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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:26 pm

President Donald Trump repeatedly threatened to release ISIS fighters in Europe as a form of punishment for countries like Germany and France; said he’s strongly considering trying to change the Constitution by executive order (it doesn’t work that way); indicated he hasn’t ruled out trying to illegally serve more than two terms; rewrote history during comments about Russia’s expulsion from the G8 that framed the situation in the most pro-Kremlin manner possible; and, despite five draft deferments, joked about giving himself the Medal of Honor.

That was Wednesday. And that’s an incomplete list of all the outlandish stuff Trump said on that day alone.

https://www.vox.com/2019/8/22/20827949/trump-chosen-one-greenland-bizarreness-explained

Best theory that I've found is that he's trying to ramp up enthusiasm among his hardcore supporters to make sure they make it to the polls in a year or so -- by feeding them liberal outrage at his antics. It would be a clever ploy.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:34 am

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Trump's already talking about trying for a third term ???

He has to win that second term yet !!!

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:22 am

'Wolfie wrote:Arrow

Trump's already talking about trying for a third term  ???

He has to win that second term yet  !!!

I don't think he intends the follow the Constitution. He'll complain the election was rigged, and claim that he is staying on to provide some order while they redo it.

Then he'll never leave. I told you, he is Caligula.

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Post by gelico on Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:20 am

Original Quill wrote:
'Wolfie wrote:Arrow

Trump's already talking about trying for a third term  ???

He has to win that second term yet  !!!

I don't think he intends the follow the Constitution.  He'll complain the election was rigged, and claim that he is staying on to provide some order while they redo it.

Then he'll never leave.  I told you, he is Caligula.  

quill, i have no idea where the link is but i read the other day that he has around 30+% of the black votes

is that true?

only i think when he started out it was around 3%, or at any rate it was very low


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Post by Original Quill on Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:25 pm

gelico wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I don't think he intends the follow the Constitution. He'll complain the election was rigged, and claim that he is staying on to provide some order while they redo it.

Then he'll never leave. I told you, he is Caligula.

quill, i have no idea where the link is but i read the other day that he has around 30+% of the black votes

is that true?

only i think when he started out it was around 3%, or at any rate it was very low


No, not today. Over a year ago, in April 2018, there was what they call a Kanye Effect, after the rapper Kanye West declared his support for President Trump. A Reuters poll, conducted April 29th 2018, put Trump’s approval among black men at 22 percent. The poll taken the month prior put that figure at 11 percent. However, black women are consistently off the charts against Trump.

Eight percent of black voters voted for Trump in 2016. In none of the past four Presidential elections did a Republican garner over 10% of the black vote. Trump's 'we/they' approach to blacks and his white nationalism philosophy keep him at great distance from most black voters.

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Post by Maddog on Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:50 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
President Donald Trump repeatedly threatened to release ISIS fighters in Europe as a form of punishment for countries like Germany and France; said he’s strongly considering trying to change the Constitution by executive order (it doesn’t work that way); indicated he hasn’t ruled out trying to illegally serve more than two terms; rewrote history during comments about Russia’s expulsion from the G8 that framed the situation in the most pro-Kremlin manner possible; and, despite five draft deferments, joked about giving himself the Medal of Honor.

That was Wednesday. And that’s an incomplete list of all the outlandish stuff Trump said on that day alone.

https://www.vox.com/2019/8/22/20827949/trump-chosen-one-greenland-bizarreness-explained

Best theory that I've found is that he's trying to ramp up enthusiasm among his hardcore supporters to make sure they make it to the polls in a year or so -- by feeding them liberal outrage at his antics. It would be a clever ploy.

He likes to troll people.

His comments are directed at his detractors as much as his supporters.

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:55 pm



It's a line that would have been avoided by a more prudent politician, but I don't think it was a mad man proclaiming his deity.

Of course, because he is who he is, its a line that came to him more easily.

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Post by gelico on Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:01 pm

Original Quill wrote:
gelico wrote:

quill, i have no idea where the link is but i read the other day that he has around 30+% of the black votes

is that true?

only i think when he started out it was around 3%, or at any rate it was very low


No, not today.  Over a year ago, in April 2018, there was what they call a Kanye Effect, after the rapper Kanye West declared his support for President Trump. A Reuters poll, conducted April 29th 2018, put Trump’s approval among black men at 22 percent. The poll taken the month prior put that figure at 11 percent.  However, black women are consistently off the charts against Trump.

Eight percent of black voters voted for Trump in 2016. In none of the past four Presidential elections did a Republican garner over 10% of the black vote.  Trump's 'we/they' approach to blacks and his white nationalism philosophy keep him at great distance from most black voters.

oh, ok. thanks for the update quill

i did think it sounded way too high. i know he gained some support via Kanye but he hardly had any to start with so,,,,,

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Post by 'Wolfie on Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:36 am

Basketball

Individual polls can have a wide disparity depending on when and where they are taken, the type of people being polled (i.e. "demographics"), the size of the sample group polled, and even the way the questions are framed...

Several polls over a longer period compared together, and analysed for overall trends, will tend to level out and compensate for such inconsistencies over the long run..

I will be surprised if Trump's overall support and approval ratings averaged out ever top (or even reach) 40% over the actual term of his presidency.

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Post by eddie on Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:46 am

Most people in power are over-inflated with ego....most ordinary people are too.
Perhaps Trump is just more outspoken about it than most.

Or perhaps he’s an idiot.

Or an outspoken idiot.

I like outspoken people though. Even if they’re idiots.

Beats a robot.

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