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Post by FluffyBunny on Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:24 pm

I know this does not apply to all straight men btw,the vast majority of which are not homophobic at all.

What does interest me as a straight female is why some men seem to be quite damning and intolerant of gay men but have no problem with gay women? It does seem to be a male trend as women often befriend gay men,their sexuality not being an issue at all.

Is it simply because lesbians together are asthetically pleasing to an onlooker straight male (hence their use in porn etc)?

I was just wondering what exactly is the mentality behind those men who seemingly won't tolerate gay men?

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:41 pm

Lezzers are awesome!

The fake ones in porn films of course - not the real ones who are mainly ugly.

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Post by FluffyBunny on Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:06 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:Lezzers are awesome!

The fake ones in porn films of course - not the real ones who are mainly ugly.

I am grateful for this insightful reply.. ::slap:: 

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:31 pm

It depends on the problem you're talking about

I don't have a problem with gay men, I do have a problem homosexual supremacists

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:40 pm

Some do, most dont however...

That's my opinion anyway...

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:49 pm

There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:54 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

Well since there is research it must be the case

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:57 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

Well since there is research it must be the case

We can do our own research here, smelly, just ask this question honestly. Does this:

Why do straight men have a problem with homosexual men but not gay women? Hot%20guys%20kissing3

... give you a semi? You can tell us, we won't judge you.

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:06 pm

Here's a better test

Are you gay??

If you answered no then you're not gay

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:24 pm

Its every mans dream...being the filling in a lezzie sarnie...... Embarassed 

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Post by eddie on Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:40 pm

Actually Ben, out of interest, are you gay?
Never gave it much consideration before.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:49 pm

eddie wrote:Actually Ben, out of interest, are you gay?
Never gave it much consideration before.

No, I take up for gay people's rights, but I've always been into the chicas Smile

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Post by eddie on Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:53 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
eddie wrote:Actually Ben, out of interest, are you gay?
Never gave it much consideration before.

No, I take up for gay people's rights, but I've always been into the chicas Smile

I thought so.
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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:53 pm

Sorry, it's Spanish slang for pretty woman Smile

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:16 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

Well since there is research it must be the case

We can do our own research here, smelly, just ask this question honestly. Does this:

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... give you a semi? You can tell us, we won't judge you.

I expect latent gay attraction is the reason some people homophobic. It doesn't make sense as the only reason imo.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:23 pm

lovedust wrote:
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smelly_bandit wrote:

Well since there is research it must be the case

We can do our own research here, smelly, just ask this question honestly. Does this:

Why do straight men have a problem with homosexual men but not gay women? Hot%20guys%20kissing3

... give you a semi? You can tell us, we won't judge you.

I expect latent gay attraction is the reason some people homophobic. It doesn't make sense as the only reason imo.

It's probably not -- I suspect that a lot of people are just really, really scared of people who don't look, think, talk and act exactly the same way they do. In fact, I can pretty much confirm that just by hanging out here for a while  :::grouch:: :::grouch:: :::grouch:: 

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:28 pm

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I expect latent gay attraction is the reason some people homophobic. It doesn't make sense as the only reason imo.

It's probably not -- I suspect that a lot of people are just really, really scared of people who don't look, think, talk and act exactly the same way they do. In fact, I can pretty much confirm that just by hanging out here for a while  :::grouch:: :::grouch:: :::grouch:: 

That's describes you perfectly

You constantly label and pigeon hole anyone who has a different opinion in race religion sex sexuality and creed than you do

In order that would be racist,islamophope,sexist,homophobe and bigot

You really should learn some tolerance Ben

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:31 pm

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lovedust wrote:

I expect latent gay attraction is the reason some people homophobic. It doesn't make sense as the only reason imo.

