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Post by phildidge on Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:36 pm

Anyone heard from Vintage?

See does not seem to be online of late. Hope she is okay.

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Post by nicko on Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:13 pm

She's had enough of lefty posters ?
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Post by Andy on Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:24 pm

Can't you count Rambo?
Left of centre. Quill, Wolfie, myself.Ben, Lurker, Les, Jules ( who rarely posts now)

Right or further right. Rambo, Didge, Fred, Tommy, Eddie, Vic, Gels, Maddog, The Devil You Know, HT, Syl, Raggs, Magica,
. I could add to that list, but you would struggle to add to the left wing list.


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Post by phildidge on Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:36 pm

Andy wrong as per usual as i am center left on social issues and center right of economics

Lurker is left
Veya is left
Cass is left wing
HT and Syl, Magica are center left and right dependent on the issues, so is gelico, so is Fred. Though the later two lean more right wing
Maddog is a libertarian, center
Eddie is left and right wing on views, many left

So as per usual Andy is talking out of his backside

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:50 pm

Andy wrote:Can't you count Rambo?
Left of centre. Quill, Wolfie, myself.Ben, Lurker, Les, Jules ( who rarely posts now)

Right or further right. Rambo, Didge, Fred, Tommy, Eddie, Vic, Gels, Maddog, The Devil You Know, HT, Syl, Raggs, Magica,
. I could add to that list, but you would struggle to add to the left wing list.

I really don't consider eddie right wing at all, and I think I must know her better than you, right?

She really just thinks what she thinks and doesn't really worry about whether her views fall into one camp or the other. They do usually end up being rather lefty, though.

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Post by eddie on Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:02 pm

Okay Andy, time for you to put your money where your mouth is. What are my views on the following:

Gay people
Racism
The Hijab and Bhurka
Gun control
Global warming
Immigration
Eastern European’s in England


Also, never voted tories in my life (nor labour) I’ve always voted......what party, Andy? Do you know?

Also, did one of those online “Which party are you?” questionnaires and was more left than which poster?

I consider myself of no label but I’m interested to see exactly how well you know me.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:26 am

phildidge wrote:Andy wrong as per usual as i am center left on social issues and center right of economics

Lurker is left
Veya is left
Cass is left wing
HT and Syl, Magica are center left and right dependent on the issues, so is gelico, so is Fred. Though the later two lean more right wing
Maddog is a libertarian, center
Eddie is left and right wing on views, many left

So as per usual Andy is talking out of his backside

Laughing

Horatio, gelico and Fred left-leaning ???     You are truly delusional today, Didge..

And Maddog ?  Even he himself would probably admit to being a centre-right redneck  ?

Then again, you often label Ben, Quill, veya and myself as rabid "Marxists" when you don't have any better comebacks..

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Post by 'Wolfie on Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:34 am

nicko wrote:She's had enough of lefty posters ?

Laughing

Why would that be ?

Considering that she is one of those twats who occasionally instigates attacks on left wingers on here, only ever copping abuse in return -- and not to start with..

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Post by phildidge on Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:16 am

'Wolfie wrote:
phildidge wrote:Andy wrong as per usual as i am center left on social issues and center right of economics

Lurker is left
Veya is left
Cass is left wing
HT and Syl, Magica are center left and right dependent on the issues, so is gelico, so is Fred. Though the later two lean more right wing
Maddog is a libertarian, center
Eddie is left and right wing on views, many left

So as per usual Andy is talking out of his backside

Laughing

Horatio, gelico and Fred left-leaning ???     You are truly delusional today, Didge..

And Maddog ?  Even he himself would probably admit to being a centre-right redneck  ?

Then again, you often label Ben, Quill, veya and myself as rabid "Marxists" when you don't have any better comebacks..

Well that shows you have not the first clue about the political leanings of people

I have never labelled Ben a Marxist

Maddog is again a Libertarian

I said HT gelico and Fred have views that lean left and right but more so to the right

So maybe this is again another sign of the left being blind as a bat

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Post by eddie on Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:39 pm

eddie wrote:Okay Andy, time for you to put your money where your mouth is. What are my views on the following:

Gay people
Racism
The Hijab and Bhurka
Gun control
Global warming
Immigration
Eastern European’s in England


Also, never voted tories in my life (nor labour) I’ve always voted......what party, Andy? Do you know?

Also, did one of those online “Which party are you?” questionnaires and was  more left than which poster?

I consider myself of no label but I’m interested to see exactly how well you know me.


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Post by Andy on Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:35 pm

eddie wrote:Okay Andy, time for you to put your money where your mouth is. What are my views on the following:

Gay people - no problem. I have gay friends

Racism - hate it. Lots of non UK friends

The Hijab and Bhurka - not a problem, but should unveil on demand in security situations, banks, airports etc.

Gun control - keep them all prohibited in UK,

Global warming - more serious than most think. Verging on catastrophic. Tell Tommy the facts, he is too dumb to even read.

