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Post by phildidge on Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:48 pm



Three British men were hailed as heroes on Tuesday for wrestling a knife-wielding man to the ground after he had allegedly stabbed one woman to death and wounded another in Sydney.

Lee Cuthbert, Paul O'Shaughnessy and Luke O'Shaughnessy, all from Manchester, were working in the centre of the Australian capital when they heard commotion on the street and ran out to help.

"You don't think, you just kind of react really, it was surreal, very, very surreal," said Mr Cuthbert.

"We just tried to get down as quick as we could. We all kind of chased, worked together, but it was Luke who was the real hero. He pursued him the hardest and managed to get a grip of him," added Mr Roberts.

Dramatic video footage shows a man jump onto the roof of a car brandishing a knife as an onlooker confronts him with a wicker chair.

He appears to shout "Allahu Akbar" and "shoot me, f---ing shoot me in the f---ing head, shoot me, I want to f---ing die”.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/13/sydney-stabbing-one-woman-injured-knife-wielding-man-arrested/

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Post by 'Wolfie on Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:25 pm

Smile

Sydney is the capital of New South Wales,  not Australia..

That would be Canberra.


O'shaughnessy -- good Irish name, there...

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Post by nicko on Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:43 pm

Why didn't they oblige him ?
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Post by Original Quill on Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:46 am

nicko wrote:Why didn't they oblige him ?

The same reason why with road rage, they don't just run over a pedestrian. That course is too sticky...you'll have to fill out police forms, perhaps get arrested, have a trial, and a 2nd civil trial. Whereas, if you just brake, you'll be on your way with no hassle.

The NRA says the more guns, the more the good guys win. Fact is, most all people won't pull the good guy gun, for fear they will get involved...maybe prosecuted. Who needs the hassle?



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Post by Maddog on Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:46 am

phildidge wrote:

Three British men were hailed as heroes on Tuesday for wrestling a knife-wielding man to the ground after he had allegedly stabbed one woman to death and wounded another in Sydney.

Lee Cuthbert, Paul O'Shaughnessy and Luke O'Shaughnessy, all from Manchester, were working in the centre of the Australian capital when they heard commotion on the street and ran out to help.

"You don't think, you just kind of react really, it was surreal, very, very surreal," said Mr Cuthbert.

"We just tried to get down as quick as we could.  We all kind of chased, worked together, but it was Luke who was the real hero. He pursued him the hardest and managed to get a grip of him," added Mr Roberts.

Dramatic video footage shows a man jump onto the roof of a car brandishing a knife as an onlooker confronts him with a wicker chair.  

He appears to shout "Allahu Akbar" and "shoot me, f---ing shoot me in the f---ing head, shoot me, I want to f---ing die”.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/13/sydney-stabbing-one-woman-injured-knife-wielding-man-arrested/

If anyone knows anything about lunatics with a knife, it's the Brits. Wink

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Post by Syl on Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:32 pm

Local BBC radio spoke to one of the brothers this morning, he comes from Bury.
He was incredibly modest and said he did what anyone else would have done in the circumstances.

Not sure about that, a knife wielding lunatic covered in blood who has left two women dead in his wake must be a very scary situation to face.

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Post by nicko on Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:51 pm

I suspect he had Mental issues !
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Post by 'Wolfie on Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:03 pm

nicko wrote:I suspect he had Mental issues !

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Looks that way...

Had assaulted his sister last week, then left home --  AVO taken out against him after report to police; (He later claimed he was kicked out of home, and family 'disowned' him --  but everything points to him being the one who estranged himself from his family..).

Voluntarily admitted himself to a mental ward last week, signed himself out later on;  went to a support/half-way house for a couple of days;  than left and took a knife with him --  and instead of simply wandering off screaming at the shadows, went into the city and began his random rampage.

One woman dead;  second victim is recovering in hospital.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/sorry-a-million-times-sister-of-sydney-stabbing-suspect-speaks-out-20190814-p52h0e.html

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-health-to-review-care-of-alleged-sydney-stabbing-perpetrator-20190814-p52h4c.html

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-14/sydney-stabbing-alleged-victim-identified/11414000

Appears his terrorist proclivities, self-claimed "conversion" to Islamist/Jihadist beliefs, etc. might be be a recent convenient excuse for his violent behaviour, rather than any genuine rationale or long term buildup ?  His mental problems and treatment stretch back years, but these particular problems are much more recent ?  As it has been noted that he had no direct affiliations or contacts with known terrorist groups..

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/more-details-emerge-of-dramatic-sydney-stabbing-scene/news-story/b7c09074ee8eb0f725600f17e1749edc

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/sydney-stabbing-world-media-reports-on-brave-bystanders-who-restrained-mert-ney/news-story/274b20b3c26a86a4f5ea09ab16b29d65

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/loners-ideology-of-death-revealed/news-story/2be3afe37ee71f54d48e4ea701855ad4

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Post by nicko on Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:25 pm

Still needs the Rope ?
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Post by 'Wolfie on Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:34 pm

Smile

Could well end up in the system where they lock away those who were once labelled as "criminally insane" -- there are a couple of psychiatric hospitals here in NSW where they have high security sections next door/on the same grounds, run by the prisons department..

The only criminal convictions that still carry the death sentence here in Oz, are treason and assisting the enemy during wartime..

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:51 pm

I realize this is OZ, but world-wide if we keep waving this insanity accusation around, some smart lawyer is going to trip to the idea that all murders require an insanity defense. After all, it's patently insane to even consider murder, innit?

Trump keeps deflecting to mental illness as the cause of these mass shootings. "Guns don't pull the triggers, deranged minds do!", he says, even as he eliminates financial support for treatment.

I think that Trump and the NRA are insane to resort to insanity in lieu of gun control. Who is disproportionately put in prisons more than any other group? Trump may be inadvertently framing the defense that put a lot of people of color back on the streets. How ironic, a racist helping the races.

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