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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:55 am

Besides T-rex's awesome pants this is also proves the evolution of feather through MULTIPLE species...

I.E. puts all of HF and other Christian Fundamentalists notion of 'cant prove' in the Rubbish heap of stupid things people said before being proven DEFINITIVELY WRONG
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http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/07/02/the-urvogels-old-new-clothes/

Over the years, a dozen fossils of archaeopteryx - the feathered dinosaur with wings and teeth that is pretty close to being the ancestor of modern birds - have been found, and a recent finding shows that as well as feathers for flying, the archaeopteryx also had "hipster feather pants"; it had feathers all over its legs in other words. This, according to Switek, is further proof that a lineage of dinosaurs (the one including velociraptor and T-Rex) had feathers long before some of those feathers became useful for flying. It remains to be seen whether the velociraptors in the upcoming Jurassic Park reboot Jurassic World are going to have hipster feather pants. But they damn well should.

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this new specimen adds a little more perspective on what kinds of feathers Archaeopteryx had and the fact that plumage for display and insulation evolved long before feathers for flight.

The feathers on the neck and body of the 11th Archaeopteryx are pennaceous, meaning that they have a central shaft or quill. The bird’s leg feathers have central vanes, too, and while they’re consistently symmetrical in shape they decrease in size from the top of the leg towards the ankle. And, for the first time, paleontologists can see the very tip of the Archaeopteryx tail, which, in life, bore elongated feathers that might have played some aerodynamic role (that is, if Archaeopteryx actually flew, which paleontologists continue to debate).

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:35 am

I think the question we should all be asking is, why did Satan put those fossils there?

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:41 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:I think the question we should all be asking is, why did Satan put those fossils there?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:06 am

It makes me wonder about other things that might have evolved several times -- for example, we know the dorsal fin evolved completely distinctly in mammals and in fish.

And (relatively) high intellect has evolved both in mammals and birds ... flight has evolved in birds, reptiles, mammals and insects ... I'm hoping someday something evolves that can phase through walls like Kitty Pryde Smile

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Post by stardesk on Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:16 am

Hi Ben. I've mentioned several times in the past about Archaeopteryx and it's evolving feathers, also the Baleen whale's legs and feet inside its flippers. There are quite a few transitional fossils and yet, would you believe it, (yes you would,) our Creationist members still deny there were any transitions. Talk about living in a world of denial.

What puzzles me is, and the Bible doesn't explain, why did dear old Pater God create many species of dinosaurs, and then allow them to be eliminated? Er...did he realise he'd made a mistake? If so he wasn't very clever was he. Another repetetive comment they like to make in a contradictive manner is humans evolving from primates. I don't know how many times I've told them we did not evolve from them, but all primates and Homo Sapiens had the same ancestral beginnings, but then there was a split, primates going one way, we in another direction. I've often asked them do they accept that Neanderthals existed, but never get a positive answer. Surely as there are many variations in a species, why not humans?

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:34 am

lol have you still got evolution as your religion...

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Post by stardesk on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:07 pm

Hi Dibley or HF (I presume). How are you?

At least my beliefs, not religion, are based on proven facts and knowledge, solid physical evidence, analysed by many scientists all over the world. Whereas religious belief and faith are based on what goes on in a person's mind, a choice between believing or not in a god. It is a mental condition which, unlike evolution, is not based on solid fact.
The proof of it being a mental/mind option is, like myself, many people leave their religion after opening their minds to other possibilities, and of course there are those unbelievers who do turn to God. So you see, and again, it is a personal decision to believe or not believe. Take your choice. I'm quite happy in my belief in proved evolution.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:09 pm

he's flounced Star....

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:09 pm

stardesk wrote:Hi Ben. I've mentioned several times in the past about Archaeopteryx and it's evolving feathers, also the Baleen whale's legs and feet inside its flippers. There are quite a few transitional fossils and yet, would you believe it,  (yes you would,) our Creationist members still deny there were any transitions. Talk about living in a world of denial.

What puzzles me is, and the Bible doesn't explain, why did dear old Pater God create many species of dinosaurs, and then allow them to be eliminated? Er...did he realise he'd made a mistake? If so he wasn't very clever was he. Another repetetive comment they like to make in a contradictive manner is humans evolving from primates. I don't know how many times I've told them we did not evolve from them, but all primates and Homo Sapiens had the same ancestral beginnings, but then there was a split, primates going one way, we in another direction. I've often asked them do they accept that Neanderthals existed, but never get a positive answer. Surely as there are many variations in a species, why not humans?

There are even some who believe that Genesis conceals a whole subplot about how Satan created the dinosaurs and then God wiped them out! Seems like an awful lot of ret-conning has to be done to make these things make any sense in light of the facts we have today Smile

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:10 pm

veya_victaous wrote:Besides T-rex's awesome pants this is also proves the evolution of feather through MULTIPLE species...

I.E. puts all of HF and other Christian Fundamentalists notion of 'cant prove' in the Rubbish heap of stupid things people said before being proven DEFINITIVELY WRONG
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http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/07/02/the-urvogels-old-new-clothes/

Over the years, a dozen fossils of archaeopteryx - the feathered dinosaur with wings and teeth that is pretty close to being the ancestor of modern birds - have been found, and a recent finding shows that as well as feathers for flying, the archaeopteryx also had "hipster feather pants"; it had feathers all over its legs in other words. This, according to Switek, is further proof that a lineage of dinosaurs (the one including velociraptor and T-Rex) had feathers long before some of those feathers became useful for flying. It remains to be seen whether the velociraptors in the upcoming Jurassic Park reboot Jurassic World are going to have hipster feather pants. But they damn well should.

