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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:49 pm

It's been brought to my attention that we've never banned insults that single out a specific gender, which was a massive oversight on my behalf. So from here on, nothing along the lines of "bitch" or worse.

Use your own judgment, of course. Insults aren't always insults among friends, right? And some are milder than others -- I don't see us banning "silly cow," for example.

Mods, please help me out on this one. Cool

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Post by gelico on Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:53 pm



oh for heaven's sake

why ban anything

if certain people want to throw around insults and make chumps of themselves then let them

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Post by eddie on Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:56 pm

Gels, i do tend to agree with you, I’m never bothered by people calling me names, but some people do care.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:04 pm

So, no more dickhead, twat or allusions to sex parts?  Does 'fuck' come in here?  I always use 'fook'...may I make it a suggestion?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:07 pm

Original Quill wrote:So, no more dickhead, twat or allusions to sex parts?  Does 'fuck' come in here?  I always use 'fook'...may I make it a suggestion?

Well, seeing as nicko called his wife a dickhead, and I just called you a twat -- no, sorry -- you twat! -- those don't qualify as gender-specific insults, I'm afraid. And I'm quite fond of calling women assholes, simply because it's funny to me.

No problem whatsoever with cursing, I fucking love cursing. Just don't use words that single out one gender.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:19 pm

'Twat' is a reference to the vulva. 'Dick' is a reference to the penis. Those are gender-specific, sex parts.

'Asshole' is not...we all have one, and my golden retriever sure has one. 'Tits' and 'breasts' are gender specific sex parts.

Hell, as long as we are on gender-related banning, expressions like 'limp-wristed' are sex specific. Can we speak of pregnancy? Is a woman's 'bump' forbidden?

Laughing Gonna be mighty dull around here.

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Post by eddie on Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:23 pm

Well, I back the site owner’s decision but I remain of the thought that NO words should be banned.

And let’s face it, Quill, if someone called Les a “queer” or some other offensive gay slur, you’d be up in arms.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:26 pm

Original Quill wrote:'Twat' is a reference to the vulva.  'Dick' is a reference to the penis.  Those are gender-specific, sex parts.

'Asshole' is not...we all have one, and my golden retriever sure has one.  'Tits' and 'breasts' are gender specific sex parts.

Hell, as long as we are on gender-related banning, expressions like 'limp-wristed' are sex specific.  Can we speak of pregnancy?  Is a woman's 'bump' forbidden?

Laughing   Gonna be mighty dull around here.

I mean b i t c h, s l a g, c u n t (which is already banned) and other words that are only meant to insult women for being women.

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Post by eddie on Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:30 pm

That’s the trouble with insults (and they’re just words really) everyone is different and offended by something different.

Perhaps we should learn not to be offended rather than banning “offensive words” which are just letters written in a certain way.

“S l a g” is just “Agls” or “Gals” if you move the letters around. Right? Right!

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:35 pm

eddie wrote:Well, I back the site owner’s decision but I remain of the thought that NO words should be banned.

And let’s face it, Quill, if someone called Les a “queer” or some other offensive gay slur, you’d be up in arms.

Yes, but policies aren't specifics. We can put up examples all day. But somewhere, sometime, you're going to run into a contradiction.

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Post by Jules on Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:36 pm

I'm a snowflake looking for a safe space where no one can call me "daft, silly, naughty or bad". I mean it!! Razz I hope my feelings on the matter will be taken into consideration, thanks in advance. snobby

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Post by eddie on Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:44 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:Well, I back the site owner’s decision but I remain of the thought that NO words should be banned.

And let’s face it, Quill, if someone called Les a “queer” or some other offensive gay slur, you’d be up in arms.

Yes, but policies aren't specifics.  We can put up examples all day.  But somewhere, sometime, you're going to run into a contradiction.

Yes. So see my above post....

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:56 pm

eds wrote:Yes. So see my above post....

What? The one about "'S l a g' is just “Agls” or “Gals”? I thought it was a damn fine point.