It's probably not -- I suspect that a lot of people are just really, really scared of people who don't look, think, talk and act exactly the same way they do. In fact, I can pretty much confirm that just by hanging out here for a while  :::grouch:: :::grouch:: :::grouch:: 

That's describes you perfectly

You constantly label  and pigeon hole anyone who has a different opinion in race religion sex sexuality and creed than you do

In order that would be racist,islamophope,sexist,homophobe and bigot

You really should learn some tolerance Ben

Ah, smelly, you misunderstand me. I'll talk shit all day long, but I don't care if you hate gay people or black people or whatever, as long as you leave them in peace when they leave you in peace. I do have a horrible intolerance of intolerance (and I suspect a touch of lactose intolerance), but I'm not going to go thought police on you  ::D:: 

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:32 pm

Oh, and I don't think I've ever heard of an islamaphope before -- is that like the Muslim pope?

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:33 pm

its the liberalist progressive's way smelly...cut em some slack, they cant help it...Its their religion...

I mean...I dont agree with you that often, but apparantly you and I are now twins....... ::rfth:: ::rfth:: 

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:34 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:its the liberalist progressive's way smelly...cut em some slack, they cant help it...Its their religion...

Yep, every weekend we congregate and sing Lady Gaga songs. You should come!

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:52 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:its the liberalist progressive's way smelly...cut em some slack, they cant help it...Its their religion...

Yep, every weekend we congregate and sing Lady Gaga songs. You should come!

Tbf she wore a costume made out of meat and that is wronger than a wrong thing on a wrong day.

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:53 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:its the liberalist progressive's way smelly...cut em some slack, they cant help it...Its their religion...

Yep, every weekend we congregate and sing Lady Gaga songs. You should come!

I would have thought that given the "collective" mindset of the "progressive" this would have been nearer your anthem




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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:54 pm

lovedust wrote:
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Yep, every weekend we congregate and sing Lady Gaga songs. You should come!

Tbf she wore a costume made out of meat and that is wronger than a wrong thing on a wrong day.

In fact ...you might say thats just.........wrong....

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:29 pm

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:46 pm

Would you care to explain?

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:52 pm

SIX HIRB is Dennis Prager's acronym for the debate-ending names conservatives are called by liberals. If you disagree with the Left, you are one or all of the following -- Sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, racist, bigoted

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:54 pm

Not 'liberals', 'progressives'!!!!

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Post by Guest on Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:00 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Not 'liberals', 'progressives'!!!!

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Post by Guest on Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:00 am

I'm certainly not 'liberal' and I haven't got a clue what you or Victor mean by 'progressive', but if it means making the world a better place, then I'm progressive.

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better for who though?????

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Post by Tommy Monk on Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:07 am

You don't make things better by making them worse!



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Post by groomsy on Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:41 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Well since there is research it must be the case

We can do our own research here, smelly, just ask this question honestly. Does this:

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Post by Guest on Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:44 am

lovedust wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

We can do our own research here, smelly, just ask this question honestly. Does this:

Why do straight men have a problem with homosexual men but not gay women? Hot%20guys%20kissing3

... give you a semi? You can tell us, we won't judge you.

I expect latent gay attraction is the reason some people homophobic. It doesn't make sense as the only reason imo.

Eww...Muscle Mary's!  Laughing 

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:25 am

victorisnotamused wrote:SIX HIRB is Dennis Prager's acronym for the debate-ending names conservatives are called by liberals. If you disagree with the Left, you are one or all of the following -- Sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, racist, bigoted

Wow, you on the right sure are good at tribal warfare, I'll give you that.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:51 am

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We can do our own research here, smelly, just ask this question honestly. Does this:

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... give you a semi? You can tell us, we won't judge you.

I expect latent gay attraction is the reason some people homophobic. It doesn't make sense as the only reason imo.

Eww...Muscle Mary's!  Laughing 

Hell, those guys might not even be gay -- maybe just in it for the paycheck!

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Post by Guest on Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:54 am

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Eww...Muscle Mary's!  Laughing 

Hell, those guys might not even be gay -- maybe just in it for the paycheck!

There's been plenty of that going on for ages though!

