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Post by Thorin on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:25 am

Jeremy Corbyn's most ardent supporters are more likely to be anti-Semitic than those of other party leaders, according to the first analysis of its kind.

A YouGov poll found that more than one in three (35 per cent) of those who "strongly like" the Labour leader agreed with four or more statements deemed to be anti-Semitic, while 58 per cent held two more more such views.

The proportion of ardent supporters of Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Jo Swinson who agreed with four or more of the statements was significantly less, at 24 per cent, 21 per cent and 18 per cent respectively.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/30/jeremy-corbyns-ardent-supporters-likely-anti-semitic/


Nothing new here, I found out yesterday how antisemitic labour supporters are.


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Post by Eilzel on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:30 am

phildidge wrote:Jeremy Corbyn's most ardent supporters are more likely to be anti-Semitic than those of other party leaders, according to the first analysis of its kind.

A YouGov poll found that more than one in three (35 per cent) of those who "strongly like" the Labour leader agreed with four or more statements deemed to be anti-Semitic, while 58 per cent held two more more such views.

The proportion of ardent supporters of Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Jo Swinson who agreed with four or more of the statements was significantly less, at 24 per cent, 21 per cent and 18 per cent respectively.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/30/jeremy-corbyns-ardent-supporters-likely-anti-semitic/


Nothing new here, I found out yesterday how antisemitic labour supporters are.


Really, who were they?

It is sad so many anti-Semitic people are drawn to Corbyn, his stance on Israel is likely to reason.

However, I'm am almost certain if you did a check on which party's supporters were more likely to be racist or xenophobic or even homophobic, they results would likely come back Tory and Brexit Party, mostly the latter but quite a few the former too.

It proves nothing. A minority of supporters of all parties are naturally going to be cnuts. The world is in no short supply of those.

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Post by Thorin on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:34 am

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phildidge wrote:Jeremy Corbyn's most ardent supporters are more likely to be anti-Semitic than those of other party leaders, according to the first analysis of its kind.

A YouGov poll found that more than one in three (35 per cent) of those who "strongly like" the Labour leader agreed with four or more statements deemed to be anti-Semitic, while 58 per cent held two more more such views.

The proportion of ardent supporters of Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Jo Swinson who agreed with four or more of the statements was significantly less, at 24 per cent, 21 per cent and 18 per cent respectively.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/30/jeremy-corbyns-ardent-supporters-likely-anti-semitic/


Nothing new here, I found out yesterday how antisemitic labour supporters are.


Really, who were they?

It is sad so many anti-Semitic people are drawn to Corbyn, his stance on Israel is likely to reason.

However, I'm am almost certain if you did a check on which party's supporters were more likely to be racist or xenophobic or even homophobic, they results would likely come back Tory and Brexit Party, mostly the latter but quite a few the former too.

It proves nothing. A minority of supporters of all parties are naturally going to be cnuts. The world is in no short supply of those.


Here you go, its not enought the case that Labour has many antisemitic supporters. but he uses whataboutism again to deflect away from this

His hate of Israel any Israeli Jews is a major part of the issue

That is racism

Thje reality is you are supporting antisemitism

Again you place socialism above Jews

That mreans you place your beliefs above the protection of Jews

Just as the Germans did when they voted for Hitler

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Post by Eilzel on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:42 am

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Eilzel wrote:
phildidge wrote:Jeremy Corbyn's most ardent supporters are more likely to be anti-Semitic than those of other party leaders, according to the first analysis of its kind.

A YouGov poll found that more than one in three (35 per cent) of those who "strongly like" the Labour leader agreed with four or more statements deemed to be anti-Semitic, while 58 per cent held two more more such views.

The proportion of ardent supporters of Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Jo Swinson who agreed with four or more of the statements was significantly less, at 24 per cent, 21 per cent and 18 per cent respectively.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/30/jeremy-corbyns-ardent-supporters-likely-anti-semitic/


Nothing new here, I found out yesterday how antisemitic labour supporters are.


Really, who were they?

It is sad so many anti-Semitic people are drawn to Corbyn, his stance on Israel is likely to reason.

However, I'm am almost certain if you did a check on which party's supporters were more likely to be racist or xenophobic or even homophobic, they results would likely come back Tory and Brexit Party, mostly the latter but quite a few the former too.

It proves nothing. A minority of supporters of all parties are naturally going to be cnuts. The world is in no short supply of those.


Here you go, its not enought the case that Labour has many antisemitic supporters. but he uses whataboutism again to deflect away from this

His hate of Israel any Israeli Jews is a major part of the issue

That is racism

Thje reality is you are supporting antisemitism

Again you place socialism above Jews

That mreans you place your beliefs above the protection of Jews

Just as the Germans did when they voted for Hitler

My main point there was that while you'll find more anti-Semitism among some Labour supporters, you'll find more racism (of other groups) among Tory and Brexit voters.

Both are bad. You only focus on one.

