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Re: Wonder who sent me this PM?

Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Tue May 20, 2014 7:56 am

By the way, the ---- word is the banned term here that starts with a "C" and is the lovely Brit term for vagina

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Post by eddie on Tue May 20, 2014 8:10 am

So who sent it then?

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Tue May 20, 2014 8:12 am

eddie wrote:So who  sent it then?

Oh, I know it was Phil. He's left again; see The Basement for full details Smile

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Post by Guest on Tue May 20, 2014 8:36 am

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[CONTACT] YANKEE DOODDLE ----
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lol

Sender e-mail address: yankee_doodle-----@yahoo.co.uk

You spelled "doodle" wrong ...

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Tue May 20, 2014 8:41 am

Nems wrote:
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[CONTACT] YANKEE DOODDLE ----
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lol

Sender e-mail address: yankee_doodle-----@yahoo.co.uk

You spelled "doodle" wrong ...

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Your fault he left I take it!

Yes, I've thought about making a collection of the insults he's leveled me -- that's just the kind of bastard that I am. I'm the c-word, the b-word, a coward, a right-wing appeaser, a twat and now my favorite, a Yankee DooDDle c-word! There are probably more, I should make badges ...

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Post by FluffyBunny on Tue May 20, 2014 9:45 am

Ben can I ask is Phil banned from here or can he post in the basement and how long will he remain there?

EDIT I see he has left,sorry but is this because you restricted him to the basement?


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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 9:46 am

FluffyBunny wrote:Ben can I ask is Phil banned from here or can he post in the basement and how long will he remain there?


His account has been deleted.

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Post by FluffyBunny on Tue May 20, 2014 9:47 am

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FluffyBunny wrote:Ben can I ask is Phil banned from here or can he post in the basement and how long will he remain there?


His account has been deleted.

Right.

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Tue May 20, 2014 9:49 am

Sorry, just saw these responses. He was sent to the basement; I was going to lift that tomorrow morning but he apparently had had enough of my shit.

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Post by FluffyBunny on Tue May 20, 2014 9:51 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Sorry, just saw these responses. He was sent to the basement; I was going to lift that tomorrow morning but he apparently had had enough of my shit.

He appreciates posting here alot,I think he will return when you lift his confinement to the basis  Smile 

Thanks for info Ben x

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 9:59 am

Does he understand why his post which started all this was out of order though?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:03 am

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Ben_Reilly wrote:Sorry, just saw these responses. He was sent to the basement; I was going to lift that tomorrow morning but he apparently had had enough of my shit.

He appreciates posting here alot,I think he will return when you lift his confinement to the basis  Smile 

Thanks for info Ben x

You say that as if he would be doing everyone a favour if he returned.


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Post by harrymuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:10 am

Fluffybunny hasn't seen the Phil antics over these so many years. Rolling Eyes 

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Post by harvesmom on Tue May 20, 2014 10:12 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Sorry, just saw these responses. He was sent to the basement; I was going to lift that tomorrow morning but he apparently had had enough of my shit.

Well I'd say about 90 percent of the forum has had just about enough of his shit. Its one thing name calling but he crossed the line with that post yesterday. I hope he doesn't bother coming back.
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Post by Guest on Tue May 20, 2014 10:16 am

it's a balancing act though really, i know phil and others can be "difficult" but nobody wants to be treat like an idiot or a child, well don't act like one is an obvious reply and yes that is true but phil does take a lot of stick and let's face it people do not let feuds go on forums...

I do think the basement ban is always likely to result in the poster leaving...

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Tue May 20, 2014 10:26 am

Raggamuffin wrote:Does he understand why his post which started all this was out of order though?

Who among us can claim to understand the mind of Phil? Smile

I always figured that if you stood for some kind of cause, you should behave well as to not make others think less of your cause. But hell, I only got that from the U.S. civil rights movement, which decided to make Rosa Parks their symbol because nobody could find any dirt on her.

