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Post by phildidge on Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:19 pm

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Hundreds of young transgender people are seeking help to return to their original sex, a woman who is setting up a charity has told Sky News.

Charlie Evans, 28, was born female but identified as male for nearly 10 years before detransitioning.

The number of young people seeking gender transition is at an all-time high but we hear very little, if anything, about those who may come to regret their decision.

There is currently no data to reflect the number who may be unhappy in their new gender or who may opt to detransition to their biological sex.

Charlie detransitioned and went public with her story last year - and said she was stunned by the number of people she discovered in a similar position.

"I'm in communication with 19 and 20-year-olds who have had full gender reassignment surgery who wish they hadn't, and their dysphoria hasn't been relieved, they don't feel better for it," she says.


https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-young-trans-people-seeking-help-to-return-to-original-sex-11827740

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:07 pm

Victorismyhero wrote:this whole gender bender issue is politically motivated, part of the left wing marxist ideology...the frankfurt school ...of which the EU is also a part (which is why momentum and its arch participants are so in favor of ruining brexit entirely...) and just as in an extreme R?W situation these extreme lefty's, disguised of course and skulking like hyenas in the dark, dont give a flying f**k about the results of any public poll, unless it suits them.

if you are in any doubt part of the frankfurt school ideology is to pull down western civilisation by ANY means including moral turpitude, encouraging and "normalising" all sorts of things.

Wow! Gender bender issues? Left wing? Political? Marxist? Frankfurt school? EU? Brexit? Disguised? Skulking like hyenas in the dark? Public polls? I think you are conflating a few issues.

But very colorful writing, I must say. Twisted Evil

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Post by Victorismyhero on Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:26 pm

and your reply was like a broken pencil.....pointless

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:46 pm

Victorismyhero wrote:and your reply was like a broken pencil.....pointless

Nevertheless, I notice that it's a reply that you can't answer.  That in itself is a very telling fact.  To fail to refute or even respond is a tacit admission to the truth of the matter being asserted.

At the very least, your post is confused and conflates many diverse subjects that have no apparent connection.  If you don't want me to fill in the gaps for you, you'd better do it yourself.

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Post by Lurker on Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:26 am

I don't know why conservatives are so terrified of LGBTQ human beings. They would never bust a conservative's balls. Conservatives can't wrap their tiny brains around someone who isn't exactly like them and it terrifies them. LGBTQ humans do EXIST! They are born that way and they are trying to survive and be productive human beings just like conservatives. Their sexuality is none of ANYBODY'S BUSINESS!

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Post by Victorismyhero on Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:30 am

and lurker...I suggest YOU look at your own avatar.......

NO ONE is saying that those with GENUINE lgbt issues should be denied whatever treatment helps...BUT ...it SHOULD NOT be there to be handed out like sweeties to kids

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Post by Victorismyhero on Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:33 am

as for you QUILL....the point I was making is that its ALL interlinked...all part of that frankfurt school ideology and agenda. Which quite brazenly states that the only way to get the marxist socialist utopia (hah!) is to destroy the decadent west by whatever means possible, but from within....


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Post by Victorismyhero on Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:12 am

a mate of mine is very very fat, but (he says) he identifies as "slim".................apparently he is trans slender Shocked

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Post by phildidge on Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:13 am

Lurker wrote:I don't know why conservatives are so terrified of LGBTQ human beings. They would never bust a conservative's balls. Conservatives can't wrap their tiny brains around someone who isn't exactly like them and it terrifies them. LGBTQ humans do EXIST! They are born that way and they are trying to survive and be productive human beings just like conservatives. Their sexuality is none of ANYBODY'S BUSINESS!

What conservatives on here and what people going on about people sexuality?

Transgenderism is not something people are born with nor is it a sexuality

Some people suffer with gender dysphoria

Maybe you need to learn what people are talking about and how many here are concerned with safeguarding children.
People can do what they like as adults and that is their choice. The issue here is people medicating children based off a view to claim children are transegnder based offg poor setroptyical gender views of females and males. That if a girls is a tom boy, they are being led to believe they are transgender. No child understands who they are as a sex at least until they are around 10. So for people to claim 3 year olds are transgender is fucking absurd and disturbing. As its generally the parents pushing this belief onto the child.

You may not want to protect and safeguard children, but i do from medical treatments thyat harm them. Which where many kids often grow oiut of gender dysphoria through puberty. Who by the way often grow up to find they are gay. Would through such poor medicating. Go onto believe they are the opposite sex and straight. Hencew a form of conversion therapy of gay people, but I guess that is okay in your book they to use conversion thearpy on gay children is it? Let alone all the potential harm of these drugs being used on growing children.