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Post by Thorin on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:48 am

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phildidge wrote:


Here you go, its not enought the case that Labour has many antisemitic supporters. but he uses whataboutism again to deflect away from this

His hate of Israel any Israeli Jews is a major part of the issue

That is racism

Thje reality is you are supporting antisemitism

Again you place socialism above Jews

That mreans you place your beliefs above the protection of Jews

Just as the Germans did when they voted for Hitler

My main point there was that while you'll find more anti-Semitism among some Labour supporters, you'll find more racism (of other groups) among Tory and Brexit voters.

Both are bad. You only focus on one.

Really and you based this on what imaginary stats?

I do not see gay people or any other group afraid of the Tories. Do you?

84% Jews believe Labour is antisemitic; 87% that Corbyn is antisemitic; 93% won’t vote Labour.

Can you provide such stats for any other minority group?


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Post by Eilzel on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:53 am

phildidge wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
phildidge wrote:


Here you go, its not enought the case that Labour has many antisemitic supporters. but he uses whataboutism again to deflect away from this

His hate of Israel any Israeli Jews is a major part of the issue

That is racism

Thje reality is you are supporting antisemitism

Again you place socialism above Jews

That mreans you place your beliefs above the protection of Jews

Just as the Germans did when they voted for Hitler

My main point there was that while you'll find more anti-Semitism among some Labour supporters, you'll find more racism (of other groups) among Tory and Brexit voters.

Both are bad. You only focus on one.

Really and you based this on what imaginary stats?

I do not see gay people or any other group afraid of the Tories. Do you?

84% Jews believe Labour is antisemitic; 87% that Corbyn is antisemitic; 93% won’t vote Labour.

Can you provide such stats for any other minority group?


Nope. I wonder why only this topic even had such a survey done? It's almost like they wanted to forward an agenda Rolling Eyes

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Post by Thorin on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:55 am

Eilzel wrote:
phildidge wrote:

Really and you based this on what imaginary stats?

I do not see gay people or any other group afraid of the Tories. Do you?

84% Jews believe Labour is antisemitic; 87% that Corbyn is antisemitic; 93% won’t vote Labour.

Can you provide such stats for any other minority group?


Nope. I wonder why only this topic even had such a survey done? It's almost like they wanted to forward an agenda Rolling Eyes

Unbelieveable. So when faced with stats, you think there is an agenda. basically sticking two fingers up to Jews yet again

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Post by Eilzel on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:59 am

phildidge wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
phildidge wrote:

Really and you based this on what imaginary stats?

I do not see gay people or any other group afraid of the Tories. Do you?

84% Jews believe Labour is antisemitic; 87% that Corbyn is antisemitic; 93% won’t vote Labour.

Can you provide such stats for any other minority group?


Nope. I wonder why only this topic even had such a survey done? It's almost like they wanted to forward an agenda Rolling Eyes

Unbelieveable. So when faced with stats, you think there is an agenda. basically sticking two fingers up to Jews yet again

Well, you may not believe this, but according to some twat I was talking to yesterday, I don't care about Jews Sad

BS, I know!

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Post by Thorin on Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:04 am

Eilzel wrote:
phildidge wrote:

Unbelieveable. So when faced with stats, you think there is an agenda. basically sticking two fingers up to Jews yet again

Well, you may not believe this, but according to some twat I was talking to yesterday, I don't care about Jews Sad

BS, I know!

You dont and just proved this

I post an article showing up antisemitism within Labour and you did everything to try to deflect from this

So its not bullshit

Like I say, you continually kkep sticking two finers up to Jews, because you simple do not give two shits about them

All you care about is your socialist dream

How many times in history have people and in different places in history been trampled all over for that said same failed dream?

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Anybody stupid enough to read a susposedly unskewed poll from that well-known level headed and unbiased font of wisdom The Daily Telegraph , really does  need to have their head examined...

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'Wolfie wrote:Jeremy Corbyn's most ardent supporters 'more likely to be anti-Semitic' 3489511464

Anybody stupid enough to read a susposedly unskewed poll from that well-known level headed and unbiased font of wisdom The Daily Telegraph , really does  need to have their head examined...


Is the left wing guardian also biased to you?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/30/antisemitism-poisons-any-good-labour-doing-simon-sebag-montefiore

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Post by Thorin on Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:18 am

Today, Campaign Against Antisemitism is releasing the results of our Antisemitism Barometer research, a multiyear study by Campaign Against Antisemitism which was designed and analysed by one of the foremost academics in his field from King’s College London. The study makes shocking findings about antisemitism in the Labour Party and British society, and how Jews are reacting.