For me, when I act like an asshole, I at least try to make it clear that my assholery is not indicative of all Texas Democrats -- just for an example. Smile

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Tue May 20, 2014 10:27 am

Should add in all seriousness, I did address his post in the thread in which he posted it. It was to no avail. But then, I might have been a bit combative in how I addressed it ...

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Post by Guest on Tue May 20, 2014 10:27 am

I wonder how many posters would be so laid back about being put in the basement ?

It's fine saying he deserves it because of this or that ,but it is the same as when Ben set the forum for islam and muslim to show up as ''hello i am very stupid''
Everyone thought it was a good ole laugh and giggle but had it been them who it was done to it wouldn't be so funny .


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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:28 am

When I was considering joining this forum, Phil said that would bait me with subtle posts about religion or whatever. He doesn't just act out of anger, and I wish people would stop implying that he does.

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Post by FluffyBunny on Tue May 20, 2014 10:28 am

harrymuffin wrote:Fluffybunny hasn't seen the Phil antics over these so many years. Rolling Eyes 

That's true,I haven't.I have seen Phil being very rude but I have also seen very offensive comments aimed at him.

The only poster who has truly shocked me on here was Smelly who made a comment about Phil's partner being 'AIDS riddled',I don't believe the basement had been created at that point but for me,that was a ban worthy comment.


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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:28 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Should add in all seriousness, I did address his post in the thread in which he posted it. It was to no avail. But then, I might have been a bit combative in how I addressed it ...

I see you're backing down already.  Razz 

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Tue May 20, 2014 10:29 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:I wonder how many posters would be so laid back about being put in the basement ?

It's fine saying he deserves it because of this or that ,but it is the same as when Ben set the forum for islam and muslim to show up as ''hello i am very stupid''
Everyone thought it was a good ole laugh and giggle but had it been them who it was done to it wouldn't be so funny .


Well, the point is not for people to feel all rosy about it, but to enforce the rules of the forum without having to ban people.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:29 am

FluffyBunny wrote:
harrymuffin wrote:Fluffybunny hasn't seen the Phil antics over these so many years. Rolling Eyes 

That's true,I haven't.I have seen Phil being very rude but I have also seen very offensive comments aimed at him.

The only poster who has truly shocked me on here was Smelly who made a comment about Phil's partner being 'AIDS riddled',I don't believe the basement had been created at that point but for me,that was a ban worthy comment.


It was a bad post, but Phil had accused Smelly of being a terrorist sympathiser at the time.

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Tue May 20, 2014 10:31 am

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Ben_Reilly wrote:Should add in all seriousness, I did address his post in the thread in which he posted it. It was to no avail. But then, I might have been a bit combative in how I addressed it ...

I see you're backing down already.  Razz 

Look, I'm just trying to say that admin title aside, I'm as human as everyone else. When you guys tell me I'm out of line, I might not agree, but I do listen.

I will say in my defense -- he was being horrible to other members here, he was not banned, I was going to lift his restriction after about 12 hours, but he couldn't even wait that long.

Pretty strange that I'm now catching shit for him leaving now ...

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Post by Guest on Tue May 20, 2014 10:33 am

Raggamuffin wrote:When I was considering joining this forum, Phil said that would bait me with subtle posts about religion or whatever. He doesn't just act out of anger, and I wish people would stop implying that he does.

I think he has problems and holds a grudge and won't let it go but so do many others on here .

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:34 am

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I see you're backing down already.  Razz 

Look, I'm just trying to say that admin title aside, I'm as human as everyone else. When you guys tell me I'm out of line, I might not agree, but I do listen.

I will say in my defense -- he was being horrible to other members here, he was not banned, I was going to lift his restriction after about 12 hours, but he couldn't even wait that long.

Pretty strange that I'm now catching shit for him leaving now ...

