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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:16 am

Australia and New Zealand will soon have access to US-based online movie and TV subscription service Netflix.

The company has announced that internet-connected users in Australia and New Zealand will be able to subscribe to Netflix from March 2015, and they will gain access to a "curated selection" of movies and TV shows in high definition or even 4K where available.

At launch, Netflix has revealed that its offering will include original series such as Marco Polo and BoJack Horseman, and kids' titles such as DreamWorks Animation's All Hail King Julien. Users will also be connected to documentaries such as Virunga and Mission Blue, and stand-up comedy specials Uganda Be Kidding Me, Live from Chelsea Handler, and Jim Jefferies' Bare.

Netflix said the ANZ selection will further expand in 2015 to include other shows, including Bloodline, Marvel's Daredevil, Sense8, and Grace and Frankie.

The arrival of Netflix to Australia is expected to end the long-standing argument used by people for online copyright infringement about the lack of availability to such services. However, based on the launch list of shows and movies, Netflix Australia is unlikely to look like the Netflix that people have been looking for.

http://www.zdnet.com/netflix-confirms-arrival-date-for-australia-and-new-zealand-7000035932/

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:32 am

FUCK THEM TOO LITTLE TOO LATE!!!! STICKING WITH PIRATE BAY NEVER GIVING A CENT TO ANY US MEDIA PRODUCER EVER.



STUPID ---- DONT REALISE
WE ARE STEALING THE LOT
YOU CANT SELL IT TO US AT ALL ANY MORE
that ship has already sailed
Cheating thieving bastards can learn the hard fucking way
DONT FUCK WITH AUSSIES.

And THIS is getting Way more backlash than the refugee or Aboriginal thing, it coincides with the gov't trying to block pirate bay only to apparently discover that VPN exists Razz Razz Razz Razz

We need to Get rid of all trade deals with the USA we don't need them any more at all and all they do is try and rip us off. Embargo the US until it reigns in it's lobbyists, As long as the USA has a industry entirely based on corrupting politicians and democracy they should be Embargoed.

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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:59 am

Okay, please stop waffling and take a stance on this, Veya

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Post by eddie on Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:07 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Okay, please stop waffling and take a stance on this, Veya


Was just going to say something similar!

So. What do you really think, I mean, REALLY, Veya? Laughing

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Post by Cass on Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:34 pm

I see Veya on the crows nest of the Black Pearl swigging from a bottle of grog screaming avast ye scurvy netflix dogs Smile

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Post by Lone Wolf on Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:19 pm

Arrow      RUPPERT MURDOCH asked Aussie P.M. Tony Rarebit and his faithful sidekick Joe "the Hocker" last year to delay upgrading this country's Internet infrastructure to much faster speeds...

MANY online commentators have suggested that the main reason that the Murdoch-Reinhart controlled Aussie Tories are so eagerly kissing Uncle Ruppert's backside on this issue, is because Murdoch is scared by the competition that the internet streaming services will bring against his Foxtel pay-TV interests..

UNFORTUNATELY for Murdoch, Foxtel and the coalition gov't, "that ship has already sailed" ~ in true reactionary fashion, both Murdoch and his Aussie Tory Party stooges are trying to plug their imaginary commercial leaks, after already having "missed the boat", as Veya had stated earlier !


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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:14 pm

Cass wrote:I see Veya on the crows nest of the Black Pearl swigging from a bottle of grog screaming avast ye scurvy netflix dogs Smile

netflix is not actually the problem it is the business model that the entrainment industry is trying to impose which essentially includes artificial delays and price hikes because in the olden days they used to get more from places like Australia.
IF we could just get the same netfilx as the USA there would not be an issue but Rupert Murdoch owns the ONLY pat TV service down here and his business model means charging people that might just want to watch game of thrones a minimum of $80 a month and up to $120 pretty easily. Netflix has seen some improvement as you can now get a barebones package for about $30 (used to be $50)
(PS we can get the US netflix but not legally, the ultimate stupid law make it illegal fro someone to try and pay a fair price forcing them to pay an inflated price or nothing )

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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:29 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Cass wrote:I see Veya on the crows nest of the Black Pearl swigging from a bottle of grog screaming avast ye scurvy netflix dogs Smile

netflix is not actually the problem it is the business model that the entrainment industry is trying to impose which essentially includes artificial delays and price hikes because in the olden days they used to get more from places like Australia.
IF we could just get the same netfilx as the USA there would not be an issue but Rupert Murdoch owns the ONLY pat TV service down here and his business model means charging people that might just want to watch game of thrones a minimum of $80 a month and up to $120 pretty easily. Netflix has seen some improvement as you can now get a barebones package for about $30 (used to be $50)
(PS we can get the US netflix but not legally, the ultimate stupid law make it illegal fro someone to try and pay a fair price forcing them to pay an inflated price or nothing   )

Yikes, that's still a pretty expensive bare-bones package -- mine includes a disc through the mail (one at a time) which average to about two movies a week, plus unlimited streaming and comes to about $19.50 a month.

