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Post by Tommy Monk on Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:16 pm



A bus driver has been suspended for refusing to carry passengers on a vehicle adorned with Pride decorations because it "promotes homosexuality".

The man, who works for Norfolk-based company Konectbus, was said to be unhappy about the bus's number being multicoloured in a nod to the LGBT rainbow flag.


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This man should not be persecuted for refusing to be forced to promote any political or politically correct agenda!!!


Good on him!



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Post by Original Quill on Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:22 pm

If he doesn't like his job, perhaps he would be better suited elsewhere.

Do garbage collectors interact with gays?

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:29 pm

And while we're at it, maybe some cops might not want to pull over gays.

Perhaps an exception for them in the law??

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Post by Syl on Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:15 pm

The bus driver is an idiot.
Would he refuse to drive a bus that was advertising a film he didn't like, or a company he didn't approve of?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:00 am



He is not objecting to driving a bus that has regular advertising posters on it...


And it is the job of a bus company to provide a service of transportation... not for them to be promoting homosexuality...!


Homosexuality is something that has been decriminalised... not something that should be actively promoted!



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Post by Syl on Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:22 am

Before he retired my OH owned a couple of black cabs, he chose what was advertised on them not the drivers he employed.

Same thing with the busdriver.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:27 am


This was nothing to do with the advertising space on the bus.




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Post by Syl on Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:34 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
This was nothing to do with the advertising space on the bus.




What was he actually complaining about. then?
If it was simply the number of the bus being multi coloured he is petty as well as stupid.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:47 am



This was about the overt promotion of homosexuality...


The bus company should not be involved in any such thing...!


Their job is the provision of a bus service... and his job is to drive a bus...



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Post by Syl on Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:57 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

This was about the overt promotion of homosexuality...


The bus company should not be involved in any such thing...!


Their job is the provision of a bus service... and his job is to drive a bus...



The bus company can promote what it wants to as long as it's legal.
I thinknthe number looks nice in rainbow colours anyway. Cool

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:25 am

I am heartily in agreement with Syl.

Tell the guy 'too bad' tommy. It's none of his fuukin' business what's painted on the side of the bus. His job is to drive. If he doesn't like his job, as I said...there are other jobs.

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Tommy wants a fascist state...

Where only Tommy and his fellow anti-democracy/anti-'free speech'/anti-science travellers alone will get to set standards and rules, and impose their "morals"..

And everyone else will obey, under threat of being deported back to wherever their distant ancestors migrated from (even if that was 2 or 3 thousand years ago..).

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Post by Eilzel on Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:36 am

Idiot bus driver. The bus company can put what it likes on the side of its vehicles as long as it is legal. If employees wan't to kick up a fuss then work somewhere else.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:56 am



I repeat... this was not a legitimate advert on the designated advertising space.



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Post by phildidge on Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:36 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

I repeat... this was not a legitimate advert on the designated advertising space.



They simple changed the colouring of the number of the bus to a rainbow colours.

The horror eh?

A company has every right to express its position in support of people

If the driver does not like this, he can take a running jump

He refused to carry out his duties.

Sackable offense

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Post by Victorismyhero on Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:34 am

1 It wasnt an advert per se
2 there is no "designated" advertuising space, a company can decorate its bus in any way it wishes so long as it doesnt obscure the drivers vision...
3 it can decorate its busses in any way it likes as long as it doesnt "outrage public decency" (the same standard as any advert or public (or even private ) display)

4 the drivers job is to drive that bus and move passengers from a to b, he has no say in the decoration of the bus, nor has he any right to that.
5 if for any reason he cant do that then out the door he goes
6 If I was the operating foreman he would be sacked at an appropriate hearing, IF, as I was for 10 years, his union representative, I would be unable to defend him on this charge.*********



******* not this particular person....I was for 10years a union rep and union health and safety officer in the NUR, who represented many drivers in the old "national bus" state owned company.

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Post by Eilzel on Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:08 am

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I repeat... this was not a legitimate advert on the designated advertising space.



Who decides what's a legitimate advert? You are talking nonsense, as per usual. His job is to drive a boss, not make decisions about its decoration or use of ad space Rolling Eyes

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Post by Syl on Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:54 am

Original Quill wrote:I am heartily in agreement with Syl.

Tell the guy 'too bad' tommy.  It's none of his fuukin' business what's painted on the side of the bus.  His job is to drive.  If he doesn't like his job, as I said...there are other jobs.

