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Post by Guest on Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:59 pm

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80,000 Sikhs fought and died for Britain in the two world wars. Over 400,000 Muslims fought for King and Empire in The Great War alone. They came from present-day Bangladesh, India, and Pakistan. Sikhs and Muslims, they laid down their lives fighting side by side against a common foe.
A Remembrance and Celebration event will be held on Sunday 22 Oct to commemorate soldiers from Africa, the Caribbean, and the Indian Subcontinent who fought in the First World War. The event will be hosted by the Oxford Inventory of the African Mind at the New Testament Church of God, in Between Towns Road, starting at 6 pm.
People of these backgrounds who have stories from their family helping in past conflicts are still needed.
“It’s a good idea. It will be good to remember what people have done in the past. There’s a lot of people that come here and want to know about the Sikhs and who we are and what we did”, said Amrik Shergill, the chairman of London Road’s Sikh gurdwara. “It’s nice to get all the community together. We should all work together like what happened in the past.”

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/gave-lives.html

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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:57 am

nicko wrote:Yanks really don't understand British humour.

And nobody appreciates Canadian humor ...


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I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill



My most brilliant achievement was my ability to be able to persuade my wife to marry me.
Winston Churchill


Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
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If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
Winston Churchill

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:36 am

If you set out to be liked, you would be prepared to compromise on anything at any time, and you would achieve nothing.
Margaret Thatcher

If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman.
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To wear your heart on your sleeve isn't a very good plan; you should wear it inside, where it functions best.
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Any woman who understands the problems of running a home will be nearer to understanding the problems of running a country.
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Democratic nations must try to find ways to starve the terrorist and the hijacker of the oxygen of publicity on which they depend.
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If my critics saw me walking over the Thames they would say it was because I couldn't swim.
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The spirit of envy can destroy; it can never build.
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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:34 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
nicko wrote:Sorry, I don't understand American humour!!

Pip pip old bean, I'll be happy to oblige. It seems we Colonials once had a president by the name of Lincoln who, poor chap, was assassinated at Ford's Theatre. Being that he had a wife, one Mary Todd Lincoln, we Yanks find this hypothetical question to the dear widow to be a rather droll display of gallows humor, as it were ...

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Not always gallows humour. Sometimes meant to say missing the point...out of the conversation, as it were...

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:42 pm

Brasidas wrote:If you set out to be liked, you would be prepared to compromise on anything at any time, and you would achieve nothing.
Margaret Thatcher

If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman.
Margaret Thatcher

To wear your heart on your sleeve isn't a very good plan; you should wear it inside, where it functions best.
Margaret Thatcher

Any woman who understands the problems of running a home will be nearer to understanding the problems of running a country.
Margaret Thatcher

Democratic nations must try to find ways to starve the terrorist and the hijacker of the oxygen of publicity on which they depend.
Margaret Thatcher

If my critics saw me walking over the Thames they would say it was because I couldn't swim.
Margaret Thatcher

The spirit of envy can destroy; it can never build.
Margaret Thatcher

Not to be critical, but you offer the opportunity in your two posts: Look at how quick and pithy Churchill's quips are.  Contrast them with the laborious and lumbering (attempted) logic of Lady Maggie.

Churchill wrote:...drunk/ugly; brilliant/marry me; important point/whack
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Maggie wrote:...liked/compromise/achieve nothing—still no point; Democratic nations/terrorists/oxygen…publicity/depends—elusive point.

But I like that last one.

Still, Churchill's mind was his greatest asset.


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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:44 pm

I think hers are very subtle, something you may not understand I guess.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:53 pm

See my post.

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:55 pm

Hence you failed to see the subtlety, like I said.

Look closer, as you are taking the wrong line and points when looking at them..

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:05 pm

Brasidas wrote:Hence you failed to see the subtlety, like I said.

Look closer, as you are taking the wrong line and points when looking at them..

What points? That's what I'm saying...Maggie doesn't communicate like Churchill.

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:08 pm

Okay here is why you cannot see, as what do you see in this sentence?


If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:25 pm

Brasidas wrote:Okay here is why you cannot see, as what do you see in this sentence?

