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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:01 am

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/wanted-for-crimes-against-humanity-the-daily-telegraph-turns-the-tables-on-terrorist-mohamed-elomar/story-fnii5s3x-1227023640607

But Dr Jamal Rifi, who defiantly stared down the threat and continued to label the radicals “demented lunatics” yesterday, has vowed not to be silenced.

Dr Rifi said Sharrouf and Elomar were “demented lunatics” trying to bully others into silence: “What they are doing now in the name of Islam has been ­opposed by Muslims and that is why they are hitting out.”

In solidarity with the courageous Dr Rifi, The Daily Telegraph is turning the tables on the terrorist by issuing our own “wanted’’ call on Elomar.

If you have any information on the exact location of Elomar, phone the National Security Hotline on 1800 123 400.

Better still, provide the co-ordinates of his location so we can pass them on to international authorities.

Dr Rifi, a finalist in the 2009 NSW Local Hero awards and founding member of Australian Muslim Doctors Against Violence, said last night: “Even the Grand Mufti of Australia has come out strongly against them. Are they going to try to bully everyone who speaks out?”

NSW Communities Minister Victor Dominello said: “Dr Rifi is to be commended for speaking out against these vile acts.

“His comments reflect the abhorrence we all share towards the abuse of Australian children being forced to partake in barbaric acts in a ­foreign war.”

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:02 am

See Muslims Do speak out but RACIST idiots that try and paint them all with the same brush make it Harder for the good voice to be heard.

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Post by eddie on Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:01 am

veya_victaous wrote:See Muslims Do speak out but RACIST idiots that try and paint them all with the same brush make it Harder for the good voice to be heard.

I've been arguing with people on FB last night dye to their ridiculous claims that all we can do is deport EVERY SINGLE Muslim!!  Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:09 am

Good for him and the majority are like him, not only in Australia, but here as well.

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Post by The Puzzler on Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:18 pm

Moderate Muslims here in Britain, and in Australia should literally fight the extremists, with the help of Western governments. Speaking out is great but unfortunately the tongue isn't mightier than the sword.
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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:53 pm

Don't be so fucking stupid.

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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:40 pm

eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:See Muslims Do speak out but RACIST idiots that try and paint them all with the same brush make it Harder for the good voice to be heard.

I've been arguing with people on FB last night dye to their ridiculous claims that all we can do is deport EVERY SINGLE Muslim!!   Rolling Eyes 

unfortunately there is a degree of truth in what they say,
sadly for everyone the Muslim extremeist does not come with "terrorist" engraved on his/her forehead
add to that tthe fact that a sizeable but unknown proportion of apparantly "reasonable" Muslims, whilst not actively extremeist are likely to have sympathy with those that are
add to that the fact that many many Muslims, althought entirely peaceful and settled, dislike "western values" and western culture immensely

then we have a problem........

compounding that is the fact that we are ruled from westminster by the most spineless, ball-less and corrupt bunch of tossers going.

so...how DO YOU KNOW, with a reasonable degree of certainty, that that bloke in his pyjamas walking down the high street is NOT about to hurl himself into eternity with tyhe help of 20KG of semtex, along with you and everyone else around????

How can you make certain it wont happen????

I have a certain sympathy with the idea that to MAKE CERTAIN ....we remove the the likeliest protagonists.....and if we cant tell who they are ...then remove them all...

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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:45 pm

The Puzzler wrote:Moderate Muslims here in Britain, and in Australia should literally fight the extremists, with the help of Western governments. Speaking out is great but unfortunately the tongue isn't mightier than the sword.

Again there is sense in this, but unfortunately the "moderate Muslim " is a big scaredy cat, like 90% of the non Muslim population AND of course the pathetic so called "leadership" would hammer down on them just the same as it would anyone else...

our beloved police would simply round up the "fighting moderates"and have em demonised....our courts would hammer them, despite the fact they are fighting a "good fight"

sadly "the system" would sooner we all knelt in fealty to ISIS than have any "troubles"...appearance is everything...

belive me if ISIS knocked on our doors tomorrow cammergoon and everyone else "up there " would be on holiday.....and we would be made to roll over and take it.....

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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:11 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
The Puzzler wrote:Moderate Muslims here in Britain, and in Australia should literally fight the extremists, with the help of Western governments. Speaking out is great but unfortunately the tongue isn't mightier than the sword.

Again there is sense in this, but unfortunately the "moderate Muslim " is a big scaredy cat, like 90% of the non Muslim population AND of course the pathetic so called "leadership" would hammer down on them just the same as it would anyone else...

our beloved police would simply round up the "fighting moderates"and have em demonised....our courts would hammer them, despite the fact they are fighting a "good fight"

sadly "the system" would sooner we all knelt in fealty to ISIS than have any "troubles"...appearance is everything...

belive me if ISIS knocked on our doors tomorrow cammergoon and everyone else "up there " would be on holiday.....and we would be made to roll over and take it.....


There is no such thing as moderate Muslims.
There is conservative, Liberal, practicing, radical, extremist etc, which is the same within any faith, the religion is also defined by the political stance of the individual, as nobody says moderate Jew or Christian.
As to your point on Cameron rolling over, that is just more political nonsense, viewed by more you the individual yourself on that person or party.
It is an interesting point though how extremist Muslims are able to recruit people to their cause to fight, where the same is not replicated to fight against them, though, the Kurds are proving to being very united in doing so. If ethnic and religious divisions can be put to one side, then ISIS would be easily defeated.

