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Post by veya_victaous on Tue May 13, 2014 1:41 am

The two girls, aptly named Faith and Hope, arrived last Thursday after a short labour, with Ms Young first being taken to Blacktown Hospital before being rushed by ambulance to Westmead Children’s Hospital.

Faith and Hope are the result of an extremely rare condition known as disrosopus, where a baby is born with two faces.

Fewer than 40 human disrosopus cases are known to have been born. Even fewer survived beyond birth.

The couple said even though the baby only had one body, they still refered to them as their beautiful baby twins.

“I think they’re beautiful and Simon thinks they’re beautiful so really that’s all that matters,” Ms Young said in an interview with A Current Affair.





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Post by Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly on Tue May 13, 2014 6:00 am

Wow, what if they live? That would be a seriously unprecedented existence. Hoping that they do.

BTW, I originally read this thinking you'd found a story that said faith and hope were symptoms of a disease ...

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Post by Guest on Tue May 13, 2014 7:21 am

the title of this thread is misleading .I'm surprised you haven't corrected it ben

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Post by Guest on Tue May 13, 2014 7:30 am

i doubt they will survive and if they did their head would be too large to hold on their body , two brains growing two heads growing and then if they reach adulthood their head would be huge , it just wouldn't happen in my opinion .
that indian baby died a few weeks after birth which had the same condition .

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Post by Guest on Tue May 13, 2014 8:16 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:the title of this thread is misleading .I'm surprised you haven't corrected it ben
How is it??

Anyway, looking at footage of the baby/ies this morning, it appeared to me that the centre two eyes worked normally while the outside ones didn't, and one hand on each baby's arm was moving,not the other. I wonder if the two brains are in fact two halves of the same one, and that the outside limbs/features are redundant, and the central ones belonging to one baby. If that's the case there's a chance surgeons can remove redundant limbs etc and have an end result of one baby. I doubt it though, so the poor baby won't live long. But you never know.

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Post by Guest on Tue May 13, 2014 8:36 am

morning tess.
i don't know who janus is lol that's why i thought it misleading maybe its a god i don't know .

But back to the baby , how can she support to heads with two brains on one body , seems a bit much to me .

Brittany and Abby have two spines and so can support their two heads , that sounds horrible but it's the only way to describe them .

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Post by Guest on Tue May 13, 2014 8:54 am

Janus is a Roman god, represented with a double faced head, because he is the god of doors and beginnings and endings.

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Post by Guest on Tue May 13, 2014 8:57 am

ah thank you sassy makes sense now but i doubt the baby born is a reincarnation of that particular god .

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Post by Guest on Tue May 13, 2014 8:59 am

I doubt Veya thought is was VOD, he was probably just referring to the double face.   I don't suppose the child will live, how that poor mother is coping I have no idea.

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Post by Guest on Tue May 13, 2014 9:21 am

Sassy wrote:I doubt Veya thought is was VOD, he was probably just referring to the double face.   I don't suppose the child will live, how that poor mother is coping I have no idea.
She must be feeling desparate. It's the same when there are conjoined twins, and the mother knows that to save one would mean killing the weaker one. How appalling must that be? They must live with guilt all their lives thinking they'd killed their own child.

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Post by Guest on Tue May 13, 2014 9:23 am

Tesstacious wrote:
Sassy wrote:I doubt Veya thought is was VOD, he was probably just referring to the double face.   I don't suppose the child will live, how that poor mother is coping I have no idea.
She must be feeling desparate.  It's the same when there are conjoined twins, and the mother knows that to save one would mean killing the weaker one.  How appalling must that be?  They must live with guilt all their lives thinking they'd killed their own child.

I know Tess, an appalling situation to be in.

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Post by gerber on Tue May 13, 2014 10:25 am

I could not cope but both were aware long before the birth. An Aus TV station apparently have been following the parents for some time and filming.

Maybe it is early and before my ninth coffee but money might have been the driving force to continue with the pregnancy....

