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Post by phildidge on Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:53 pm

New York Times reporters Robin Pogrebin and Kate Kelly told a liberal TV host that their editors at the newspaper were to blame for the failure to include the most important detail in their story announcing a supposedly new misconduct allegation against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. That key detail was that the alleged victim had never made a claim against Kavanaugh and had told several friends she could recall no such incident as described by the reporters. But audio evidence shows they went out of their way to leave the key detail out of a lengthy interview about the book that they recorded last Thursday.

In a friendly interview with MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell last night, Pogrebin threw their editors under the bus:


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Robin Pogrebin and Kate Kelly claim that the qualifier about the other alleged Kavanaugh accuser not remembering an incident at Yale was included in the initial NYT draft but removed.



https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/17/times-reporters-also-omitted-key-kavanaugh-detail-in-npr-interview/

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:10 pm

phil wrote:That key detail was that the alleged victim had never made a claim against Kavanaugh and had told several friends she could recall no such incident as described by the reporters.

Yes, she was nearly passed out with alcohol, poor girl. (Kavanaugh seems to live among booze and sexual assault stories...interesting.) Many crimes don't have victim testimony...particularly when the victim is not conscious.

But the Times was right in going with the story. All you need is one witness...and they had 7 or 8 witnesses, all of whom said they saw it.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:16 pm

One person claims Kavanagh got his dick out, the girl in question says its made up crap

Quill as per usual invents bollocks into the scenario and wants to judge and convict an innocent man. This is why he has neever been a judge or a lawyer, because no lawyer in their right muin would make up the crap that quill continues to do.

The media deliberatelty omitted her from saying this invent never happened while she was there and states nothing about being drunk

As usual quill sinks to new levels of lying it seems

This is why the fuckwit is continually on ignore



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Post by Original Quill on Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:36 pm

phil wrote:One person claims Kavanagh got his dick out, the girl in question says its made up crap

No she doesn't, you lying sack o' sheit.   More Fake news made against Judge Kavannagh 3408175593     You just quoted in your C&P that she didn't remember.  She said, and I quote you, "she could recall no such incident ..."

This is how RW'ers go wrong.  They stretch facts to fit their needs, instead of their needs fitting the facts.  This is a classic example of RW fantasy. More Fake news made against Judge Kavannagh 1716015268

And, of course, this RW'er totally omits the other witnesses.  But fear not, as I have posted elsewhere, the FBI tailored their investigation to omit those witnesses from the start.

One thing that Trump says is true: the FBI is a faux organization and should be disbanded.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:45 pm

And when Quill has been exposed for lying he goes into complete fuckwit mode

Quelle surprise

One thing I know, if Quill was a lawyer, he no doubt made his monet through lying through his back teeth in court to make his money

That is evident when he claimed the witness here had to be drunk

He fails to also see he is conflating another allegation, but then the man is as thick as fuck and constantly lies through his teeth and even worse thasn trump for doing so]


I shall leave for the rest of the forum, who clearly are not lywing wankers like quill to digest

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:50 pm

phildidge wrote:And when Quill has been exposed for lying he goes into complete fuckwit mode

Quelle surprise

One thing I know, if Quill was a lawyer, he no doubt made his monet through lying through his back teeth in court to make his money

That is evident when he claimed the witness here had to be drunk

He fails to also see he is conflating another allegation, but then the man is as thick as fuck and constantly lies through his teeth and even worse thasn trump for doing so]


I shall leave for the rest of the forum, who clearly are not lywing wankers like quill to digest

Okay you don’t have to get personal...

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Post by phildidge on Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:52 pm

eddie wrote:
phildidge wrote:And when Quill has been exposed for lying he goes into complete fuckwit mode

Quelle surprise

One thing I know, if Quill was a lawyer, he no doubt made his monet through lying through his back teeth in court to make his money

That is evident when he claimed the witness here had to be drunk

He fails to also see he is conflating another allegation, but then the man is as thick as fuck and constantly lies through his teeth and even worse thasn trump for doing so]


I shall leave for the rest of the forum, who clearly are not lywing wankers like quill to digest

Okay you don’t have to get personal...

Actually I do when he blatantly lies

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:56 pm

No you can just debate with him.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:57 pm

eddie wrote:No you can just debate with him.

No thanks, I dont debate liars and imbicilles hence his on ignore

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:59 pm

phildidge wrote:
eddie wrote:No you can just debate with him.

No thanks, I dont debate liars and imbicilles hence his on ignore

Okay that's your prerogative. I don’t much see the point of the ignore button on a debate forum, but it’s your choice.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:59 pm

phil wrote:One thing I know, if Quill was a lawyer, he no doubt made his monet through lying through his back teeth in court to make his money

The only Monet I have is a reproduction of one of the series of Water Lillies (1920-22). And it was given to me by a girlfriend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Lilies_(Monet_series)

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Post by phildidge on Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:02 pm

eddie wrote:
phildidge wrote:

No thanks, I dont debate liars and imbicilles hence his on ignore

Okay that's your prerogative. I don’t much see the point of the ignore button on a debate forum, but it’s your choice.

Not using the ignore button and never have

I simple will npot engage him in debate when he acts like a complete dummy

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:05 pm

eddie wrote:
phildidge wrote:

No thanks, I dont debate liars and imbicilles hence his on ignore

Okay that's your prerogative. I don’t much see the point of the ignore button on a debate forum, but it’s your choice.

He gets pissy when he's proven wrong. You've caught him in one of those moods. It's his way of hiding himself from reality.