Thank you Quill...you see we do sometimes agree with each other. Cool

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:57 pm

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Post by gelico on Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:31 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

I repeat... this was not a legitimate advert on the designated advertising space.



so what? whether it was or not is no business of the driver


it's not like the bus was depicting gay orgies on the side of the bus

all i saw was rainbow coloured bus number which i actually thought looked nice. anyone having a problem with that has to be some kind of fool


FFS!


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Post by Andy on Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:33 pm

You said it.

Tommy IS some kind of fool.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:38 pm




His job is to drive the bus... the bus company's job is to provide the bus and the service... not promote homosexuality...!


Nobody should be forced to promote any political or political correct agenda in this way.



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Post by Maddog on Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:38 pm

I support this guy's right to make a personal decision to not engage in activities that he doesn't support.

And the companies right to fire his ass too. Cool

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:47 pm

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His job is to drive the bus... the bus company's job is to provide the bus and the service... not promote homosexuality...!

The transit board can do what they want within their scope of running the company, tommy. It's the transit board's prerogative how paint or decorate their vehicles. It's part of providing the bus.

Tommy wrote:Nobody should be forced to promote any political or political correct agenda in this way.

The transit board is not being forced to do anything. Presumably, they made the decision voluntarily.

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Post by gelico on Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:54 pm



i find it quite amusing especially for the bible thumpers

god sent a flood and killed everyone cos he didn't like them sinning

then he sent a rainbow cos he felt sorry and said here is a sign that i wont do it again

now the gay (sinning) community have pretty much said

''yeah, God, thanks for the rainbow, we are now wearing it and guess what? we're still 'sinning' while wearing your 'promise' to us and it's great
so up yours and a packet of fruit gums''

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Post by nicko on Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:31 pm

I like the way you explained that !
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Post by Syl on Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:59 pm

gelico wrote:

i find it quite amusing especially for the bible thumpers

god sent a flood and killed everyone cos he didn't like them sinning

then he sent a rainbow cos he felt sorry and said here is a sign that i wont do it again

now the gay (sinning) community have pretty much said

''yeah, God, thanks for the rainbow, we are now wearing it and guess what? we're still 'sinning' while wearing your 'promise' to us and it's great
so up yours and a packet of fruit gums''

Hahaha....I just thought they used the rainbow sign because the colours are pretty.

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Post by Eilzel on Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:21 am

Syl wrote:
gelico wrote:

i find it quite amusing especially for the bible thumpers

god sent a flood and killed everyone cos he didn't like them sinning

then he sent a rainbow cos he felt sorry and said here is a sign that i wont do it again

now the gay (sinning) community have pretty much said

''yeah, God, thanks for the rainbow, we are now wearing it and guess what? we're still 'sinning' while wearing your 'promise' to us and it's great
so up yours and a packet of fruit gums''

Hahaha....I just thought they used the rainbow sign because the colours are pretty.

Lol, I imagine both these were considered tbh. Though pretty sure diversity of sexuality is the key reason Smile

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:35 am



We don't have a 'transit board's here quill...


And a regular employee should not be imposed upon by any company, that should be impartial, to actively promote any political agenda...!



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Post by Eilzel on Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:16 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

We don't have a 'transit board's here quill...


And a regular employee should not be imposed upon by any company, that should be impartial, to actively promote any political agenda...!



It's not even a political agenda. It's a rainbow to promote acceptance and inclusivity. Only you and a small few others hate the idea of accepting those you don't like/understand.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:51 am

Basketball

Sounds like Tommy's never been an employer, nor a union rep' or delegate...

If he had any experience in the field, he would know what rights workers do or don't have..

And refusing to do your job merely because it supposedly clashes with your own personal political, religious or "moral" proclivities really doesn't cut it.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:18 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

We don't have a 'transit board's here quill...

Sombody runs the company.  Call it what you want.

Tommy Monk wrote:And a regular employee should not be imposed upon by any company, that should be impartial, to actively promote any political agenda...!

Toms, you sound like a pussy socialist.  An "employee should not be imposed upon by any company"?  Aw, po' baby...was he imposed upon?  Tell 'em to STFU and get his ass outta the yard.  He's fired!

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:22 am



Les... you can call it what you want, but bottom line is that it was promoting homosexuality and was a political agenda...


And quill... I'm sure you would live it if you turned up for work and your boss gave you a t shirt to wear that said "vote Trump"...!?



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Post by phildidge on Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:23 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

Les... you can call it what you want, but bottom line is that it was promoting homosexuality and was a political agenda...