So stop inventing bullshit around sexuality, when nobody has made said views, when I have always fought for gay rights. What is coming under attack by trans ideology is gay and womens rights, but I guess that is also okay with you.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:19 am

Victorismyhero wrote:as for you QUILL....the point I was making is that its ALL interlinked...all part of that frankfurt school ideology and agenda. Which quite brazenly states that the only way to get the marxist socialist utopia (hah!) is to destroy the decadent west by whatever means possible, but from within....

And this is...believable? My point is that you've got a lot of connecting up to do. What is the 'Frankfurt school ideology' and what is your point? Whatever it is, I'm not an advocate until I know about it.

Fuck it. I'll talk about Marx, but some fantasy shit has nothing to do with me. Bring it home, or forget it, Vic.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:57 pm

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Victorismyhero wrote:as for you QUILL....the point I was making is that its ALL interlinked...all part of that frankfurt school ideology and agenda. Which quite brazenly states that the only way to get the marxist socialist utopia (hah!) is to destroy the decadent west by whatever means possible, but from within....

And this is...believable?  My point is that you've got a lot of connecting up to do.  What is the 'Frankfurt school ideology' and what is your point?  Whatever it is, I'm not an advocate until I know about it.

Fuck it.  I'll talk about Marx, but some fantasy shit has nothing to do with me.  Bring it home, or forget it, Vic.

It's conspiracy bullshit, Quill:

Wikipedia wrote:In 1998 Weyrich presented his version of the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory in a speech to the Conservative Leadership Conference of the Civitas Institute and then published the speech in his syndicated Culture war letter.[55] At Weyrich's request, William S. Lind wrote a short history of his conception of Cultural Marxism for the Free Congress Foundation; in it Lind identifies the presence of openly gay people on television as proof of Cultural Marxist control over the mass media and claims that Herbert Marcuse considered a coalition of "blacks, students, feminist women, and homosexuals" as a vanguard of cultural revolution.[50][51][56]

In 2014 Lind pseudonymously published Victoria: A Novel of 4th Generation Warfare, by Thomas Hobbes, about a societal apocalypse in which Cultural Marxism deposes traditional conservatism as the culture of the Western world. Ultimately, a Christian military victory deposes social liberalism and reestablishes a traditionalist and theocratic socioeconomic order based upon British Victorian morality of the late 19th century.[57][58] The anti–Marxism of Lind and Weyrich advocates political confrontation and intellectual opposition to Cultural Marxism with "a vibrant cultural conservatism" composed of "retro-culture fashions", a return to railroads as public transport, and an agrarian culture of self-reliance, modeled after that of the Christian Amish folk.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:23 am

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And this is...believable?  My point is that you've got a lot of connecting up to do.  What is the 'Frankfurt school ideology' and what is your point?  Whatever it is, I'm not an advocate until I know about it.

Fuck it.  I'll talk about Marx, but some fantasy shit has nothing to do with me.  Bring it home, or forget it, Vic.

It's conspiracy bullshit, Quill:

Wikipedia wrote:In 1998 Weyrich presented his version of the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory in a speech to the Conservative Leadership Conference of the Civitas Institute and then published the speech in his syndicated Culture war letter.[55] At Weyrich's request, William S. Lind wrote a short history of his conception of Cultural Marxism for the Free Congress Foundation; in it Lind identifies the presence of openly gay people on television as proof of Cultural Marxist control over the mass media and claims that Herbert Marcuse considered a coalition of "blacks, students, feminist women, and homosexuals" as a vanguard of cultural revolution.[50][51][56]

In 2014 Lind pseudonymously published Victoria: A Novel of 4th Generation Warfare, by Thomas Hobbes, about a societal apocalypse in which Cultural Marxism deposes traditional conservatism as the culture of the Western world. Ultimately, a Christian military victory deposes social liberalism and reestablishes a traditionalist and theocratic socioeconomic order based upon British Victorian morality of the late 19th century.[57][58] The anti–Marxism of Lind and Weyrich advocates political confrontation and intellectual opposition to Cultural Marxism with "a vibrant cultural conservatism" composed of "retro-culture fashions", a return to railroads as public transport, and an agrarian culture of self-reliance, modeled after that of the Christian Amish folk.

Yes, I gathered it was alt.truth bullshiet.  The only Thomas Hobbes I know about died in December 4, 1679, at Derbyshire, England.  He was an early-modern political theorist, and I wrote my PhD dissertation partly about him.

I appreciate the heads-up about the wacko re-iteration of Hobbes, but it's not something I'm going to go into that deeply.  I still don't know what Victor is on about.  Does he take this alt.truth shite seriously?  Exactly, how is Vic involved...or what is he saying about this nonsense?

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