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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:41 pm

UK Government: Those in civil partnerships will be able to convert to marriages by end of year Helen-grant


Equalities Minister Helen Grant has confirmed that same-sex couples who are in civil partnerships in England and Wales will be able to convert them to marriages by the end of 2014.

Mrs Grant made the remarks on Tuesday morning in front of a House of Commons committee that is looking at implementation of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act.

The committee, made up of pro and anti-equal marriage MPs, has been debating a final set of technical measures, such as the registration of same-sex marriages in shared religious premises, and other changes to existing legislation as a result of the law.

Amendments passed this morning included the recognition of same-sex marriages registered overseas and changes to occupational pension schemes regarding terminology – not addressing the existing imbalance in civil partnership contributions.

Regulations governing the registration of same-sex marriages in shared religious premises were also passed.

Mrs Grant stressed that ceremonies could only take place if permission was granted from all faith groups involved

During proceedings Conservative MP Sir Edward Leigh – a key opponent of equal marriage and LGBT rights in general – claimed that every marriage was now being redefined.

He said: “Same-sex marriage is not traditional marriage”.

Tory MP Tim Loughton also complained about the lack of consultation over the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act.

The former children’s minister has been a long-term critic of the reform.

In December last year, Mr Loughton described the government’s handling of the policy as “rather crass and clumsily” executed.

Mr Loughton was among 128 Conservative MPs to vote against the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act at third reading in May 2013.

The UK Government launched a consultation into the future of civil partnerships last month.

The first same-sex marriages in England and Wales will take place on Saturday 29 March.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/02/25/uk-government-civil-partnerships-will-able-convert-marriages-end-year/

Typical!

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:44 pm

excellent news as long as they protect the churches right to say no... Smile 

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:49 pm

Good let the gays change their "civil partnership" to "married"

One less thing for them to whinge about

Let's remember that A monkey in silk is a monkey no less

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:01 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:Good let the gays change their "civil partnership" to "married"

One less thing for them to whinge about

Let's remember that A monkey in silk is a monkey no less


lol.... Smile Smile 

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Post by Eilzel on Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:09 pm

Catman wrote:UK Government: Those in civil partnerships will be able to convert to marriages by end of year Helen-grant


Equalities Minister Helen Grant has confirmed that same-sex couples who are in civil partnerships in England and Wales will be able to convert them to marriages by the end of 2014.

Mrs Grant made the remarks on Tuesday morning in front of a House of Commons committee that is looking at implementation of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act.

The committee, made up of pro and anti-equal marriage MPs, has been debating a final set of technical measures, such as the registration of same-sex marriages in shared religious premises, and other changes to existing legislation as a result of the law.

Amendments passed this morning included the recognition of same-sex marriages registered overseas and changes to occupational pension schemes regarding terminology – not addressing the existing imbalance in civil partnership contributions.

Regulations governing the registration of same-sex marriages in shared religious premises were also passed.

Mrs Grant stressed that ceremonies could only take place if permission was granted from all faith groups involved

During proceedings Conservative MP Sir Edward Leigh – a key opponent of equal marriage and LGBT rights in general – claimed that every marriage was now being redefined.

He said: “Same-sex marriage is not traditional marriage”.

Tory MP Tim Loughton also complained about the lack of consultation over the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act.

The former children’s minister has been a long-term critic of the reform.

In December last year, Mr Loughton described the government’s handling of the policy as “rather crass and clumsily” executed.

Mr Loughton was among 128 Conservative MPs to vote against the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act at third reading in May 2013.

The UK Government launched a consultation into the future of civil partnerships last month.

The first same-sex marriages in England and Wales will take place on Saturday 29 March.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/02/25/uk-government-civil-partnerships-will-able-convert-marriages-end-year/

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Great news for common decency  cheers 

I'd love to know how Mr Leigh sees his own marriage as being redefined? Does he now feel less married? Does he feel dirty sleeping with his wife now? It is pure sour grapes from people who are upset they didn't get maintain the idea their relationship is somehow better than someone else is- perhaps they feel as such because they DON'T feel as much of a connection with their own partner as they'd like... who knows; I guess unless you are a the sort who wants to deny rights to someone who never did anything to offend you then it is hard to understand  No 

I am actually however not of the opinion a CP means as much anyway; and really they should have scrapped them and converted all current CPs with the change in law automatically. CPs were always a compromise imo.