If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman.

That I agree with, as I said in no uncertain terms on that thread about whatever...but we were discussing how good women are at making quick life and death decisions.

Here, in the comparison between Churchill and Lady Maggie, I'm admiring Churchill's communication skills.  And...it may have something to do with his drinking.  That's perhaps why FDR loved him and Elanor hated him.  Kearns Goodwin, No Ordinary Times.

Maybe his love of drunks is why Franklin and Elanor lived different lives.  Razz

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:33 pm

lol that did make me laugh your last point and agree Churchill has great communication skills, though I think hers are far more subtle.
I actually see two subtle points here.

Reliability and trust.

Can you see why?

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:40 pm

Brasidas wrote:lol that did make me laugh your last point and agree Churchill has great communication skills, though I think hers are far more subtle.
I actually see two subtle points here.

Reliability and trust.

Can you see why?

Too abstruse...elaborate pls.

Drunks are winners?  Razz I mean, Churchill did, in the end, prevail.

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:42 pm

She is making the point on reliability and who we can trust, where the point is that generally you can rely and trust a woman to get things done. You cannot say the same for men, as they are easily distracted.

Subtle.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:59 pm

Oh, you mean the analogy on homemaking.

I like the one about walking across the Themes.

I don' know...to me, Churchill was sharp as a whip crack. Guess it's the timing that it evokes in the listener...in other words, it doesn't just settle upon you, it 'snaps' over you.

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:03 pm

I know Churchill was as sharp as a whip, my point is where Magge is different is she is so much better at being subtle, thus each have their own strengths in how they speak.
I agree though, you like me by far prefer the upfront, no holds bar approach when speaking, say it how it is.

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:26 pm

NAH,,,Churchill was the man for the time

Maggie was just another nasty tory.....

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:27 pm

But had far bigger balls than you Victor lol


A woman who opened door ways, which sadly since has not been replicated.

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:49 pm

Brasidas wrote:But had far bigger balls than you Victor lol


A woman who opened door ways, which sadly since has not been replicated.
and closed our heavy industry

reulting in todays mess...

THEN....we subsidised employers directly and they paid decent wages
NOW we subsidise them indirectly to allow them to pay shite wages.....

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Post by Irn Bru on Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:10 am

Didge old bean. So now that the commemorations for those who fell in WWI are over and you have seen how many brave men fell from all the nations would you like to answer the question I posed to you to come up with the evidence that....

Traitors normally tend to be Scots.

You failed to answer that question in your last reply disguising and avoiding giving one under a smokescreen of nonsense to avoid doing so.

You have had plenty of time to try and find it so, have you got it?


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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:13 am

Hello Irn, how are you?

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Post by Irn Bru on Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:15 am

Brasidas wrote:Hello Irn, how are you?

I'm fine Didge - and you?

Have you got it - the evidence?

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:16 am

I am very well Irn, thanks for asking.

Have no idea why you are dragging this up again, some of us moved on, you still pissed at this?

Move along mate

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Post by Irn Bru on Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:19 am

Brasidas wrote:I am very well Irn, thanks for asking.

Have no idea why you are dragging this up again, some of us moved on, you still pissed at this?

Move along mate

When it comes to making claims that Traitors normally tend to be Scots that has to be challenged. Unlike you I've been busy but I hadn't forgot what you said.

So, you don't have it then - the evidence that is?

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:24 am

Good for you that you want to go over this, good luck

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:27 am

I will give you some help to understand my views Irn. I do not believe in boundaries on this planet that are imaginary walls and there are no different races, we are all one. That is all you need to know.

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Post by Irn Bru on Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:31 am

Brasidas wrote:I will give you some help to understand my views Irn. I do not believe in boundaries on this planet that are imaginary walls and there are no different races, we are all one. That is all you need to know.

So you don't have any evidence that Traitors normally tend to be Scots after all.

Thought as much Didge and it was nothing more than an angry rant.

I'm happy with that so on that score I'll bid you a very goodnight as I have a busy day tomorrow and I trust you do as well.

Sleep tight.

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:35 am

Again Irn, I do not believe in boundaries, what does that tell you?

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