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Post by Guest on Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:57 am

Gay porn etc...It pays more and it's very hard to get into straight porn (apparently)

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:59 am

Lone Wolf wrote:
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It's probably not -- I suspect that a lot of people are just really, really scared of people who don't look, think, talk and act exactly the same way they do. In fact, I can pretty much confirm that just by hanging out here for a while  :::grouch:: :::grouch:: :::grouch:: 


...........You constantly label  and pigeon hole anyone who has a different opinion in race religion sex sexuality and creed than you do

In order that would be racist, islamophope, sexist, homophobe and bigot....

cheers    YOU described yourself oh so perfectly there in that one simple sentence, smelly' !!!

IT IS said that the the first step in helping yourself to heal, is to admit that YOU have those problems that inflct you, your smelliness..

WELL done smelly' !  We're so proud of you today..
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At least he limits himself to pointing out that people call him a racist, sexist, homophobe, etc. when he makes racist, sexist, homophobic etc. statements.

Apparently now, every time someone on the left disagrees with someone on the right, we always always always call them racists, homophobes, sexists, etc.!

Fucking ninnies. I call them scaredy-pants wimps, too, but they won't acknowledge that!

Oh, and on my side is the Almighty God of Science Smile

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:59 am

Catman wrote:Gay porn etc...It pays more and it's very hard to get into straight porn (apparently)

Heh-heh, you said "it's very hard"  Laughing 

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Catman wrote:Gay porn etc...It pays more and it's very hard to get into straight porn (apparently)

Heh-heh, you said "it's very hard"  Laughing 

Tis...What i've heard, when the models have been interviewed!  Laughing 

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Catman wrote:Gay porn etc...It pays more and it's very hard to get into straight porn (apparently)

Heh-heh, you said "it's very hard"  Laughing 

Tis...What i've heard, when the models have been interviewed!  Laughing 

Actually I've heard the same thing  ::D:: 

Not too great a job either!


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Tis...What i've heard, when the models have been interviewed!  Laughing 

Actually I've heard the same thing  ::D:: 

Not too great a job either!



.....Anything to earn a crust, i would suppose...Certainly, i wouldn't have had the confidence to do that, when i was young....But i wouldn't have held the situation that some people get in, where they have the confidence, and just get on with it.

....I had a convo with Doug last night, we watch porn together, or rather he looks to see what i'm watching on my laptop from time to time  ::D:: ...He said 'why didn't you ever do it'....I said because i always had another source of money, and i couldn't have done it anyway, because i've always been very reserved!  Razz 

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Post by veya_victaous on Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:02 pm

LOLZ @ Catmans new avatar  cat ::rambo:: 

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regarding lesbians, biologically I think it is because they cant breed by themselves so not actually a threat, possibly a good thing evolutionary (from guy perspective) as you might get to impregnate 2 women then bugger off and your offspring would still have a pair of adult carers. Socially, yeah probably aesthetics  Wink 

In reality Gay men are actually easier to get along with than lesbians  Rolling Eyes 

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Post by FluffyBunny on Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:33 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

Lol  flower 

I think also it is difficult for older men to accept gay people as its a generation thing,my grandfather for example just couldn't get along with it but he didn't like the concept of gay women either.

Since I have been posting on forums I have encountered a few homophobic posters (not on this forum i hasten to add!!) and I don't think they are secretly gay.

I think they genuinely loathe gay men and I find that a pretty disgusting attitude but wanted to try and understand the mentality.

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Post by FluffyBunny on Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:35 am

veya_victaous wrote:LOLZ @ Catmans new avatar  cat ::rambo:: 

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regarding lesbians, biologically I think it is because they cant breed by themselves so not actually a threat, possibly a good thing evolutionary (from guy perspective) as you might get to impregnate 2 women then bugger off and your offspring would still have a pair of adult carers.  Socially, yeah probably aesthetics  Wink 

In reality Gay men are actually easier to get along with than lesbians  Rolling Eyes 

That makes sense from a biological point of view.

I'm not sure about your last sentence...! Wink 

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:58 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

rubbish unless this means also that those who hate Christians are really seeking and desire God .

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Ben_Reilly wrote:There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."


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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:03 pm

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Ben_Reilly wrote:There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

rubbish unless this means also that those who hate Christians are really seeking and desire God .

lol its wishful thinking on the part of the tiny minority that they think the vast majority of normal people want to be gay..lol

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