The research has revealed that:


  • Antisemitism on the far-left has overtaken antisemitism on the far-right;



  • Jeremy Corbyn is now the candidate of choice for anti-Jewish racists;



  • Despite claims that Labour’s antisemitism stems from ‘a few bad apples’, two thirds of Jeremy Corbyn’s vanguard of strongest supporters are antisemites;


  • 84% of British Jews feel that Jeremy Corbyn is a threat specifically to the Jewish community;



  • Two in five British Jews have considered emigrating over antisemitism in the past two years alone, 85% of them because of antisemitism in politics, with two thirds expressly naming the Labour Party or Jeremy Corbyn as their reason;



  • Close to two thirds of British Jews believe that the authorities are not doing enough to address and punish antisemitism, and a mere 35% of British Jews felt confident that antisemitic hate crimes against them would be prosecuted, a record low; and



  • Almost half of British Jews believe that the Crown Prosecution Service is doing too little to fight antisemitism.



https://antisemitism.uk/caa-and-kcl-study-finds-far-left-jew-hatred-has-now-overtaken-far-right-in-britain-and-antisemites-make-up-two-thirds-of-corbyns-vanguard-of-strongest-supporters/

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:55 pm

phil wrote:a multiyear study by Campaign Against Antisemitism which was designed and analysed by one of the foremost academics in his field from King’s College London.

And yet you can't name him?? Evil or Very Mad

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Post by 'Wolfie on Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:38 pm

Suspect

"Campaign against Antisemitism".

A.k.a.  the Tory Zionists propaganda machines' main effort to reelect their favourite economic shysters back into power..

Fuck the British economy, fuck the US economy, just as long as the Conservatives keep their goons in there...      By hook or by crook..

Never mind that we're all still waiting for Dodgey to actually drag out some real evidence, to back up his continuous blarney --  and not just more of his shonky surveys..

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Post by nicko on Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:54 pm

Bullshit Wolfie, you know fuck all about it !
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Post by Original Quill on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:05 pm

Seems he struck some sort of true chord, judging by your yowling nick.  Laughing

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:35 pm

'Wolfie wrote:Jeremy Corbyn's most ardent supporters 'more likely to be anti-Semitic' 3489511464

Anybody stupid enough to read a susposedly unskewed poll from that well-known level headed and unbiased font of wisdom The Daily Telegraph , really does  need to have their head examined...

You really don't know a great deal about the British national Press do you, Wolfie?

The Daily Telegraph, and ever more so the Daily Mail, both traditionally and historically support the Conservative and Unionist Party while the Daily Mirror and The Guardian are both long time supporters of Left wing politics and the UK Labour and Co-operative parties (The Guardian ostensibly supports the Lib Dems, though editorially not since the disappearance of the Blairite middle-of-the-road brand of socialism).

If you are so bloody naive as to believe that Daily Mail/Daily Telegraph pollsters don't put a Right wing slant on their findings and that Guardian/Mirror pollsters don't put a Left wing slant on their findings....then may I suggest that you are the one who needs to have his head examined?
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Post by nicko on Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:44 pm

I said he doesn't know what he's talking about half the time,re- British Politics !
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Post by nicko on Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:45 pm

And up your Quill, the same applies !
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phil wrote:a multiyear study by Campaign Against Antisemitism which was designed and analysed by one of the foremost academics in his field from King’s College London.

And yet you can't name him??  Evil or Very Mad

I don't suppose I could name him, either. But I think the fact that there is ample photographic evidence that Corbyn was present and holding a wreath at a ceremony to honour and commemorate the perpetrators of the attack on and murder of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Berlin Olympics; that he proudly proclaimed Hamas terrorists as his "friends" and that one of his own party's Jewish MPs had to have police protection against possible violent attacks by fellow "members" when she attended a Labour conference might, to any reasonably thinking person, lead to the conclusion that under Corbyn the Labour Party is institutionally antiSemitic and racist.
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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:11 pm

nicko wrote:I said he doesn't know what he's talking about half the time,re- British Politics  !

Nicko, when it is a matter of the environment or agriculture I would be the very first to acknowledge Wolfie's pre-eminence, both academically and professionally.

But where it concerns UK constitutional and political matters and, above all, the British national news media - my own home territory - then I can assure you that he knows absolutely fuck all.
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Post by Original Quill on Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:39 pm

It's of little interest and no concern, your politics these days. We are already carrying the heavier load over here.

But it appears to me that y'all are downright tribal in your bias these days. I think Putin is cracking open your eggshell, too.

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Post by Thorin on Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:30 am

Labour’s ‘chilling’ video about supporting minority groups leaves out Jewish community

The Labour Party has been criticised for producing a video about minority groups being valued by the party that leaves out any mention of the Jewish community.

The promotional video which claims “diversity is our greatest strength” is over a minute long and features a speech made by Dawn Butler, the shadow equalities secretary, in which she says Labour will support people who wear “a hijab, turban,” or a “cross.”

Jonathan Goldstein, who is chairman of the Jewish Leadership Council, described the notable lack of mention of the Jewish community as “extraordinary and chilling.”

Speaking to the JC he said: "To deliberately create and promote a video which talks about minority communities in this current climate and not mention the jewish community really shows the blind spot that the Labour Party has.

"It shows they don’t regard the jewish community or antisemitism as equal to other communities or racism of other types. You can not think anything other than that is chilling.


https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/labour-s-chilling-video-about-supporting-minority-groups-leaves-out-jewish-community-1.493750

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