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Post by Guest on Tue May 13, 2014 12:50 pm

Sassy wrote:I doubt Veya thought is was VOD, he was probably just referring to the double face.   I don't suppose the child will live, how that poor mother is coping I have no idea.

yes tragic but the twins are loved and that is everything . How long they will survive is the question and what are they going through with medical treatment bless them

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Post by eddie on Tue May 13, 2014 8:04 pm

Did she know they'd be born this way?
I'm not sure I'd have gone through with the pregnancy tbh.

It's an awful way to live.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 13, 2014 8:23 pm

Why is this poor little baby being exposed to the press?

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Post by eddie on Tue May 13, 2014 8:36 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Why is this poor little baby being exposed to the press?

For the same reasons some people choose to have a baby when they know it's going to suffer:
Selfishness.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 13, 2014 8:42 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Why is this poor little baby being exposed to the press?

For the same reasons some people choose to have a baby when they know it's going to suffer:
Selfishness.

IMO.

I don't like it. I'm surprised they haven't put a video of the birth on You Tube. Poor little baby isn't there for people to gawp at.

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue May 13, 2014 11:37 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Why is this poor little baby being exposed to the press?

For the same reasons some people choose to have a baby when they know it's going to suffer:
Selfishness.

IMO.

I don't like it. I'm surprised they haven't put a video of the birth on You Tube. Poor little baby isn't there for people to gawp at.

Actually they have gotten a lot of money from a major TV station here.

I don't think they knew it was going to be born like this, both parents have healthy children for other relationships. they are from a lower class area of Blacktown and the amount of money the TV station have offered would have been the equivalent of many years income.

On TV it was very interesting, the amount of issues are mind boggling. like if one mouth swallows food while the other is breathing they would probably choke, they pretty much just have the one set of organs below the neck. And the brains are joined (sort of 1 and half brains) so is it even 2 individuals or still the one? raises so many philosophical questions. (what do Christians think would she have 2 souls? and then how does that extrapolate to identical twins created through the same biological process?)

they give it days or weeks to live, but due to the media attention it is getting the best care possible.  Neutral 

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue May 13, 2014 11:40 pm

@VOD

the reference to Janus is actually made by the medical fraternity too

A Janus Cat (for some reason this condition is more common in cats)



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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue May 13, 2014 11:42 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I don't like it. I'm surprised they haven't put a video of the birth on You Tube. Poor little baby isn't there for people to gawp at.

Actually they have gotten a lot of money from a major TV station here.

I don't think they knew it was going to be born like this, both parents have healthy children for other relationships. they are from a lower class area of Blacktown and the amount of money the TV station have offered would have been the equivalent of many years income.

On TV it was very interesting, the amount of issues are mind boggling. like if one mouth swallows food while the other is breathing they would probably choke, they pretty much just have the one set of organs below the neck. And the brains are joined (sort of 1 and half brains) so is it even 2 individuals or still the one? raises so many philosophical questions. (what do Christians think would she have 2 souls? and then how does that extrapolate to identical twins created through the same biological process?)

they give it days or weeks to live, but due to the media attention it is getting the best care possible.  Neutral 

I think that diprosopus refers to one person with two faces, so it's one child.

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Post by Lone Wolf on Mon May 19, 2014 2:00 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
the title of this thread is misleading .I'm surprised you haven't corrected it ben

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Idiot...

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Post by Lone Wolf on Mon May 19, 2014 2:01 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
i doubt they will survive and if they did their head would be too large to hold on their body , two brains growing two heads growing and then if they reach adulthood their head would be huge , it just wouldn't happen in my opinion .
that indian baby died a few weeks after birth which had the same condition .

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Post by Lone Wolf on Mon May 19, 2014 2:03 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:morning tess.
i don't know who janus is lol that's why i thought it misleading maybe its a god i don't know ..........

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Post by Guest on Mon May 19, 2014 3:13 pm

Lone Wolf wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:
i doubt they will survive and if they did their head would be too large to hold on their body , two brains growing two heads growing and then if they reach adulthood their head would be huge , it just wouldn't happen in my opinion .
that indian baby died a few weeks after birth which had the same condition .

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get back to your kennel who let you off your lead anyway  Laughing 

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Post by Guest on Mon May 19, 2014 3:15 pm

Lone Wolf wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:morning tess.
i don't know who janus is lol that's why i thought it misleading maybe its a god i don't know ..........

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yes you are  Laughing 

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