I'm only messing about.  ::D:: 

If you think you're right, you should stick to your guns, but if you decide that he should have another chance, that's up to you. The people who are defending him obviously haven't been abused by him, or they don't know what he's been like on other forums.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:35 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:When I was considering joining this forum, Phil said that would bait me with subtle posts about religion or whatever. He doesn't just act out of anger, and I wish people would stop implying that he does.

I think he has problems and holds a grudge and won't let it go but so do many others on here .

He initially decided he had a grudge against me because of my faith - no other reason.

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Post by FluffyBunny on Tue May 20, 2014 10:36 am

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I see you're backing down already.  Razz 

Look, I'm just trying to say that admin title aside, I'm as human as everyone else. When you guys tell me I'm out of line, I might not agree, but I do listen.

I will say in my defense -- he was being horrible to other members here, he was not banned, I was going to lift his restriction after about 12 hours, but he couldn't even wait that long.

Pretty strange that I'm now catching shit for him leaving now ...

I actually think as an Admin you are incredibly fair and normal. Its obvious you are a nice normal guy,which is a relief as the Admin I have experienced in other forums are quite devious and mad.

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Post by Guest on Tue May 20, 2014 10:37 am

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Raggamuffin wrote:

I see you're backing down already.  Razz 

Look, I'm just trying to say that admin title aside, I'm as human as everyone else. When you guys tell me I'm out of line, I might not agree, but I do listen.

I will say in my defense -- he was being horrible to other members here, he was not banned, I was going to lift his restriction after about 12 hours, but he couldn't even wait that long.

Pretty strange that I'm now catching shit for him leaving now ...

You know I try to see why Phil does it as well, and I think after the years of horrendous abuse he has received he is now conditioned to dish it out before he gets it. I know what just a short while of it did to me. But I don't think you have done anything wrong Ben, you have tried your hardest. Unfortunately, when you have as many problems as Phil, they don't just disappear, they are ongoing, forever and he will always go up and down.

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Raggamuffin wrote:

I see you're backing down already.  Razz 

Look, I'm just trying to say that admin title aside, I'm as human as everyone else. When you guys tell me I'm out of line, I might not agree, but I do listen.

I will say in my defense -- he was being horrible to other members here, he was not banned, I was going to lift his restriction after about 12 hours, but he couldn't even wait that long.

Pretty strange that I'm now catching shit for him leaving now ...

In your defence Ben, this might never happen again...lol, being admin is the ultimate bad burnt or scolded, what ever you do will be wrong to someone and you can only do your best and to be honest most of the time your best is pretty good.

yes you are only human and ultimately will kick out at someone who touches a nerve but to strive to be as unbiased as humanly possible is thhe ost important thing in being admin...

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:37 am

FluffyBunny wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

Look, I'm just trying to say that admin title aside, I'm as human as everyone else. When you guys tell me I'm out of line, I might not agree, but I do listen.

I will say in my defense -- he was being horrible to other members here, he was not banned, I was going to lift his restriction after about 12 hours, but he couldn't even wait that long.

Pretty strange that I'm now catching shit for him leaving now ...

I actually think as an Admin you are incredibly fair and normal. Its obvious you are a nice normal guy,which is a relief as the Admin I have experienced in other forums are quite devious and mad.

Don't start ...

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Post by harrymuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:39 am

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I see you're backing down already.  Razz 

Look, I'm just trying to say that admin title aside, I'm as human as everyone else. When you guys tell me I'm out of line, I might not agree, but I do listen.

I will say in my defense -- he was being horrible to other members here, he was not banned, I was going to lift his restriction after about 12 hours, but he couldn't even wait that long.

Pretty strange that I'm now catching shit for him leaving now ...

There will always be members that won't agree with your decisions.

Such is the life of an Admin.

You do what you feel is best. You're the Admin. Don't worry about catching shit, the monkeys will tire of throwing it.

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Tue May 20, 2014 10:40 am

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I see you're backing down already.  Razz 

Look, I'm just trying to say that admin title aside, I'm as human as everyone else. When you guys tell me I'm out of line, I might not agree, but I do listen.

