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Post by Irn Bru on Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:23 pm

Excellent news.


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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:24 pm

Very, very good!

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:29 pm

The UN's International Court of Justice (ICJ) has ruled that Japan must temporarily halt its whaling programme in the Antarctic. It agreed with Australia, which brought the case in May 2010, that the programme was not for scientific research as claimed by Tokyo.

Japan said it would abide by the decision but added it "regrets and is deeply disappointed by the decision".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26818863

Well done Aussies! Shame it's only temporary though.

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Post by nicko on Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:52 pm

well done to the aussies, now can we stop them slaughtering dolphins,
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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:00 pm

Christ on a bike you are an idiot, it's perfectly obvious he means Japan!

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:03 pm

It is great news indeed, but instill think the Japanese will still hunt and kill whales...with the big ridiculous slogan of 'research'...

It may take more than just a new international law to stop the Japanese...

But of course it's great news Smile

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:23 pm

You made a fool of yourself again, flinging nastiness at someone who was actually saying what a good job Australia had done, but you just carry on lashing out.

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Post by gerber on Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:57 pm

Will the boats already down in the Southern Ocean now return home without any cargo, don't think so .

Hasn't it been illegal for years but ignored by Japan as " Research " ?

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:06 pm

Yep, and they have been getting away with it by calling it 'research'.  Now they can't. Let's hope it's strictly enforced, but I won't hold my breath.

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Post by gerber on Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:40 pm

Who though will be doing the enforcing so far down South, not exactly close to anywhere, no Coastguards, no Police boats, only some Countries Navel vessels and they can't always be around at the right time as the Malaysian searching has proven.

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:00 pm

I think maybe they could enforce it another way, and whale products outlawed, as they do with ivory.

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Post by gerber on Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:03 pm

In my ignorance I thought whale products were already banned to a point.

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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:04 pm

Not sure Gerbs, but perhaps they have not been enforcing it re Japan, otherwise why would the Japenese have kept on with it, if it didn't get them any dosh.

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Post by Irn Bru on Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:57 pm

Japan isn't the only country hunting whales - Norway does it as well and on just as big a scale.
Both these countries are not signed up to the ICW whaling moratorium which imposed the ban. This is a good decision to now make it illegal so they must now stop.
The UK used to have a large whaling fleet many years ago and a lot of them sailed out of the Port of Leith on Christian Salvesen vessels. That's why there is a whaling station in the South Atlantic named Leith on South Georgia - the one the Argies invaded at the start of the Falklands war.

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Post by veya_victaous on Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:11 pm

Joy Division wrote:It is great news indeed, but instill think the Japanese will still hunt and kill whales...with the big ridiculous slogan of 'research'...

It may take more than just a new international law to stop the Japanese...

But of course it's great news Smile

Well We have got them out of our territories which includes about a third of the oceans in southern hemisphere so it is a bloody good start.

Also most of the Whales left live in our water where they are protected which is why Japan has been coming down here.

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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:54 am

I'm going to try and talk to you sensibly, one can only hope. Would you like to explain, as one human being to another, how my discussing the title of the thread with other people, which we all agreed was a very good thing, amounts to hijacking it.

Now, take a deep breath and answer sensibly, just for once.

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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:08 am

No? Ah well, never mind, going back to bed then, at least I tried.

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:54 am

gerber wrote:Will the boats already down in the Southern Ocean now return home without any cargo, don't think so .

Hasn't it been illegal for years but ignored by Japan as " Research " ?

it is not season there is no boats down here at the moment, they have not been able to catch much the last few years because of Sea Shepard and the massive public support for Whales in Australia, it became too risky for Japan to refuel it's whaling fleet here and too much of a source of pain for our politicians.

IT is not world wide It is in Australia's territory, Japan was disputing our right to make a whale sanctuary in our territory, in fact they were disputing that the area was our territory, The missing flight puts in into perspective, it might still be a distance from us but we are many times closer than anyone else.




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Post by gerber on Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:45 am

Thanks Veya and lonewolk.  Very informative.