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:10 pm

don't see how gay marriage has anything to do with common or decency... Smile 

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Post by Eilzel on Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:11 pm

heavenly father wrote:don't see how gay marriage has anything to do with common or decency... Smile 

Well tbf they aren't concepts I'd expect you to know much about.

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:12 pm

Eilzel wrote:
heavenly father wrote:don't see how gay marriage has anything to do with common or decency... Smile 

Well tbf they aren't concepts I'd expect you to know much about.

no as you wouldn't understand equality ... Smile 

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:39 pm

heavenly father wrote:don't see how gay marriage has anything to do with common or decency... Smile 

If you believe in equality, you should see that the right of two people who love another to get married shouldn't only be enjoyed by straight people.

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:57 pm

Good evening Folks.

Well this is good news because now that they will be married,gay people will be able to make love & not rape each other.

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Catman wrote:UK Government: Those in civil partnerships will be able to convert to marriages by end of year Helen-grant


Equalities Minister Helen Grant has confirmed that same-sex couples who are in civil partnerships in England and Wales will be able to convert them to marriages by the end of 2014.

Mrs Grant made the remarks on Tuesday morning in front of a House of Commons committee that is looking at implementation of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act.

The committee, made up of pro and anti-equal marriage MPs, has been debating a final set of technical measures, such as the registration of same-sex marriages in shared religious premises, and other changes to existing legislation as a result of the law.

Amendments passed this morning included the recognition of same-sex marriages registered overseas and changes to occupational pension schemes regarding terminology – not addressing the existing imbalance in civil partnership contributions.

Regulations governing the registration of same-sex marriages in shared religious premises were also passed.

Mrs Grant stressed that ceremonies could only take place if permission was granted from all faith groups involved

During proceedings Conservative MP Sir Edward Leigh – a key opponent of equal marriage and LGBT rights in general – claimed that every marriage was now being redefined.

He said: “Same-sex marriage is not traditional marriage”.

Tory MP Tim Loughton also complained about the lack of consultation over the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act.

The former children’s minister has been a long-term critic of the reform.

In December last year, Mr Loughton described the government’s handling of the policy as “rather crass and clumsily” executed.

Mr Loughton was among 128 Conservative MPs to vote against the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act at third reading in May 2013.

The UK Government launched a consultation into the future of civil partnerships last month.

The first same-sex marriages in England and Wales will take place on Saturday 29 March.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/02/25/uk-government-civil-partnerships-will-able-convert-marriages-end-year/

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Meant to say that that picture of Equalities Minister Helen Grant was taken after his sex change as he was a former cooks mate on the Ark Royal.

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Post by eddie on Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:34 pm

Shady wrote:Good evening Folks.

Well this is good news because now that they will be married,gay people will be able to make love & not rape each other.

Shady, why are you so fundamentally nasty sometimes?

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:51 pm

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heavenly father wrote:don't see how gay marriage has anything to do with common or decency... Smile 

If you believe in equality, you should see that the right of two people who love another to get married shouldn't only be enjoyed by straight people.

traditional marriage is a religious ceremony which doesn't accommodate two gays being married since there is no provision for it in religious dogma


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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:52 pm

Shady wrote:Good evening Folks.

Well this is good news because now that they will be married,gay people will be able to make love & not rape each other.

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Post by Eilzel on Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:59 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

If you believe in equality, you should see that the right of two people who love another to get married shouldn't only be enjoyed by straight people.

traditional marriage is a religious ceremony which doesn't accommodate two gays being married since there is no provision for it in religious dogma


Traditional marriages, going right back, also allowed for more than one wife (though never more than one husband for a wife); didn't have a problem with marrying children; and was FOR LIFE- none of this divorce nonesense.

You see smelly 'traditional' marriage has come a long way- and doesn't even have to be religious anymore.

