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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:02 pm

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Ive watched over a few forums lately and notice more and more some who swear they are not racist, but are only concerned with immigration numbers for the sake of jobs , housing , medical etc...which I can quite understand, and some will even say...'oh I don't bother about their skin colour'...where that couldn't be further from the truth.

To wish to stop others from other nationalities (some of who bring great skills to this country) as well as to wish to kick other out of Britain is racist.

It's just become far too ridiculous for some who hide behind this mask of racism while propping up racist political parties whose MAIN agenda is to pander to other racists who wish them deported and refused further entry to here.


These few posters act like silly bairns kicking and screaming  and highlighting crimes committed by Muslims, blacks and Eastern Europeans...

Don't you realise what a stupid hate filled and spiteful little nation we look like?


It seems the word ' Racist' means different things to different people...

It is what it is and you(s) are what you are...

I'm not trying to have personal digs, but the few know who they are too.


I'm ashamed to share our lovely wee country with such people.Sad

Amd it's a real shame as some of these posters are otherwise alright indeed.

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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:43 pm

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Yes London will always be seen as a target Rags, but someone just mentioned Birmingham earlier....there, the UK's second largest City, then Glasgow ..and we've tasted a bit there...

Im sure folk in other large cities around the UK do understand they can be a target.

But then I doubt the people of Lockerbie ever thought they would be affected by terrorism. It really can happen anywhere.


...well the intention there was to take masses lives and it succeeded, but Megrahi did not care where the plane fell, so long as all on board were killed and others on the ground would be regarded as a bonus.

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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:45 pm

And tbh,  a plane travelling anywhere can at any time prove a danger or threat to folk on the ground anywhere, be it terrorism, fault or pilot error.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:48 pm

The point is that people in the sticks don't think about that sort of thing, even though it could happen there. It's the fear of an attack which is the issue.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:23 pm

Labour opened the taps on immigration, against the wishes of the British people, they denied it was happening, they allowed eastern European immigration open door saying there would only be a few thousand coming, there were hundreds of thousands who came. Again against the wishes of the British people.

Conservative were elected partly because they promised to reduce immigration from hundreds of thousands to temp of thousands, They haven't done it, the figures actually went up.


We should be training up more of our own medical staff, but that is A different argument.


Polish unemployment rate halved from about 20% to 10% from 2004 when gained free movement to UK, while our youth unemployment has doubled during this time to about 25%.


This mass immigration over the last 15 years or so has driven up cost of living while driving down wages, put strain on housing, roads, schools, NHS and everything else.


We didn't want it, we didn't need it and we don't want any more of it.


Nothing to do with dear and prejudice bullshit, it's about regaining control of our borders and looking after the wishes of British people first.

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Re: 'Acceptable' racism...

Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:28 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Labour opened the taps on immigration, against the wishes of the British people, they denied it was happening, they allowed eastern European immigration open door saying there would only be a few thousand coming, there were hundreds of thousands who came. Again against the wishes of the British people.

Conservative were elected partly because they promised to reduce immigration from hundreds of thousands to temp of thousands, They haven't done it, the figures actually went up.


We should be training up more of our own medical staff, but that is A different argument.


Polish unemployment rate halved from about 20% to 10% from 2004 when gained free movement to UK, while our youth unemployment has doubled during this time to about 25%.


This mass immigration over the last 15 years or so has driven up cost of living while driving down wages, put strain on housing, roads, schools, NHS and everything else.


We didn't want it, we didn't need it and we don't want any more of it.


Nothing to do with dear and prejudice bullshit, it's about regaining control of our borders and looking after the wishes of British people first.


I thought that Thatcher set the course for our EU Membership Tommy? , I'm sure Irn remembers that ....

I also though the immigration flood gates were well and truly open while Thatcher was still in office?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:42 pm

2004 is when the borders were opened up to unlimited east Europe immigration.


Half of the 3 million muslems here arrived under labours time in govt.



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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:45 pm

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BigAndy9 wrote:Many terrorist acts near you JD, didge?

Or as I suspect, do you live in blissful ignorance?

Try thinking of the millions in fear.


Andy, what about the terrorist attack on Glasgow airport?

I know what you and smelly are saying, but obviously London will be a target being the largest UK city and with a parliament there and Royals etc...

But anywhere can be a target, any big City can...not just London, a terrorist usually wants to take out as many as they can in one go.

It's fucking not me and Didge's fault we don't live in London ffs!!

How do you think New Yorkers and Washington people feel???????....


And Smelly ,what is the point in making things worse by showing signs of hatred by letting the EDL march about?