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this new specimen adds a little more perspective on what kinds of feathers Archaeopteryx had and the fact that plumage for display and insulation evolved long before feathers for flight.

The feathers on the neck and body of the 11th Archaeopteryx are pennaceous, meaning that they have a central shaft or quill. The bird’s leg feathers have central vanes, too, and while they’re consistently symmetrical in shape they decrease in size from the top of the leg towards the ankle. And, for the first time, paleontologists can see the very tip of the Archaeopteryx tail, which, in life, bore elongated feathers that might have played some aerodynamic role (that is, if Archaeopteryx actually flew, which paleontologists continue to debate).


pink pants Oh gosh  Smile 

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:29 pm

Hey KD, went to see 20th Century Boy, the Marc Bolan Story at the Theatre, could have been a T Rex concert, and they sung that.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:35 pm

"Evidence Supports it: T-rex had Feather pants "


I bet that tickled his fancy



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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:36 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:"Evidence Supports it: T-rex had Feather pants "


I bet that tickled his fancy



Bit like your beard  Wink 

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Post by stardesk on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:45 pm

Hi Ben. Indeed they do twist and turn and try to give a different interpretation to justify their beliefs. But surely, they should accept what is acually written in their holy book.

I love talking to Witnesses when they knock on my door. I've put to them many facts about this world but oh dear, how they try to justify it is really quite comical. Such as natural disasters which kill thousands of people. 'Oh that's Satans fault,' they tell me. Laugh? I nearly peed myself.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:51 pm

stardesk wrote:Hi Ben. Indeed they do twist and turn and try to give a different interpretation to justify their beliefs. But surely, they should accept what is acually written in their holy book.

I love talking to Witnesses when they knock on my door. I've put to them many facts about this world but oh dear, how they try to justify it is really quite comical. Such as natural disasters which kill thousands of people. 'Oh that's Satans fault,' they tell me. Laugh? I nearly peed myself.

Couldn't help myself the other day, had a vicar, who was rather nice and quite open minded come round, and his little helper, older lady. Turns out she was a creationist and started talking about it. Her jaw hit the floor when I said 'surely nobody is as ignorant as that in this day and age'. The Vicar and I had a great talk about Paganism. Victor made me a Green Man that is now attached to my front door. Funnily enough the Witnesses walk up to the door and turn away now lol

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:51 pm

Sassy wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:"Evidence Supports it: T-rex had Feather pants "


I bet that tickled his fancy



Bit like your beard  Wink 

I'll have you know my beard is NOT 100 million years old....(nor is the rest of me)

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:56 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:
Sassy wrote:

Bit like your beard  Wink 

I'll have you know my beard is NOT 100 million years old....(nor is the rest of me)

I was referring to tickling a fancy, not the age  ::D:: 

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Post by stardesk on Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:45 pm

Plate Tectonics - Pangaea Landmass

What we haven’t covered to bolster our argument of evolution versus creation is the Earth as it was about 300 million years ago. It was one vast landmass which has been named as Pangaea. About 200 million years ago it began to split and divide and, over many eons, the continents eventually formed into what we recognise today. During that transformation period there would have been life-forms, though possibly very primitive, such as viruses and single-celled life. As the continents drifted apart whatever life there was, would have found itself isolated and, from there on, according to the latitudes and climates, changes and adaptations occurred. Thus, eventually, evolving into the dinosaur ages and of course, what we have today.
It would be interesting to know how Creationists can justify Pangaea and continental drift etc.


Plate Tectonics
Is the study of the lithosphere, the outer portion of the earth consisting of the crust and part of the upper mantle. The lithosphere is divided into about a dozen large plates which move and interact with one another to create earthquakes, mountain ranges, volcanic activity, ocean trenches and many other features. Continents and ocean basis are moved and changed in shape as a result of these plate movements.

A large super continent, known as Pangaea was fragmented into several pieces, each being part of a mobile plate of the lithosphere. These pieces were to become Earth's current continents.

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Post by stardesk on Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:47 pm

'No reply,' was the reply. Don't be shy folks, let's hear your side of the story.

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Post by stardesk on Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:46 pm

3 days later and still no reply. Oh well, back to watching the same old repeats on the telly.

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:42 pm

stardesk wrote:3 days later and still no reply. Oh well, back to watching the same old repeats on the telly.

I think the Creationists have left the building.

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Post by stardesk on Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:12 pm

Hi Veya. I think they must have done, unable to put forward a logical counter arguement.

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:10 pm

well the 'team rocket' of the Christian movement have deleted their accounts


and Raggs and other Christians on the site are still accepting of science so I actually think pretty much every one on the board agrees..  cheers  cheers  cheers  cheers yay education works  study 

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Post by stardesk on Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:05 am

Good morning Veya. I've yet to see any of our Creationist opponents put forward a logical and factual counter arguement. I don't believe they can, for evolution is based on observable facts, whereas with religion and creation it is based on primitive and archaic beliefs when nothing was known of the natural world and its long and vast history.
As you said, 'education works.' It certainly does for open-minded people.

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