You stick to your religious marriages in your Christian church- and stop trying to run down other peoples lives.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:01 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
heavenly father wrote:don't see how gay marriage has anything to do with common or decency... Smile 

If you believe in equality, you should see that the right of two people who love another to get married shouldn't only be enjoyed by straight people.

traditional marriage is a religious ceremony which doesn't accommodate two gays being married since there is no provision for it in religious dogma


John Boswell was a historian and religious Catholic who dedicated much of his scholarly life to studying the late Roman Empire and early Christian Church. Poring over legal and church documents from this era, he discovered something incredible. There were dozens of records of church ceremonies where two men were joined in unions that used the same rituals as heterosexual marriages.

http://io9.com/gay-marriage-in-the-year-100-ad-951140108/953627434

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:19 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
heavenly father wrote:don't see how gay marriage has anything to do with common or decency... Smile 

If you believe in equality, you should see that the right of two people who love another to get married shouldn't only be enjoyed by straight people.

Fortunately the vast majority of people agree Ben UK Government: Those in civil partnerships will be able to convert to marriages by end of year High_f12

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Post by Eilzel on Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:29 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

traditional marriage is a religious ceremony which doesn't accommodate two gays being married since there is no provision for it in religious dogma


John Boswell was a historian and religious Catholic who dedicated much of his scholarly life to studying the late Roman Empire and early Christian Church. Poring over legal and church documents from this era, he discovered something incredible. There were dozens of records of church ceremonies where two men were joined in unions that used the same rituals as heterosexual marriages.

http://io9.com/gay-marriage-in-the-year-100-ad-951140108/953627434

Ooops!  lol! 

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Post by eddie on Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:48 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Shady wrote:Good evening Folks.

Well this is good news because now that they will be married,gay people will be able to make love & not rape each other.

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So does your gay brother rape his partner then?

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:03 pm

eddie wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

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So does your gay brother rape his partner then?

He might do, I try not to think too much about what happens when the lights go out

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:06 pm

Eilzel wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

traditional marriage is a religious ceremony which doesn't accommodate two gays being married since there is no provision for it in religious dogma


Traditional marriages, going right back, also allowed for more than one wife (though never more than one husband for a wife); didn't have a problem with marrying children; and was FOR LIFE- none of this divorce nonesense.

You see smelly 'traditional' marriage has come a long way- and doesn't even have to be religious anymore.

You stick to your religious marriages in your Christian church- and stop trying to run down other peoples lives.

Marriage is for life???

Quick tell everybody!!!!!!! Before it's too late

Why would you want to get married thinking about divorce???

Do I run your life down???

Do you care??


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Post by Guest on Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:24 am




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Post by Eilzel on Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:35 am

No smelly I was simply looking for why you are so bitter all the time. I see you avoided my point about historic traditions of marriage- I understand Smile

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Post by Guest on Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:30 pm

eddie wrote:
Shady wrote:Good evening Folks.

Well this is good news because now that they will be married,gay people will be able to make love & not rape each other.

Shady, why are you so fundamentally nasty sometimes?

Good afternoon Eddie.

Honestly Eddie I wasn't being nasty in this case,more of a case of the naughty boy in me coming out.

It's just that I can't help but take the Mick out of people when they take themselves or their beliefs too seriously.And on this site the gay contingent are far too serious for a jolly pirate like me.

For most of the time when I post here there is a wry grin on my face & other times,while I type I'm laughing my tits off.Surely you must have sussed me out by now......we've been posting together for years.

To give you a little more insight into the mind of The Shady,over the years I have pissed off several higher ranking officers than myself with my flippant attitude for which I have been seriously rebuked.

And on one such occasion in which an American Army officer insisted that me & my colleagues do a certain thing,which I thought was crap.So I leaped at him & gave him the biggest wettest lip lock that he'd ever had in his life.

Following that there was a lot of shouting,waving of arms & I was threatened with dismissal from the service.

So Eddie my sweet chicken,please don't take my comments too seriously as I have such an unpredictable sense of humour which over the years has caused me to receive grief from my wife,family but most of all from my senior officers.

Honetly Eddie,it's all a game to me.