Of course people have strong feelings, especially after Lee Rigby, but to take to the streets with such hostility telling all Muslims to go home will only escalate matters man.


well then matey boy sounds to me like you're the kind who is too scared to speak out

sounds to me like you're the kind is is happy to tolerate the killers of lee rigby so long as they don't come near your town and its not YOU having your head hacked off

best not offend the Muslims eh

let them hack and murder and rape young girls as they will, so long as we aren't protesting too loudly and hurting their feelings

pathetic capitulation





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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:46 pm

I think the figures disagree with yourself and your friend Iron, JD.

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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:50 pm

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Yes Andy, thanks for the idiotic replies, where again you use extreme examples, like war for example., or now lions, please spare me your utter ignorance, as it is embarrassing to read






Smelly proving my point again using extreme examples, I notice he did not bring up a certain far right extremist that murdered a Muslim and targeted Mosques with terrorism.

You see this is all xenophobes play on, they play on extreme examples that castigate groups of people, guilt by association, the same happened to the Irish during the IRA campaign.

People of hate and fear, will always target groups of people, because they are so prejudice, yet cannot back a valid reason to do this, they always use extremeexamples

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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:51 pm

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Andy, what about the terrorist attack on Glasgow airport?

I know what you and smelly are saying, but obviously London will be a target being the largest UK city and with a parliament there and Royals etc...

But anywhere can be a target, any big City can...not just London, a terrorist usually wants to take out as many as they can in one go.

It's fucking not me and Didge's fault we don't live in London ffs!!

How do you think New Yorkers and Washington people feel???????....


And Smelly ,what is the point in making things worse by showing signs of hatred by letting the EDL march about?

Of course people have strong feelings, especially after Lee Rigby, but to take to the streets with such hostility telling all Muslims to go home will only escalate matters man.


well then matey boy sounds to me like you're the kind who is too scared to speak out

sounds to me like you're the kind is is happy to tolerate the killers of lee rigby so long as they don't come near your town and its not YOU having your head hacked off  

best not offend the Muslims eh

let them hack and murder and rape young girls as they will, so long as we aren't protesting too loudly and hurting their feelings

pathetic capitulation








Utterly ignorant reply, nobody tolerates any murder, you though associate to fear all off extreme examples based upon again only two successful attacks in this country, that is ignorance of the highest order.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:53 pm

That chap who murdered Lee Rigby was so weird, in that he wasn't really weird. He sounded like he was just talking about slapping someone or something.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:56 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:That chap who murdered Lee Rigby was so weird, in that he wasn't really weird. He sounded like he was just talking about slapping someone or something.

I've read interviews with counter-terrorism experts where they say that terrorists often consider the murder of their victims a cold, emotionless act like stepping on an insect. If you ask me that's somehow scarier than someone killing out of rage.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:17 pm

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Raggamuffin wrote:That chap who murdered Lee Rigby was so weird, in that he wasn't really weird. He sounded like he was just talking about slapping someone or something.

I've read interviews with counter-terrorism experts where they say that terrorists often consider the murder of their victims a cold, emotionless act like stepping on an insect. If you ask me that's somehow scarier than someone killing out of rage.

It was Francoise Fanon (The Wretched of the Earth) who said you have to live the death of your enemy before you live.

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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:06 pm

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Andy, what about the terrorist attack on Glasgow airport?

I know what you and smelly are saying, but obviously London will be a target being the largest UK city and with a parliament there and Royals etc...

But anywhere can be a target, any big City can...not just London, a terrorist usually wants to take out as many as they can in one go.

It's fucking not me and Didge's fault we don't live in London ffs!!

How do you think New Yorkers and Washington people feel???????....


And Smelly ,what is the point in making things worse by showing signs of hatred by letting the EDL march about?

Of course people have strong feelings, especially after Lee Rigby, but to take to the streets with such hostility telling all Muslims to go home will only escalate matters man.


well then matey boy sounds to me like you're the kind who is too scared to speak out

sounds to me like you're the kind is is happy to tolerate the killers of lee rigby so long as they don't come near your town and its not YOU having your head hacked off  

best not offend the Muslims eh

let them hack and murder and rape young girls as they will, so long as we aren't protesting too loudly and hurting their feelings

pathetic capitulation






Ah for goodness sake Smelly, I fucking resent what those evil fcuker so done to Lee Rigby as much as you do..

It's not about off offending Muslims Smelly, it is people who carry put those despicable acts!, not the actual religion.

I was once bordering on thinking like that Smelly, but there are heaps of Muslims who condemned what happened to that poor guy Lee Rigby...

The truth is , to terrorists , we in the West will always be targets...

They idiots who killed Lee are not your everyday normal Muslim, they are hate filled evil bastards!!!

Your totally wrong in what you say of me regards to LR murder, and I've never ever said or thought tough shit..as long as it's not happening up here, I'm disappointed Smelly, but assuming every Muslim is the same is only going backwards man.

