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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:34 pm

Facebook promised to institute a stricter policy on anti-vaccination misinformation in ads back in February, a policy it expanded sitewide in March. That crackdown, however, appears to be penalizing some legitimate healthcare providers while letting some anti-vaccine conspiracies slide, even as the United States faces its largest outbreak of diseases preventable by vaccines in decades.

This month, the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, the state’s official health department, bought 14 ads to promote a statewide program providing free pediatric vaccinations. Facebook removed all of them.

During the same time period, Children’s Health Defense, an anti-vaccine nonprofit founded and chaired by the nation’s most prominent vaccine conspiracy theorist, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., successfully placed more than 10 ads stoking unfounded fear about vaccines and other medical conspiracy theories. Some of the ads skirted around their intent, and some did not: One promised to reveal the truth about the “MMR Vaccine’s Poison Pill”—the commonplace vaccine against mumps, measles, and rubella. It reached between 10,000 and 50,000 people, and Facebook took in between $100 and $500 for the ad.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/facebook-axed-pro-vaccine-ads-from-hospitals-and-health-orgs-let-anti-vaxxer-ads-slip-through

Seriously, this is a big no-no for any giant media company like Facebook. If you run ads from one side, you must run ads from the other.

I think in this case, anti-vax ads probably generate more traffic than pro-vax ads, simply because being pro-vaccination isn't a rebellious stance to take.

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Post by phildidge on Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:39 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Facebook promised to institute a stricter policy on anti-vaccination misinformation in ads back in February, a policy it expanded sitewide in March. That crackdown, however, appears to be penalizing some legitimate healthcare providers while letting some anti-vaccine conspiracies slide, even as the United States faces its largest outbreak of diseases preventable by vaccines in decades.

This month, the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, the state’s official health department, bought 14 ads to promote a statewide program providing free pediatric vaccinations. Facebook removed all of them.

During the same time period, Children’s Health Defense, an anti-vaccine nonprofit founded and chaired by the nation’s most prominent vaccine conspiracy theorist, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., successfully placed more than 10 ads stoking unfounded fear about vaccines and other medical conspiracy theories. Some of the ads skirted around their intent, and some did not: One promised to reveal the truth about the “MMR Vaccine’s Poison Pill”—the commonplace vaccine against mumps, measles, and rubella. It reached between 10,000 and 50,000 people, and Facebook took in between $100 and $500 for the ad.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/facebook-axed-pro-vaccine-ads-from-hospitals-and-health-orgs-let-anti-vaxxer-ads-slip-through

Seriously, this is a big no-no for any giant media company like Facebook. If you run ads from one side, you must run ads from the other.

I think in this case, anti-vax ads probably generate more traffic than pro-vax ads, simply because being pro-vaccination isn't a rebellious stance to take.

I thought you were against fake news?
If an add is based on a lie, why then promote this lie?
Nobody should run adds that are unscienitifc and formed from a view to place fear into people. That could litterally effect the well being of millions of children
A private company should never promote such inscientific views and only do so from the view point to debunk the litteral idiocy that is being used to scare people to not vaccinate

Are you seriously suggesting we should run adds to gay conversion therapy?
That is an add from the other side?

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Post by phildidge on Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:40 pm

phildidge wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/facebook-axed-pro-vaccine-ads-from-hospitals-and-health-orgs-let-anti-vaxxer-ads-slip-through

Seriously, this is a big no-no for any giant media company like Facebook. If you run ads from one side, you must run ads from the other.

I think in this case, anti-vax ads probably generate more traffic than pro-vax ads, simply because being pro-vaccination isn't a rebellious stance to take.

I thought you were against fake news?
If an add is based on a lie, why then promote this lie?
Nobody should run adds that are unscienitifc and formed from a view to place fear into people. That could litterally effect the well being of millions of children
A private company should never promote such inscientific views and only do so from the view point to debunk the litteral idiocy that is being used to scare people to not vaccinate

Are you seriously suggesting we should run adds to gay conversion therapy?
That is an add from the other side?

Oh and by the way.

Vaccines have helped us eradicate another strain of wild polio virus


Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2221113-vaccines-have-helped-us-eradicate-another-strain-of-wild-polio-virus/#ixzz63gAhB84o

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:46 pm

To avoid a perception of bias, a media outlet must either run ads from (for example) gay conversion people and pro-gray groups, or avoid the topic of homosexuality in its advertising altogether.

To do otherwise can sometimes be the speech/advertising version of apartheid -- "your kind isn't welcome here" -- or simply an admission of bias, which media outlets are of course welcome to do.

We sort of do it here, in a way, but I've let everyone know it's my forum and I'm fine with being seen as biased against people who think baking soda cures cancer, for example.

The difference being, we're not Facebook, a private company that has become so ubiquitous that it's on the brink of deserving to be regulated like a utility.

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Post by phildidge on Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:59 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:To avoid a perception of bias, a media outlet must either run ads from (for example) gay conversion people and pro-gray groups, or avoid the topic of homosexuality in its advertising altogether.

To do otherwise can sometimes be the speech/advertising version of apartheid -- "your kind isn't welcome here" -- or simply an admission of bias, which media outlets are of course welcome to do.

We sort of do it here, in a way, but I've let everyone know it's my forum and I'm fine with being seen as biased against people who think baking soda cures cancer, for example.

The difference being, we're not Facebook, a private company that has become so ubiquitous that it's on the brink of deserving to be regulated like a utility.

Come again. So by your reasoning, we should dispell with reason and simple teach any old bullshit in schools?
We should never place this based on academic knowledge and allow people to simple indriduece faith over scienitiic understanding?

Its not a case of a perception bias, when as seen therre is no cure for being gay. To think there is would mean there is something wrong with being gay

Your view has to be the most idiotic and no company is obligated to promote adds, that promote uncientific view points. You see to think that providing an unlabanced view to promote both sides. This requires an obligation. How?

Are you saying that Mosques, now have to teach and promote hinduism, Judaism, Christianity etc, by the Iman?

Is that not forcing people to promote something against their will?

You are a private company that also regulates and supresses freedom of speech

Its why you have mods and rules

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Post by Maddog on Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:00 pm

Facebook put me in jail for posting a pic of fat chick who shit her britches.

They are hardly fair, or uniform in their enforcement of anything. I think they are mostly driven by people who report things, as they can't read everything posted.

I would delete my Facebook account if I gave a shit.

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Post by phildidge on Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:05 pm

Maddog wrote:Facebook put me in jail for posting a pic of fat chick who shit her britches.

They are hardly fair, or uniform in their enforcement of anything. I think they are mostly driven by people who report things, as they can't read everything posted.

I would delete my Facebook account if I gave a shit.      

FB has only one purpose. To be able to contact many relatives and friends

Most social media are unfair and have reall y dumb rules, that often thew worst double standard

I would love to know how Ben wouold feel with an add based on history with the nazis being in control today. Promoting a hateful view of Jews and showing them being gassed, shot etc. Whether he thinks this gives another side of the view point?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:07 pm

Maddog wrote:Facebook put me in jail for posting a pic of fat chick who shit her britches.

They are hardly fair, or uniform in their enforcement of anything. I think they are mostly driven by people who report things, as they can't read everything posted.

I would delete my Facebook account if I gave a shit.      

Surely they have much more scrutiny when it comes to their revenue sources than when it comes to any old post.

Though your description of your post made me laugh aloud (to use proper English).

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