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:32 pm

phildidge wrote:
eddie wrote:
phildidge wrote:

No thanks, I dont debate liars and imbicilles hence his on ignore

Okay that's your prerogative. I don’t much see the point of the ignore button on a debate forum, but it’s your choice.

Not using the ignore button and never have

I simple will npot engage him in debate when he acts like a complete dummy


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Post by phildidge on Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:33 pm

What a patronizing quote

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Post by gelico on Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:42 pm

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phil wrote:That key detail was that the alleged victim had never made a claim against Kavanaugh and had told several friends she could recall no such incident as described by the reporters.

Yes, she was nearly passed out with alcohol, poor girl.  (Kavanaugh seems to live among booze and sexual assault stories...interesting.)  Many crimes don't have victim testimony...particularly when the victim is not conscious.

But the Times was right in going with the story.  All you need is one witness...and they had 7 or 8 witnesses, all of whom said they saw it.


''passed out with alcohol''? erm, says who? there is no mention of her being drunk, much less unconscious.

they did not have 7 or 8 witnesses at all. this allegation was made by ONE person, Max Stier. Not one single person out of this so called ''group of friends'' has confirmed this and the alleged victim says she certainly doesn't remember any such incident.

tut tut quill

you really should know better

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Post by gelico on Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:44 pm

phildidge wrote:What a patronizing quote


makes sense though, no?

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Post by phildidge on Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:46 pm

gelico wrote:
phildidge wrote:What a patronizing quote


makes sense though, no?

No, as every person uses emotion over intelligence to be with the person they love

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:58 pm

gelico wrote:
phildidge wrote:What a patronizing quote


makes sense though, no?

Of course it does within the context of where I posted it.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:35 pm

gelico wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Yes, she was nearly passed out with alcohol, poor girl.  (Kavanaugh seems to live among booze and sexual assault stories...interesting.)  Many crimes don't have victim testimony...particularly when the victim is not conscious.

But the Times was right in going with the story.  All you need is one witness...and they had 7 or 8 witnesses, all of whom said they saw it.


''passed out with alcohol''? erm, says who?  there is no mention of her being drunk, much less unconscious.

That's what all the witnesses say…she was drunk.  There were many witnesses, it was a party.  Max Stier was the only one who stepped forward and volunteered he was a witness.  Most of the witnesses were a part of Kavanaugh's gang of friends, who tried to blend into the wallpaper when this happened.  Stier was the one who came forward...and the FBI refused to interview him.

What you have, gels, is the sanitized version put out by the FBI.  They don't like to admit that they curtailed their investigation.  See, NYT news report, in Another FBI Cover-up, posted in Politics US/Canada section.

There were many witnesses, but the FBI was ordered by the Administration to speak in vague terms to obscure that fact, as well as the fact that they failed to interview them. When caught, the FBI claimed they didn't have enough time. Weak excuse. Put a few more agents on it, FCS. Or, what's the rush anyway? It's an investigation for a Supreme Court Justice. What, not important enough? Rolling Eyes

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:46 pm

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What you have, gels, is the sanitized version put out by the FBI. They don't like to admit that they curtailed their investigation. See, NYT news report, in Another FBI Cover-up, posted in Politics US/Canada section.

You sound more like an alternate-truth-seeker with every day that passes. That’s not a criticism by the way but I’ve noticed you have changed lately.

If I’d have said that sort of thing, (and I often have in the past), I’d have been called a conspiracy theorist.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:59 pm

eddie wrote:Quill wrote:
What you have, gels, is the sanitized version put out by the FBI. They don't like to admit that they curtailed their investigation. See, NYT news report, in Another FBI Cover-up, posted in Politics US/Canada section.

You sound more like an alternate-truth-seeker with every day that passes. That’s not a criticism by the way but I’ve noticed you have changed lately.

If I’d have said that sort of thing, (and I often have in the past), I’d have been called a conspiracy theorist.

Nonsense. What has changed is that a narcissistic demagogue has taken over the US government. (Ask your husband.) That is what has changed.

I continue to report on the facts, and debunk whichever side lies, left or right. Of course my message has changed; the story has changed. When you have a man of honesty and integrity in the WH, you praise him. When you have a lying, flimflam man in the WH, the stories take on a negative tone. It's hardly my fault.

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:15 pm

Hahahaha. It’s always been that way, it’s only because you truly hate your president that you’re delving.

About time.

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Post by phildidge on Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:48 am

eddie wrote:Quill wrote:
What you have, gels, is the sanitized version put out by the FBI.  They don't like to admit that they curtailed their investigation.  See, NYT news report, in Another FBI Cover-up, posted in Politics US/Canada section.

You sound more like an alternate-truth-seeker with every day that passes. That’s not a criticism by the way but I’ve noticed you have changed lately.

If I’d have said that sort of thing, (and I often have in the past), I’d have been called a conspiracy theorist.  

No its simple yet another example of both gelico and myself able to read what has been stated about this instance and quill. Like I say making a load of bullshit up. Mainly as he is conflating two seperate events.

This is coming from the latest book that was an investigation of the claims around Kavannaugh. They interviewed one of the claimed victims of this. Who out right stated this event never happened. No mention of being drunk or anything like this. Quill made it up because again he constantly lies and does not know a damn thing about justice in the US it seems

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:36 am

eddie wrote:Hahahaha. It’s always been that way, it’s only because you truly hate your president that you’re delving.

About time.

Hey. If you don't think crime can happen, then be honest. Release all criminals. If, however, you still believe in the law...this guys a criminal. You can't have it both ways, eds.

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