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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:04 pm

Joy Division wrote:
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well then matey boy sounds to me like you're the kind who is too scared to speak out

sounds to me like you're the kind is is happy to tolerate the killers of lee rigby so long as they don't come near your town and its not YOU having your head hacked off  

best not offend the Muslims eh

let them hack and murder and rape young girls as they will, so long as we aren't protesting too loudly and hurting their feelings

pathetic capitulation






Ah for goodness sake Smelly, I fucking resent what those evil fcuker so done to Lee Rigby as much as you do..

It's not about off offending  Muslims Smelly, it is people who carry put those despicable acts!, not the actual religion.

I was once bordering on thinking like that Smelly, but there are heaps of Muslims who condemned what happened to that poor guy Lee Rigby...

The truth is , to terrorists , we in the West will always be targets...

They idiots who killed Lee are not your everyday normal Muslim, they are hate filled evil bastards!!!

Your totally wrong in what you say of me regards to LR murder, and I've never ever said or thought tough shit..as long as it's not happening up here, I'm disappointed Smelly, but assuming every Muslim is the same is only going backwards man.



Hmmmm...one could...if one were harsh enough, say If NONE of em were here, then the terrorists wouldnt be here..... Twisted Evil 

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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:05 pm

Joy Division wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:


well then matey boy sounds to me like you're the kind who is too scared to speak out

sounds to me like you're the kind is is happy to tolerate the killers of lee rigby so long as they don't come near your town and its not YOU having your head hacked off  

best not offend the Muslims eh

let them hack and murder and rape young girls as they will, so long as we aren't protesting too loudly and hurting their feelings

pathetic capitulation






Ah for goodness sake Smelly, I fucking resent what those evil fcuker so done to Lee Rigby as much as you do..

It's not about off offending  Muslims Smelly, it is people who carry put those despicable acts!, not the actual religion.

I was once bordering on thinking like that Smelly, but there are heaps of Muslims who condemned what happened to that poor guy Lee Rigby...

The truth is , to terrorists , we in the West will always be targets...

They idiots who killed Lee are not your everyday normal Muslim, they are hate filled evil bastards!!!

Your totally wrong in what you say of me regards to LR murder, and I've never ever said or thought tough shit..as long as it's not happening up here, I'm disappointed Smelly, but assuming every Muslim is the same is only going backwards man.

its is about the religion because the Muslim murderer is filmed saying that the qur'an made him do it

are you really trying to tell me that a Muslim killing a non Muslim whilst reciting the qur'anic verse which instructs him to kill non Muslims isn't motivated by his religion??

are you really trying to tell me that you don't understand or grasp the difference between what a person believes and what a religious doctrine dictates??

are you really trying to tell me that you think religious scripture and doctrine written centuries ago has the power to independently adapt and change according to amount of people who adhere to it???

really??





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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:06 pm

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Ah for goodness sake Smelly, I fucking resent what those evil fcuker so done to Lee Rigby as much as you do..

It's not about off offending  Muslims Smelly, it is people who carry put those despicable acts!, not the actual religion.

I was once bordering on thinking like that Smelly, but there are heaps of Muslims who condemned what happened to that poor guy Lee Rigby...

The truth is , to terrorists , we in the West will always be targets...

They idiots who killed Lee are not your everyday normal Muslim, they are hate filled evil bastards!!!

Your totally wrong in what you say of me regards to LR murder, and I've never ever said or thought tough shit..as long as it's not happening up here, I'm disappointed Smelly, but assuming every Muslim is the same is only going backwards man.



Hmmmm...one could...if one were harsh enough, say If NONE of em were here, then the terrorists wouldnt be here..... Twisted Evil 


Interesting, how so, would we stop all people even visiting the UK also by that view?
Or the fact Muslims have been here for centuries.
How far back do you want to go with this view point?
If we had not got involved in Afghanistan helping fund Bin Laden, to not having troops in Saudi for the first Gulf war?
The fuck up over Palestine?


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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:06 pm

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Ah for goodness sake Smelly, I fucking resent what those evil fcuker so done to Lee Rigby as much as you do..

It's not about off offending  Muslims Smelly, it is people who carry put those despicable acts!, not the actual religion.

I was once bordering on thinking like that Smelly, but there are heaps of Muslims who condemned what happened to that poor guy Lee Rigby...

The truth is , to terrorists , we in the West will always be targets...

They idiots who killed Lee are not your everyday normal Muslim, they are hate filled evil bastards!!!

Your totally wrong in what you say of me regards to LR murder, and I've never ever said or thought tough shit..as long as it's not happening up here, I'm disappointed Smelly, but assuming every Muslim is the same is only going backwards man.