I will say in my defense -- he was being horrible to other members here, he was not banned, I was going to lift his restriction after about 12 hours, but he couldn't even wait that long.

Pretty strange that I'm now catching shit for him leaving now ...

I'm only messing about.  ::D:: 

If you think you're right, you should stick to your guns, but if you decide that he should have another chance, that's up to you. The people who are defending him obviously haven't been abused by him, or they don't know what he's been like on other forums.

Thanks, Rags. Honestly I think that he's been very detrimental to this site on the whole, and I hate to say that because he did introduce a lot of people to the site. The problem as I see it is that if you ever disagree with him in the slightest, you're the enemy in his view and there's no limit to the abuse he feels justified in giving you.

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Raggamuffin wrote:When I was considering joining this forum, Phil said that would bait me with subtle posts about religion or whatever. He doesn't just act out of anger, and I wish people would stop implying that he does.

I think he has problems and holds a grudge and won't let it go but so do many others on here .

I think he takes it to a whole other level though, VOD. There are many here who don't get along very well, but Phil made a habit of jumping into a perfectly civil thread and making a drive-by insult at someone who had "wronged" him days, weeks, months ago and turning every last thread, even and especially ones that people were having fun in, into a fight. I hated to see that.

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Raggamuffin wrote:
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I think he has problems and holds a grudge and won't let it go but so do many others on here .

He initially decided he had a grudge against me because of my faith - no other reason.

he does have a problem with christianity and we have had our differences in the past he and many others have said terrible stuff to me but i have retaliated equally, i see the good in everyone and i know Phil isn't all bad nobody is .


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Post by harvesmom on Tue May 20, 2014 10:43 am

Why don't you do the democratic thing and take it to a vote  Smile  And anyone who votes that Phil can come back can't report or complain about any of his future posts  cheers 
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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:44 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

He initially decided he had a grudge against me because of my faith - no other reason.

he does have a problem with christianity and we have had our differences in the past he and many others have said terrible stuff to me but i have retaliated equally, i see the good in everyone and i know Phil isn't all bad nobody is .


I'm sure he didn't used to have a problem with Christianity when I first encountered him. We were forum mates actually - well sort of. I was a "mod" on a forum where he posted, and I tried to protect him from bad stuff. Later on he just turned on me for no apparent reason other than because of my faith.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:45 am

harvesmom wrote:Why don't you do the democratic thing and take it to a vote  Smile  And anyone who votes that Phil can come back can't report or complain about any of his future posts  cheers 

They won't need to complain about his future posts because he won't target them, or they'll just say that he has "difficulties".

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Tue May 20, 2014 10:46 am

I think he just does what a lot of people do -- he hears about Christians doing something bad in the media and judges all Christians on that basis.

My rule of thumb is, think about the last time you read an article about someone doing something good -- they're pretty rare, compared to the doom-and-gloom stories which bring in all the money Smile

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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Tue May 20, 2014 10:48 am

Just to add, when the media reports on Mexicans in my home state, are they reporting about my boss, who works his ass off and does the best job he can? No, they're writing about the Mexicans who illegally crossed the border and got arrested for gang activity.

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Post by Guest on Tue May 20, 2014 10:49 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:I think he just does what a lot of people do -- he hears about Christians doing something bad in the media and judges all Christians on that basis.

My rule of thumb is, think about the last time you read an article about someone doing something good -- they're pretty rare, compared to the doom-and-gloom stories which bring in all the money Smile

scandal sells papers and makes news, invariably good things do not, sad really.. Sad 

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Post by Guest on Tue May 20, 2014 10:51 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Just to add, when the media reports on Mexicans in my home state, are they reporting about my boss, who works his ass off and does the best job he can? No, they're writing about the Mexicans who illegally crossed the border and got arrested for gang activity.

Ain't that the truth the world over, encompassing all races and creeds. Maybe that's why xenophobia is rife.