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smelly_bandit wrote:
Shady wrote:Good evening Folks.

Well this is good news because now that they will be married,gay people will be able to make love & not rape each other.

amazing captain

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Good afternoon Smelly.

I've really got to do something about my sense of humour.

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Post by Guest on Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:53 pm

Eilzel wrote:No smelly I was simply looking for why you are so bitter all the time. I see you avoided my point about historic traditions of marriage- I understand Smile

i didn't avoid your post i ignored it since it is irrelevant to homosexual "marriage" which the pinknews mafia are trying to shoehorn into "always being part of marriage"



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Post by Eilzel on Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:07 pm

What people here have pointed out is that marriage has changed a lot over time and therefore makes your defense on those grounds redundant- all the more so since there are historic instances where same sex couples actually could and did marry- but hey don't let logic stop you have a whinge Wink

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Post by Guest on Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:33 pm

that's nice for them, no pressure on churches to marry them i hope... Smile 

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Post by eddie on Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:55 pm

Shady wrote:
eddie wrote:

Shady, why are you so fundamentally nasty sometimes?

Good afternoon Eddie.

Honestly Eddie I wasn't being nasty in this case,more of a case of the naughty boy in me coming out.

It's just that I can't help but take the Mick out of people when they take themselves or their beliefs too seriously.And on this site the gay contingent are far too serious for a jolly pirate like me.

For most of the time when I post here there is a wry grin on my face & other times,while I type I'm laughing my tits off.Surely you must have sussed me out by now......we've been posting together for years.

To give you a little more insight into the mind of The Shady,over the years I have pissed off several higher ranking officers than myself with my flippant attitude for which I have been seriously rebuked.

And on one such occasion in which an American Army officer insisted that me & my colleagues do a certain thing,which I thought was crap.So I leaped at him & gave him the biggest wettest lip lock that he'd ever had in his life.

Following that there was a lot of shouting,waving of arms & I was threatened with dismissal from the service.

So Eddie my sweet chicken,please don't take my comments too seriously as I have such an unpredictable sense of humour which over the years has caused me to receive grief from my wife,family but most of all from my senior officers.

Honetly Eddie,it's all a game to me.

Shady I do know how to take you most of the time but you know, your comments can cut to the quick sometimes. They really can be nasty.
I do notice that some of your buddies won't take you to task about your comments, well that's for their conscience I guess.

It isn't me you should apologise too though, it's Eilzel and Phil; they're the ones who have to listen to this abusive crap all the time.

I do appreciate the pm and this post though x

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Post by Guest on Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:09 pm

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eddie wrote:
Shady wrote:

Good afternoon Eddie.

Honestly Eddie I wasn't being nasty in this case,more of a case of the naughty boy in me coming out.

It's just that I can't help but take the Mick out of people when they take themselves or their beliefs too seriously.And on this site the gay contingent are far too serious for a jolly pirate like me.

For most of the time when I post here there is a wry grin on my face & other times,while I type I'm laughing my tits off.Surely you must have sussed me out by now......we've been posting together for years.

To give you a little more insight into the mind of The Shady,over the years I have pissed off several higher ranking officers than myself with my flippant attitude for which I have been seriously rebuked.

And on one such occasion in which an American Army officer insisted that me & my colleagues do a certain thing,which I thought was crap.So I leaped at him & gave him the biggest wettest lip lock that he'd ever had in his life.

Following that there was a lot of shouting,waving of arms & I was threatened with dismissal from the service.

So Eddie my sweet chicken,please don't take my comments too seriously as I have such an unpredictable sense of humour which over the years has caused me to receive grief from my wife,family but most of all from my senior officers.

Honetly Eddie,it's all a game to me.

Shady I do know how to take you most of the time but you know, your comments can cut to the quick sometimes. They really can be nasty.
I do notice that some of your buddies won't take you to task about your comments, well that's for their conscience I guess.

It isn't me you should apologise too though, it's Eilzel and Phil; they're the ones who have to listen to this abusive crap all the time.

I do appreciate the pm and this post though x

I'm not abusing them Eddie.All I'm doing is blowing them KISSES xxx I love you I love you I love you 

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