Hmmmm...one could...if one were harsh enough, say If NONE of em were here, then the terrorists wouldnt be here..... Twisted Evil 

the truth is only harsh to those who prefer falsehood

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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:07 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
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Hmmmm...one could...if one were harsh enough, say If NONE of em were here, then the terrorists wouldnt be here..... Twisted Evil 

the truth is only harsh to those who prefer falsehood


Except as seen the truth is how things lead to other events, which you clearly miss.

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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:11 pm

Didge wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

the truth is only harsh to those who prefer falsehood


Except as seen the truth is how things lead to other events, which you clearly miss.

WHAT?????

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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:12 pm

That you cannot counter my points, I know it is hilarious to me too.

lol

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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:13 pm

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Ah for goodness sake Smelly, I fucking resent what those evil fcuker so done to Lee Rigby as much as you do..

It's not about off offending  Muslims Smelly, it is people who carry put those despicable acts!, not the actual religion.

I was once bordering on thinking like that Smelly, but there are heaps of Muslims who condemned what happened to that poor guy Lee Rigby...

The truth is , to terrorists , we in the West will always be targets...

They idiots who killed Lee are not your everyday normal Muslim, they are hate filled evil bastards!!!

Your totally wrong in what you say of me regards to LR murder, and I've never ever said or thought tough shit..as long as it's not happening up here, I'm disappointed Smelly, but assuming every Muslim is the same is only going backwards man.

its is about the religion because the Muslim murderer is filmed saying that the qur'an made him do it

are you really trying to tell me that a Muslim killing a non Muslim whilst reciting the qur'anic verse which instructs him to kill non Muslims isn't motivated by his religion??

are you really trying to tell me that you don't understand or grasp the difference between what a person believes and what a religious doctrine dictates??

are you really trying to tell me that you think religious scripture and doctrine written centuries ago has the power to independently adapt and change according to amount of people who adhere to it???

really??


 



Smelly that is delusion and/or extremism!!!!!


You say a man recited the Quran while killing, yes some of those balaclavad terrorists do too, bit theory religion is not forcing them to, they are choosing that, and sadly some brainwashing goes on in Islam, but it's the evil fcukers who do that!!!...

Otherwise Smelly, don't you think that if Islam and the Quran preached hatred and killing, that all Muslims would be doing it?...

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Post by Guest on Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:26 pm

Joy Division wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

its is about the religion because the Muslim murderer is filmed saying that the qur'an made him do it

are you really trying to tell me that a Muslim killing a non Muslim whilst reciting the qur'anic verse which instructs him to kill non Muslims isn't motivated by his religion??

are you really trying to tell me that you don't understand or grasp the difference between what a person believes and what a religious doctrine dictates??

are you really trying to tell me that you think religious scripture and doctrine written centuries ago has the power to independently adapt and change according to amount of people who adhere to it???

really??


 



Smelly that is delusion and/or extremism!!!!!


You say a man recited the Quran while killing, yes some of those balaclavad terrorists do too, bit theory religion is not forcing them to, they are choosing that, and sadly some brainwashing goes on in Islam, but it's the evil fcukers who do that!!!...

Otherwise Smelly, don't you think that if Islam and the Quran preached hatred and killing, that all Muslims would be doing it?...

Do you believe all Muslims are the same??

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Post by Lone Wolf on Mon May 05, 2014 1:02 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:
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From reading Harvesmum's answers she is a very prejudiced xenophobe, though not racist.
She uses extreme examples to claim she does not want things happen in this country, to the fact these are nothing more than extreme example and not the norm. I am sure this country like any other would like to know if someone is going to come here and take the piss, be criminal, extreme etc, but it is not that simple and in fact extremists can be British born, so where she intend to send these Brits for example?

I find her views appalling actually, they are based upon fear, fueled by prejudice using guilt by association.
Now we all would like everything to be prefect, but what about the millions of foreigners, who work hard, pay their way, add to the nation and are very much proud to be part of this nation? 
Sorry she has allowed fear to now control her views and when that happens it only leads to hate and discrimination.


As I pointed out to you before didge - in a court of law they will ask how you felt - "did you feel your life was in danger?  Did you feel afraid?"

Claiming 'Self defence' legal principles as an excuse for one's racist and xenophobic leanings ? Now that is an interesting "try on" in anti-logic reasoning by L'ilAndy right there.  Rolling Eyes 

Which is the best report on crime?  The one which asks the public how they feel about crime.  "Do you feel afraid to go out in the dark?"

THE actual crime figure's can often be vastly different to those zealot-fed "perceptions" from select little groups of gossiping, xenophobic, overly worried and stirred-up ignoramuses.. Suspect 

And if 10 million adults vote for UKIP based upon fear - are they all wrong, or if that fear is true, are they all right?

IF 10 million Brit's ever vote for the UKIP, BNP and EDL (combined) in any one election, then you will surely know that the end for your beloved U.K. is nigh ! Twisted Evil 


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