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Post by FluffyBunny on Tue May 20, 2014 10:52 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
harvesmom wrote:Why don't you do the democratic thing and take it to a vote  Smile  And anyone who votes that Phil can come back can't report or complain about any of his future posts  cheers 

They won't need to complain about his future posts because he won't target them, or they'll just say that he has "difficulties".

But he DOES have difficulties Ragga.That doesn't excuse him wrecking threads though and I hope he reigns that in.

On the other hand though if someone else starts on him without provocation he has every right to defend himself.

I don't know the history but I actually wish people could just start afresh and stay on topic. Personal abuse isn't needed in political debate and its bloody boring to boot.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:52 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:I think he just does what a lot of people do -- he hears about Christians doing something bad in the media and judges all Christians on that basis.

My rule of thumb is, think about the last time you read an article about someone doing something good -- they're pretty rare, compared to the doom-and-gloom stories which bring in all the money Smile

Yes, but that was just the start of it. He hounded me after that, telling lies about my personal life, making disgusting vulgar posts about me, etc.

Has it occurred to you that the reason he keeps on deleting his account and coming back is so that his previous posts can't be found?

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Post by Guest on Tue May 20, 2014 10:52 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:I think he just does what a lot of people do -- he hears about Christians doing something bad in the media and judges all Christians on that basis.

My rule of thumb is, think about the last time you read an article about someone doing something good -- they're pretty rare, compared to the doom-and-gloom stories which bring in all the money Smile

I tried that Ben i made a good news thread , but nobody posted only me and you lol .

I prefer to hear good news i thought others would too

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Post by FluffyBunny on Tue May 20, 2014 10:53 am

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Ben_Reilly wrote:I think he just does what a lot of people do -- he hears about Christians doing something bad in the media and judges all Christians on that basis.

My rule of thumb is, think about the last time you read an article about someone doing something good -- they're pretty rare, compared to the doom-and-gloom stories which bring in all the money Smile

scandal sells papers and makes news, invariably good things do not, sad really.. Sad 

I don't think human beings do 'good things' very often,the human condition is not a kind one (in general)

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:54 am

FluffyBunny wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

They won't need to complain about his future posts because he won't target them, or they'll just say that he has "difficulties".

But he DOES have difficulties Ragga.That doesn't excuse him wrecking threads though and I hope he reigns that in.

On the other hand though if someone else starts on him without provocation he has every right to defend himself.

I don't know the history but I actually wish people could just start afresh and stay on topic. Personal abuse isn't needed in political debate and its bloody boring to boot.

A lot of people have difficulties. You assume that his posts are a result of his difficulties, and that they're not malicious. You assume that he just retaliates, but he doesn't - he often initiates the abuse.

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Post by FluffyBunny on Tue May 20, 2014 10:55 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:I think he just does what a lot of people do -- he hears about Christians doing something bad in the media and judges all Christians on that basis.

My rule of thumb is, think about the last time you read an article about someone doing something good -- they're pretty rare, compared to the doom-and-gloom stories which bring in all the money Smile

Yes, but that was just the start of it. He hounded me after that, telling lies about my personal life,

Since you do that to other people you are in absolutely no position to judge Phil for it. None at all.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 20, 2014 10:56 am

FluffyBunny wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Yes, but that was just the start of it. He hounded me after that, telling lies about my personal life,  

Since you do that to other people you are in absolutely no position to judge Phil for it. None at all.

Oh yes I am. You don't know what he's like - you have no idea.


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Post by Guest on Tue May 20, 2014 10:56 am

Raggamuffin even when he deletes his account and it says guest people still know who made the posts and if others quote them it still says his name on that quote .

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Post by Guest on Tue May 20, 2014 10:58 am

FluffyBunny wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

scandal sells papers and makes news, invariably good things do not, sad really.. Sad 

I don't think human beings do 'good things' very often,the human condition is not a kind one (in general)

I totally disagree but it seldom makes news and to be honest this world does breed the notion of screw you as long as i am happy..

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