And quill... I'm sure you would live it if you turned up for work and your boss gave you a t shirt to wear that said "vote Trump"...!?



False equivalence.

Can you see why Tommy?

The bus simple had the numbers of the bus be rainbow colours

The bus driver was not being forced to wear rainbow colours

Two completely different things

He would have every right to refuse to wear something in regards to a change in uniform, but has no right to refuse to drive a bus, he does not own. Nor decide how that bus is painted, decorated etc.

He will rightfully get the sack

If you think there is something wrong with promoting inclusion. Then clearly you must back the view to promote exclusion. At complete odds with our secular society, its laws on discrimination and prejudice. So its not a political message, but in line with secular laws on inclusion.

So on all counts you are wrong. As there is nothing political within the message, when homosexuality is accepted in law. No view in law is being promoted to be change by rainbow colours. So its not a political message at all. Its simple the bus company supporting gay pride, which is not even a political event.

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This is what Tommy is up in arms over.

The colours of the rainbow for the bus number

That is it and talk about how sad it is people would be up in arms over this

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:49 am




Exaggeration waffle...



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Post by phildidge on Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:58 am

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Exaggeration waffle...




Oh do grow up you pathetic homophobe

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Post by 'Wolfie on Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:29 am

cyclops

It's not like that driver even has to look at the rainbow colours either --  he's inside driving, while the destination sign is outside, when he's supposed to keep his mind focussed on his driving ...

Is the poor fragile little bigotted flower going to wilt every time he sees any multicoloured items out there in the big bad world..

After all, the gay community doesn't have a monopoly on rainbow colours.

Imagine how both that driver and Tommy will be having apoplexy next time they see a natural rainbow in the sky --  poor widdle melting snowflakes they be..

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:04 am



It is not the job of a bus company to be promoting homosexuality or any other politically motivated agenda... and it is wrong for them to force their staff to be any part of this promotion...!



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Post by Eilzel on Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:08 am

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Les... you can call it what you want, but bottom line is that it was promoting homosexuality and was a political agenda...



Wrong.

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:46 pm

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It is not the job of a bus company to be promoting homosexuality or any other politically motivated agenda... and it is wrong for them to force their staff to be any part of this promotion...!

WTF do you care? Obviously you are not being brainwashed into homosexuality, so you have no personal standing to complain. It's not your prerogative to comment on what's the bus company's job. Butt out...it's none of your business.

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Post by Syl on Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:54 pm

If an unsuspecting person boards this multi coloured numbered bus will he automatically start fluttering his eyelashes at the nearest male and start playing Liza Minnelli records
Is that what Tommy is scared of?? What a Face

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:37 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Les... you can call it what you want, but bottom line is that it was promoting homosexuality and was a political agenda...



Wrong.


No... I am correct in what I say.



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Post by Victorismyhero on Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:16 pm

Tommy...guess what...you have become a ........snowflake....

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:24 pm



I am making a simple point... a statement of fact... this bus company should not be promoting homosexuality... and should not be persecuting any driver for refusing to participate in this forced promotion.



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Post by Syl on Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:27 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

I am making a simple point... a statement of fact... this bus company should not be promoting homosexuality... and should not be persecuting any driver for refusing to participate in this forced promotion.



Bloody hell, the driver isn't being asked to convert, all he has to do is sit behind the wheel and drive the bloody bus, same as he has always done. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:40 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

I am making a simple point... a statement of fact... this bus company should not be promoting homosexuality... and should not be persecuting any driver for refusing to participate in this forced promotion.

Tommy, you don't use the 'should' word when stating a fact. That's a judgment.

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Post by gelico on Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:40 pm



Any passenger who rides on the 501 park and ride service to Thickthorn will end up gay

FACT!!

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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:15 pm

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He is not objecting to driving a bus that has regular advertising posters on it...


And it is the job of a bus company to provide a service of transportation... not for them to be promoting homosexuality...!


Homosexuality is something that has been decriminalised... not something that should be actively promoted!



According to YOU. According to many other people who (ironically, perhaps) don't have anything wedged up their ass on this issue, homosexuality is natural, and honoring all the suffering that came in the service of getting it "decriminalized" is a good thing.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:38 pm



Public transport is not a vehicle for the promotion of any political or politically correct agenda that may be favoured by some of the decision makers in management...!


And employees are not there to be forced to participate in the promotion of such whims of those in positions of management...!



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