The US Supreme Court argued about 'bad' words in the obscenity debate...for years. Hard and fast rules would have banned half of the great novels in the world.

They finally threw up their hands and said: "I know it when I see it!" Some rule. Rolling Eyes

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Post by eddie on Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:18 pm

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eds wrote:Yes. So see my above post....

What?  The one about "'S l a g' is just “Agls” or “Gals”?  I thought it was a damn fine point.

The US Supreme Court argued about 'bad' words in the obscenity debate...for years.  Hard and fast rules would have banned half of the great novels in the world.

They finally threw up their hands and said: "I know it when I see it!"  Some rule.  Rolling Eyes


Hahahahahaha I like that.

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Post by Syl on Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:55 pm

gelico wrote:

oh for heaven's sake

why ban anything

if certain people want to throw around insults and make chumps of themselves then let them

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I agree with you.
It's not the individual words ...I couldn't care less if someone calls me a silly cow or an ugly old harridan....water of a ducks back springs to mind.
What is more disruptive imo is the constant barage of random abuse aimed at certain female posters here .... I find that ruins the forum somewhat lately.

Sometimes it feels like we are back in the playground the names are so pathetically childish.

That's my take on it anyway.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:56 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
Original Quill wrote:'Twat' is a reference to the vulva.  'Dick' is a reference to the penis.  Those are gender-specific, sex parts.

'Asshole' is not...we all have one, and my golden retriever sure has one.  'Tits' and 'breasts' are gender specific sex parts.

Hell, as long as we are on gender-related banning, expressions like 'limp-wristed' are sex specific.  Can we speak of pregnancy?  Is a woman's 'bump' forbidden?

Laughing   Gonna be mighty dull around here.

I mean b i t c h, s l a g, c u n t (which is already banned) and other words that are only meant to insult women for being women.

So you have a sexist inequality new policy

Good to know

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Post by phildidge on Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:08 am

I mean does this not come from a sexist stance that women cannot defend themselves over words?

I certainly think the women posters on here can and have often done so

You cannot have an unqual policy ben, which only seeks to protect women and not men

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Post by Maddog on Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:48 am

I demand that redneck is banned too. Cool

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Post by 'Wolfie on Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:45 am

afro

What about other nationalist and racist epithets besides "redneck"...

I've seen some Brit's getting upset over "Paki'" and "wogs" on here, because of the insulting way that they are used over there --  even though they don't (at least not yet..) carry the same connotations down here..

What would the cricket be like if matches against Pakistan had to be talked about without using the neutral term "paki's", but instead use the term Pakistani's --  even more confusing if those from the Punjab were to be referred to as "Punjabi",  rather than which team they played for.

"And the Punjabi Indian bowler bowls to the Punjabi Pakistani batsman..  and the Tibetan-Buddhist-exile Indian wicketkeeper catches him out mid-run.. oh, what a wonderful day this is for sub-continental cricket."

And I've seen Brit's on here throwing around terms like "Abo" and "boong", and calling ex-colonial natives "savages" and "criminals" --  terms that veya and I know to be 'racially' offensive, but that often go over many peoples' heads on here..

And then there's all of those Americans too afraid to "call a spade a spade" these days -- I've seen one idiot hardware chain down here labelling all of those digging implements being relabelled as "shovels" in their garden section.. WTF -- are they scared that might offend some American tourist who wanders into one of their shops at some future date ?


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Post by Maddog on Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:47 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:afro

What about other nationalist and racist epithets besides "redneck"...

I've seen some Brit's getting upset over "Paki'" and "wogs" on here, because of the insulting way that they are used over there --  even though they don't (at least not yet..) carry the same connotations down here..

What would the cricket be like if matches against Pakistan had to be talked about without using the neutral term "paki's", but instead use the term Pakistani's --  even more confusing if those from the Punjab were to be referred to as "Punjabi",  rather than which team they played for.

"And the Punjabi Indian bowler bowls to the Punjabi Pakistani batsman..  and the Tibetan-Buddhist-exile Indian wicketkeeper catches him out mid-run.. oh, what a wonderful day this is for sub-continental cricket."