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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:13 pm

Didge wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:

Again there is sense in this, but unfortunately the "moderate Muslim " is a big scaredy cat, like 90% of the non Muslim population AND of course the pathetic so called "leadership" would hammer down on them just the same as it would anyone else...

our beloved police would simply round up the "fighting moderates"and have em demonised....our courts would hammer them, despite the fact they are fighting a "good fight"

sadly "the system" would sooner we all knelt in fealty to ISIS than have any "troubles"...appearance is everything...

belive me if ISIS knocked on our doors tomorrow cammergoon and everyone else "up there " would be on holiday.....and we would be made to roll over and take it.....


There is no such thing as moderate Muslims.
There is conservative, Liberal, practicing, radical, extremist etc, which is the same within any faith, the religion is also defined by the political stance of the individual, as nobody says moderate Jew or Christian.

isnt that just playing with meanings didge??? just to muddy the waters so to speak...lets face it in the context of ISIS and "islamic war" conservative liberal practicing or devout really matters not at all....The political stance is more appropos of course, especially since unlike christianity NOW..Islam is a "wholey complete" religious AND political entity.

moreover there are extreme and moderate christians/jews/whatever...I would classify for instance these "westborough " types as "extreme" but most "mainline christians" as moderate.


As to your point on Cameron rolling over, that is just more political nonsense, viewed by more you the individual yourself on that person or party.

who's interests do you think that useless bunch in westminster serve??? (of all political shades)...certainly not yours or mine..except when they coincide with thiers....

It is an interesting point though how extremist Muslims are able to recruit people to their cause to fight, where the same is not replicated to fight against them, though, the Kurds are proving to being very united in doing so. If ethnic and religious divisions can be put to one side, then ISIS would be easily defeated.

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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:42 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:See Muslims Do speak out but RACIST idiots that try and paint them all with the same brush make it Harder for the good voice to be heard.

I've been arguing with people on FB last night dye to their ridiculous claims that all we can do is deport EVERY SINGLE Muslim!!   Rolling Eyes 

unfortunately there is a degree of truth in what they say,
sadly for everyone the Muslim extremeist does not come with "terrorist" engraved on his/her forehead
add to that tthe fact that a sizeable but unknown proportion of apparantly "reasonable" Muslims, whilst not actively extremeist are likely to have sympathy with those that are
add to that the fact that many many Muslims, althought entirely peaceful and settled, dislike "western values" and western culture immensely Not really they some don't like some bits but more it is they don't like when they cant do some thing they think they should, it can be worked through but it is a case of BOTh side need to work together to work out what is an isn't acceptable.. the problem is when you have the like of BigAndy and Co that complain about them praying which is fine, doesn't hurt anyone... Generally (beside the Fundies which any religion gets) they agree with the western secular values, rule of law, non-violence etc.
It's not about giving up freedoms but expanding upon them to allow for the varying cultural desires


then we have a problem........

compounding that is the fact that we are ruled from westminster by the most spineless, ball-less and corrupt bunch of tossers going. TRUE  Wink 

so...how DO YOU KNOW, with a reasonable degree of certainty, that that bloke in his pyjamas walking down the high street is NOT about to hurl himself into eternity with the help of 20KG of semtex, along with you and everyone else around???? how do you know that about ANYONE

How can you make certain it wont happen???? How can you make certain a gun owner wont shoot someone?  Rolling Eyes  exact same argument can be used to take away your rights to ANY firearms

I have a certain sympathy with the idea that to MAKE CERTAIN ....we remove the the likeliest protagonists.....and if we cant tell who they are ...then remove them all...

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Post by Guest on Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:49 am

victorisnotamused wrote:
Didge wrote:


There is no such thing as moderate Muslims.
There is conservative, Liberal, practicing, radical, extremist etc, which is the same within any faith, the religion is also defined by the political stance of the individual, as nobody says moderate Jew or Christian.

isnt that just playing with meanings didge??? just to muddy the waters so to speak...lets face it in the context of ISIS and "islamic war"  conservative liberal practicing or devout really matters not at all....The political stance is more appropos of course, especially since unlike christianity NOW..Islam is a "wholey complete" religious AND political entity.

moreover there are extreme and moderate christians/jews/whatever...I would classify for instance these "westborough " types as "extreme" but most "mainline christians" as moderate.


As to your point on Cameron rolling over, that is just more political nonsense, viewed by more you the individual yourself on that person or party.

who's interests do you think that useless bunch in westminster serve??? (of all political shades)...certainly not yours or mine..except when they coincide with thiers....

It is an interesting point though how extremist Muslims are able to recruit people to their cause to fight, where the same is not replicated to fight against them, though, the Kurds are proving to being very united in doing so. If ethnic and religious divisions can be put to one side, then ISIS would be easily defeated.


There is no play on words, like any people of religion they have political view, as do ISIS, which is extreme, the reality is the word moderation is like saying a person who does not follow their faith literally, when many people adhere to their faith, they practice their faith. You see in America and in many Muslim countries conservative views and in some minority Muslim countries radical, to ISIS which is extreme all political based.
There are many extreme Christians in America, from Army of God to Dominionism, which you will find with many Evangelical Christian groups, all again political where again a literal belief is where the problem is found.
Christianity for centuries was a political force but this power has rescinded to the point of near non-existence in the west

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Post by Lone Wolf on Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:55 pm

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ONLY $1,000  !!!

Some people really DO place a low value on human life these days..


THOUGH, I could also point out here that $1,000 would be just under four weeks dole payments
(i.e. unemployment benefits..) for that particular 'Jihadist'.    Idea

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