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:40 pm

Exactly... thieving bastards
(and bare bones is about 20 channels of reruns. no movies, sport or new releases. even the premiums here don't get disc in mail included)


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Post by Cass on Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:45 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:

netflix is not actually the problem it is the business model that the entrainment industry is trying to impose which essentially includes artificial delays and price hikes because in the olden days they used to get more from places like Australia.
IF we could just get the same netfilx as the USA there would not be an issue but Rupert Murdoch owns the ONLY pat TV service down here and his business model means charging people that might just want to watch game of thrones a minimum of $80 a month and up to $120 pretty easily. Netflix has seen some improvement as you can now get a barebones package for about $30 (used to be $50)
(PS we can get the US netflix but not legally, the ultimate stupid law make it illegal fro someone to try and pay a fair price forcing them to pay an inflated price or nothing   )

Yikes, that's still a pretty expensive bare-bones package -- mine includes a disc through the mail (one at a time) which average to about two movies a week, plus unlimited streaming and comes to about $19.50 a month.

we have the $8.99 a month package - unlimited streaming. we're good with it.

don't forget the Australian dollar is slightly more than the US but it still sounds very expensive.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:05 am

they charged the same when our dollar was at $1.10 or 88c...

Plus we already buy a lot of things with US dollars anyway. any company NOT trying to maintain artificial geographic barriers on the internet just let us pay the same as you pay in US dollars. As really if your selling a digital download where the person is buying from is irrelevant as the download costs fall on them anyway.

this is 100% scam to rip off people because we used to have to pay for transport and a premium for having a small market so they figure that they should be able to make 100% of that as extra profit now that such cost don't exist.
America forced us into free trade agreements but they only want them implemented where they make more money and have constantly tried to keep the old way when ever it is not to their advantage.
To which Aussies are saying 'Fuck off'

And Obviously the Corporation that Are Mainly trying to do this are ALL REPUBLICAN SUPPORTERS.

Like Is said Embargo is the solution we literally have no need to trade with the USA any more as we have better/fairer trading partners in China Japan Korea and India just to name a few. USA is not the number 1 economy any more so we all don't have to accept its shit and pretend to like it. Although men like Abbott continue to lick ass.

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Post by Cass on Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:52 am

remind me to never piss you off lol x

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we got stand up against the Media Barons

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:59 am

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/netflix-faces-battle-for-australia-viewers-who-stream-it-from-the-us/story-e6frfmyi-1227128087942

It’s not yet clear how Netflix will force those Australians using the American service to switch to a local version.

While the local Netflix might come close to matching the price for Australians streaming the US service, it will not be able to match it in content because of local distribution deals.

Netflix has already launched in the UK but aggrieved British TV fans have created websites to highlight the difference between the programming with the two versions of the streaming service.

On Netflix in the US you can watch TV shows such as House, Parks and Recreation, The West Wing, Mad Men and The Walking Dead and British movies such as Skyfall and The King’s Speech.

Those shows and movies are not available on the UK version.

The blog NetFlix UK vs USA shows the US Netflix service has about 9000 movies and shows in its library compared with just 3500 for the UK version.

See ripping off the UK too
we all need to get together and embargo the USA until it stops trying to enforce exclusive distribution contracts, all of them just become void (foxtel etc can wear the cost) since it has tried to rip off its fellow citizens there should be no Sympathy or compensation for it.

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Post by Cass on Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:31 am

veya_victaous wrote:http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/netflix-faces-battle-for-australia-viewers-who-stream-it-from-the-us/story-e6frfmyi-1227128087942

It’s not yet clear how Netflix will force those Australians using the American service to switch to a local version.
While the local Netflix might come close to matching the price for Australians streaming the US service, it will not be able to match it in content because of local distribution deals.
Netflix has already launched in the UK but aggrieved British TV fans have created websites to highlight the difference between the programming with the two versions of the streaming service.
On Netflix in the US you can watch TV shows such as House, Parks and Recreation, The West Wing, Mad Men and The Walking Dead and British movies such as Skyfall and The King’s Speech.
Those shows and movies are not available on the UK version.
The blog NetFlix UK vs USA shows the US Netflix service has about 9000 movies and shows in its library compared with just 3500 for the UK version.
See ripping off the UK too
we all need to get together and embargo the USA until it stops trying to enforce exclusive distribution contracts, all of them just become void (foxtel etc can wear the cost) since it has tried to rip off its fellow citizens there should be no Sympathy or compensation for it.

hey if you make them mess with my back series of Criminal Minds I will HUNT YOU DOWN......protest after I catch up there's a pet x

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Post by Lone Wolf on Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:50 am

Cass wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Yikes, that's still a pretty expensive bare-bones package -- mine includes a disc through the mail (one at a time) which average to about two movies a week, plus unlimited streaming and comes to about $19.50 a month.

we have the $8.99 a month package - unlimited streaming. we're good with it.

don't forget the Australian dollar is slightly more than the US but it still sounds very expensive.

Idea

THE $Aussie$ was 86.4 cents at the close this arvo' ...

THAT means that the current exchange rate is only around 15-17% of the markups..
THE smaller size of this market may be worth a little more, again..
25-30% markups might be justifiable ==> 100-120% though, is outright ('legalised') theft !

