread that heralded good news and instead of asking interesting questions or debating the facts, a poster has to get all snidey about it.

Come on HF, it's good news is it not??
This will help children born with HIV too!

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