Immigration , Non EU, points based system. EU, free movement. Reciprocated by Europe
Eastern European’s in England .

If they are EU, see above. Non EU, Points based.


Also, never voted tories in my life (nor labour) I’ve always voted......what party, Andy? Do you know? Don't care.

Also, did one of those online “Which party are you?” questionnaires and was  more left than which poster?  Me? Contrary to the turds spun out by Vic, Fred, Rambo and Tommy, I am just left of centre, more LibDem than hard left. I am a hard remainers. That is why I intend to vote LibDem in the GGE, and remain in a 2nd referendum. I have issues with Swinson, as well as Corbyn, but neither are as corrupt and  in it for themselves as Boris, Mogg and Farage.

I consider myself of no label but I’m interested to see exactly how well you know me.

Actually quite busy. Youngest starts uni on Saturday. . Lots of running around on top of my work.

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Post by gelico on Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:44 pm

Andy wrote:
eddie wrote:Okay Andy, time for you to put your money where your mouth is. What are my views on the following:

Gay people - no problem. I have gay friends

Racism - hate it. Lots of non UK friends

The Hijab and Bhurka - not a problem, but should unveil on demand in security situations, banks, airports etc.

Gun control - keep them all prohibited in UK,

Global warming - more serious than most think. Verging on catastrophic. Tell Tommy the facts, he is too dumb to even read.

Immigration , Non EU, points based system. EU, free movement. Reciprocated by Europe
Eastern European’s in England .

If they are EU, see above. Non EU, Points based.


Also, never voted tories in my life (nor labour) I’ve always voted......what party, Andy? Do you know? Don't care.

Also, did one of those online “Which party are you?” questionnaires and was  more left than which poster?  Me? Contrary to the turds spun out by Vic, Fred, Rambo and Tommy, I am just left of centre, more LibDem than hard left. I am a hard remainers. That is why I intend to vote LibDem in the GGE, and remain in a 2nd referendum. I have issues with Swinson, as well as Corbyn, but neither are as corrupt and  in it for themselves as Boris, Mogg and Farage.

I consider myself of no label but I’m interested to see exactly how well you know me.

Actually quite busy. Youngest starts uni on Saturday. . Lots of running around on top of my work.



time enough to put out your rhymes.

time enough to rant about BoJo.

time enough to keep posting about Nigel Farage and the ''far right'' dangers

but no time to answer a question?

ok


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Post by Andy on Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:05 pm

I prefer not to speak to a racist fascist climate change denyer like Tommy. I regards him with less respect than dog shit on my shoe.

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Post by nicko on Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:24 pm

That's the sort of raving bigot we have on this Forum !
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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:28 pm

Andy wrote:I prefer not to speak to a racist fascist climate change denyer like Tommy. I regards him with less respect than dog shit on my shoe.

I would imagine that the feeling is mutual, but his posts are lucid and offer food for thought as well as prompting discussion and consideration of opposing points of view.

I thought that was the intention of a forum such as this; not simply as a vehicle for the outpourings of a nitwit with a completely closed mind and a penchant for gratuitous insults.
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Post by nicko on Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:30 pm

I'm proud to say I agree with every word of the last post !
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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:53 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
Andy wrote:I prefer not to speak to a racist fascist climate change denyer like Tommy. I regards him with less respect than dog shit on my shoe.

I would imagine that the feeling is mutual, but his posts are lucid and offer food for thought as well as prompting discussion and consideration of opposing points of view.

But you will admit, tommy's arguments are based on unfounded a priori's.  I mean, the personification of 'nature' as having a purpose?  It is worse than a new religion.  Rolling Eyes

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:20 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Fred Moletrousers wrote:

I would imagine that the feeling is mutual, but his posts are lucid and offer food for thought as well as prompting discussion and consideration of opposing points of view.

But you will admit, tommy's arguments are based on unfounded a priori's.  I mean, the personification of 'nature' as having a purpose?  It is worse than a new religion.  Rolling Eyes

Not all,Quill, not all. I have seen some well resourced and evidently researched material in some of Tommy's posts on, say, climate change. They may well be flawed...I wouldn't know, I'm not an expert and (probably to my shame) it's something that I can't get worked up about, even though I probably should.

That's why I rarely post about it.

So far as my own contribution to this forum is concerned my stance is, I hope, posteriori....been there, done that and have the T-shirt, and that's why I will argue passionately on certain topics.

The general attitude of the Left here is simply to dismiss Tommy as some sort of raving Right wing Neanderthal who knows nothing about climate change....even before they have read a word of what he says.

Love to pursue this with you, but Madam is coming for dinner tonight - and has offered to cook the meal...vegetarian, of course (but I had my sausage and bacon for breakfast in her absence.)

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Post by nicko on Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:59 pm

Does she know that Fred ?
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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:01 pm

nicko wrote:Does she know that Fred ?



Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by eddie on Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:41 pm

gelico wrote:
Andy wrote:
eddie wrote:Okay Andy, time for you to put your money where your mouth is. What are my views on the following:

Gay people - no problem. I have gay friends

Racism - hate it. Lots of non UK friends

The Hijab and Bhurka - not a problem, but should unveil on demand in security situations, banks, airports etc.

Gun control - keep them all prohibited in UK,

Global warming - more serious than most think. Verging on catastrophic. Tell Tommy the facts, he is too dumb to even read.

Immigration , Non EU, points based system. EU, free movement. Reciprocated by Europe
Eastern European’s in England .

If they are EU, see above. Non EU, Points based.


Also, never voted tories in my life (nor labour) I’ve always voted......what party, Andy? Do you know? Don't care.

Also, did one of those online “Which party are you?” questionnaires and was  more left than which poster?  Me? Contrary to the turds spun out by Vic, Fred, Rambo and Tommy, I am just left of centre, more LibDem than hard left. I am a hard remainers. That is why I intend to vote LibDem in the GGE, and remain in a 2nd referendum. I have issues with Swinson, as well as Corbyn, but neither are as corrupt and  in it for themselves as Boris, Mogg and Farage.

I consider myself of no label but I’m interested to see exactly how well you know me.

Actually quite busy. Youngest starts uni on Saturday. . Lots of running around on top of my work.



time enough to put out your rhymes.  

time enough to rant about BoJo.

time enough to keep posting about Nigel Farage and the ''far right'' dangers

but no time to answer a question?

ok


Indeed. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:33 pm

Fred M. wrote:The general attitude of the Left here is simply to dismiss Tommy as some sort of raving Right wing Neanderthal who knows nothing about climate change....even before they have read a word of what he says.

I don't mean to disparage tommy. But he does get himself into loops when he gets into naturalist arguments, such as climate or LBGT arguments.

Nature is no more than chance and necessity, but when tommy gets into his insistent phase he comes down to asserting that nature has a self-evident design, and there is a right and a wrong in nature.

Ultimately, that is the stuff of religion.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:22 am



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Post by 'Wolfie on Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:15 am

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

But you will admit, tommy's arguments are based on unfounded a priori's.  I mean, the personification of 'nature' as having a purpose?  It is worse than a new religion.  Rolling Eyes

Not all,Quill, not all. I have seen some well resourced and evidently researched material in some of Tommy's posts on, say, climate change. They may well be flawed...I wouldn't know, I'm not an expert and (probably to my shame) it's something that I can't get worked up about, even though I probably should.

That's why I rarely post about it.

So far as my own contribution to this forum is concerned my stance is, I hope, posteriori....been there, done that and have the T-shirt, and that's why I will argue passionately on certain topics.

The general attitude of the Left here is simply to dismiss Tommy as some sort of raving Right wing Neanderthal who knows nothing about climate change....even before they have read a word of what he says.

Love to pursue this with you, but Madam is coming for dinner tonight - and has offered to cook the meal...vegetarian, of course (but I had my sausage and bacon for breakfast in her absence.)

Cool

You reckon that the left are supposedly simply dismissing Tommy's waffling bulldust withoit reading it ?  Not really, Freddie..

Tommy's ingrained ignorance shines through in every repetitive post he spews out on here....

His idiotic rants have been dismantled and proven wrong so many times on here, by Didge, Ben, veya, Quill, Eilzel, as well as my humble self, that it's only to be expected that only rarely these days can anyone be bothered to answer or rebuke his lying garbage..

Hitler was a far-left wing 'socialist'  ?
A glacier in Greenland is only 700 years old ?
Nature is "designed" with a "purpose"  ?


And above all --  despite Tommy's all-too-obvious lack of both education and relevant experiences --  he still considers himself the sole arbiter of what should be considered "normal" in this world..

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:13 am

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Post by eddie on Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:41 pm

Oh holy hell. Rolling Eyes

What thoughts can I feast my eyes upon? What wisdom is there for me to feast upon?

Insults! Oooh. Let me learn....

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Post by phildidge on Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:33 pm

Hi Vintage

Glad to see you are back online

Hope all is well with you , as you have been missed?

Was concerned you had not been online for a while.

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Post by Maddog on Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:42 pm

'Wolfie wrote:
phildidge wrote:Andy wrong as per usual as i am center left on social issues and center right of economics

Lurker is left
Veya is left
Cass is left wing
HT and Syl, Magica are center left and right dependent on the issues, so is gelico, so is Fred. Though the later two lean more right wing
Maddog is a libertarian, center
Eddie is left and right wing on views, many left

So as per usual Andy is talking out of his backside

Laughing

Horatio, gelico and Fred left-leaning ???     You are truly delusional today, Didge..

And Maddog ?  Even he himself would probably admit to being a centre-right redneck  ?

Then again, you often label Ben, Quill, veya and myself as rabid "Marxists" when you don't have any better comebacks..

I don't really do the right-left paradigm.


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