IN a lot of different market sectors, the Gov't often interferes by given that "captive" market to only a small number of operators == effectively creatig an artificial oligopoly. santa

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Post by nicko on Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:52 pm

The stuff on the tv is 80% crap, I think Cass might agree that a good book can't be beaten!
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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:23 pm

It may also be that Netflix is trying to get Australian customers to pitch in and help pay its bribes to Comcast, since net neutrality is Obamacare for the internet:

http://qz.com/256586/the-inside-story-of-how-netflix-came-to-pay-comcast-for-internet-traffic/

https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20141115/07454429157/ted-cruz-doubles-down-misunderstanding-internet-net-neutrality-as-republican-engineers-call-him-out-ignorance.shtml

The only two things I can say in Netflix's defense are 1) in the U.S. they provide a good deal and 2) they have a lot of overhead to pay and red tape to work around thanks to the big studios, their complicated exclusivity contracts and probably, their paranoia about pirating.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:14 pm

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yes Netfix is not actually the problem it is the big studios.

and if outside the US we start embargoing US media (or just making it so that it is not illegal to pirate) then the US gov't will be encouraged to pull the dinosaur media barons in line and let new entrepreneurs like Netfix come up.

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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:42 pm

veya_victaous wrote:@ben
yes Netfix is not actually the problem it is the big studios.

and if outside the US we start embargoing US media (or just making it so that it is not illegal to pirate) then the US gov't will be encouraged to pull the dinosaur media barons in line and let new entrepreneurs like Netfix come up.

I don't know that I could ever go along with the idea of legalizing piracy -- gone into that one before -- but there's no need for the crackdowns and ridiculous punishment we see today. In the U.S. you can easily get punished way more for downloading a movie than for going 100 mph through a school zone.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:06 pm

the world will be a better place, free exchange of ideas.
artist can still preform and make money through shows (like they traditionally did before recording technology).
they already make money selling advertisements in the media they create so it is not like they are not making money and a vast amount of cost is to actors that really should not being getting 100,000 let alone over a million. when you look at movies vast sums as spent 'promoting' rather than letting the art stand for itself.

Any true artist that society should support in the creation of their art has no problem with it as they will create the art either way. and Fans will fund them to create more art, example is Amanda Palmer's fully crowd funded album.

I hardly even watch movies or TV so personally a moot point. most of the music I listen to is given away for free already.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:28 pm

http://www.buzzfeed.com/reggieugwu/rhapsody-cfo-why-free-streaming-is-wrong-for-music

See even the CFO is basically admitting that it is all about keeping the million dollar rort going.

Ultimately there is no good reason why they need to charge like they do. they have had a decade to be reasonable and they haven't so it is time for a revolution which cannot stop until all the dinosaur media moguls are gone as a lesson to other industries.

Industry wanted to take control from gov't well they can take the wraith too.

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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:28 pm

I think I agree with you mostly, at least. The scenario I'd put to you is, take that tank game you made. How would you react if you saw a video arcade that had machines running that exact same game, and that was charging people to play?

This is a worst-case scenario, though.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:43 pm

http://www.thevine.com.au/entertainment/tv/you-can-watch-sarah-silvermans-new-show-right-now-for-5-20141120-290379/?utm_source=thevine&utm_medium=featured-rotator&utm_campaign=internal-testing
Following her buddy Louis CK's lead, you can download Sarah Silverman's new variety show for a fiver.

The first 45-minute episode of Silverman's Rubberhead is available from Vimeo, and features guest appearances from John C. Reilly, Seth Rogen, and loads of others.

Sarah Silverman understands Media needs a reformation and largely that is the removal of the 'hangers on' a.k.a the Studios themselves

So Does Louis CK
"Please bear in mind that I am not a company or a corporation. I'm just some guy. I paid for the production and posting of this video with my own money. I would like to be able to post more material to the fans in this way, which makes it cheaper for the buyer and more pleasant for me. So, please help me keep this being a good idea. I can't stop you from torrenting; all I can do is politely ask you to pay your five little dollars, enjoy the show, and let other people find it in the same way."

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:55 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:I think I agree with you mostly, at least. The scenario I'd put to you is, take that tank game you made. How would you react if you saw a video arcade that had machines running that exact same game, and that was charging people to play?

This is a worst-case scenario, though.

Actually that is not only free to play i put code sections up on the Forums for the Dev kit I used so others could use some of my 'improved' formulas. there is heaps of stuff available for free to other people that want to try and make a game on the forums. the Dev kit i used is largely community based meaning most stuff is submitted by other people for free Wink

I don't see the problem if the Arcade is like an old school arcade as you're paying for the venue. and if I make it available for free or a fair low cost it is hard for someone else to sell and not worth the effort to pirate.

further to the example I could charge $1 for a copy IF the game was good enough to sell a million copies i still made a lot of money. the thing is Triple AAA titles charging $80 for the game then using $40 to advertise the game... the whole system is broken as now literally as much or more is spent on 'marketing' rather than making leaving us with worse products for greater cost.




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