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Post by nicko on Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:31 am

beekeeper,you stupid uneducated moron, I said it was JAPANESE killing dolphins NOT aussies.there is a place in japan where dolphins are herded in to a small cove and then hacked to death by the japs. your uneducated ways astound me.  
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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:46 am

You made a mistake, it happens, why not just apologise like a decent human being instead of mouthing off again?

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Post by nicko on Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:06 pm

you see this uneducated yob has no idea how to communicate with people.when he proves himself to be thick prat he just carries on disgracing himself with his macho replies. If he came face to face with those he insults he'd run away like a little girl. I bet in real life he's about 5ft tall with a spotty face and big goggle glasses. you disgrace the real aussies with your pathetic posts.
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Post by Stephenmarra on Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:23 pm

nicko wrote:you see this uneducated yob has no idea how to communicate  with people.when he proves himself to be thick prat he just carries on disgracing himself with his macho replies. If he came face to face with those he insults he'd run away like a little girl. I bet in real life he's about 5ft tall with a spotty face and big goggle glasses. you disgrace the real aussies with your pathetic posts.  


You see nicko I really don't mind his macho stuff, it's the squealing like a suckle pig when anyone says anything back to him !
Usually along the lines of "another unprovoked attack" or " more libellous posts from" or "personal vendetta"  .......  :-:bravo:-:  :-:bravo:-:  :-:bravo:-:  :-:bravo:-:  :-:bravo:-:  :-:bravo:-:  That's what I find nauseating  and very un-Aussie like.
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Post by Guest on Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:59 pm

Don't forget the 'stalking' if you dare post on a thread he starts. Can't make that one out, why start a thread if you only want to talk to yourself?

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Post by Stephenmarra on Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:40 pm

Sassy wrote:Don't forget the 'stalking' if you dare post on a thread he starts.   Can't make that one out, why start a thread if you only want to talk to yourself?
Aye ! that as well !  Rolling Eyes 
Bee's so OTT that I'm surprised that anyone still finds it offensive. It's just oh so sad and fucking tediously boring.
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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:43 am

I'm surprised you are pointing out the havoc and disruption you caused by the second post on this thread, which up to that point had been extremely nice and congratulating the Australians, when you were very rude to Nicko in the mistaken belief he was talking about Australians, when it was obvious to everyone else that he was talking about the Japanese. You still haven't had the grace to apologise to him for that, but carried on ranting again in your next post.


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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:49 pm

When you make a remark about me, replying isn't stalking.   I think everyone has worked out by now who the mad one is Bee, and it seems you are getting madder by the day.   I would advise getting help, because it's getting out of control.

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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:56 pm

Please do, they might offer you some solace and calm your rather excitable brain. Peace and quiet helps mental illness.

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Post by Irn Bru on Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:08 pm

Does this ban affect Aboriginal Subsistence Whaling?

Never knew about this...

http://iwc.int/aboriginal

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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:11 pm

Oh God, better qualify what that means before Bee goes off on one again:

In several parts of the world, whale products play an important role in the nutritional and cultural life of native peoples.

Since its inception, the IWC has recognised that indigenous or ‘aboriginal subsistence’ whaling is of a different nature to commercial whaling. It is thus not subject to the moratorium. This is reflected in the different objectives for the two types of whaling. For aboriginal subsistence whaling the objectives are to:

ensure that risks of extinction are not seriously increased by whaling;
enable native people to hunt whales at levels appropriate to their cultural and nutritional requirements (also called ‘need’); and
move populations towards and then maintain them at healthy levels.

Under current IWC regulations, aboriginal subsistence whaling is recognised for Denmark (Greenland, fin, bowhead, humpback and minke whales), the Russian Federation (Siberia, gray and bowhead whales), St Vincent and The Grenadines (Bequia, humpback whales) and the USA (Alaska, bowhead whales; Washington State, gray whales). It is the responsibility of national governments to provide the Commission with evidence of the cultural and subsistence needs of their people. The Scientific Committee provides scientific advice on safe catch limits for such stocks. Based on the information on need and scientific advice, the Commission then sets catch limits, recently in five-year blocks.



I think that was dealt with in the original whaling ban, this was just about Japan who ignored it.

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