And I've seen Brit's on here throwing around terms like "Abo" and "boong", and calling ex-colonial natives "savages" and "criminals" --  terms that veya and I know to be 'racially' offensive, but that often go over many peoples' heads on here..

OK

Ban Hillbilly too.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:58 am

Maddog wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:afro

What about other nationalist and racist epithets besides "redneck"...

I've seen some Brit's getting upset over "Paki'" and "wogs" on here, because of the insulting way that they are used over there --  even though they don't (at least not yet..) carry the same connotations down here..

What would the cricket be like if matches against Pakistan had to be talked about without using the neutral term "paki's", but instead use the term Pakistani's --  even more confusing if those from the Punjab were to be referred to as "Punjabi",  rather than which team they played for.

"And the Punjabi Indian bowler bowls to the Punjabi Pakistani batsman..  and the Tibetan-Buddhist-exile Indian wicketkeeper catches him out mid-run.. oh, what a wonderful day this is for sub-continental cricket."

And I've seen Brit's on here throwing around terms like "Abo" and "boong", and calling ex-colonial natives "savages" and "criminals" --  terms that veya and I know to be 'racially' offensive, but that often go over many peoples' heads on here..

OK

Ban Hillbilly too.

Basketball

And how about the snowflake brigade's 'thought police' also ban friendly labels like "Yankee", "Pommie", "Aussie" and "Kiwi"...

Just because somewhere down the track, maybe in another 50 or 100 years, someone starts using them in a more derogative and insulting way than normally..

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Post by Maddog on Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:05 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Maddog wrote:

OK

Ban Hillbilly too.

Basketball

And how about the snowflake brigade's 'thought police' also ban friendly labels like "Yankee", "Pommie", "Aussie" and "Kiwi"...

Just because somewhere down the track, maybe in another 50 or 100 years,  someone starts using them in a more derogative and insulting way than normally..

Nothing friendly about calling me a Yankee. I'm a Redneck.

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Post by nicko on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:00 am

This all comes down to the biggest Misogynist on here, namely Wolfie. Perhaps it's because I'm an old man,,, but I was brought up to respect Women, not all obviously ,but when I was young I would have no hesitation in decking a "man" who insulted a Women like Wolfie does,something I have done in the past. It must be the way he was dragged up, or due to a Women turning him down in the past. At home he is a Wimp who wouldn't say Boo to a Goose !













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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:55 am

Personally, I find it damn difficult these days to know just who is of which gender...half the population appears to be wanting to be the other sex; changing into the other sex; changed into the other sex and wants to change back again or is even a bit of both.
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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:01 pm

nicko wrote:This all comes down to the biggest Misogynist on here, namely Wolfie. Perhaps it's because I'm an old man,,,  but I was brought up to respect Women, not all obviously ,but when I was young I would have no hesitation in decking a "man" who insulted a Women like Wolfie does,something I have done in the past. It must be the way he was dragged up, or due to a Women turning him down in the past. At home he is a Wimp who wouldn't say Boo to a Goose














Reading some of the fool's posts it is hard to avoid the conclusion that he's just a silly, attention-seeking buffoon who probably derives some sort of sexual gratification from it.
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Post by Syl on Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:19 pm

nicko wrote:This all comes down to the biggest Misogynist on here, namely Wolfie. Perhaps it's because I'm an old man,,,  but I was brought up to respect Women, not all obviously ,but when I was young I would have no hesitation in decking a "man" who insulted a Women like Wolfie does,something I have done in the past. It must be the way he was dragged up, or due to a Women turning him down in the past. At home he is a Wimp who wouldn't say Boo to a Goose !














It all stems from self respect imo, if you dont respect yourself how can you respect others?

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Post by Syl on Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:41 pm

Maddog wrote:I demand that redneck is banned too. Cool

No stay, we would miss your input. Razz

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Post by Andy on Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:27 pm

My youngest has a cross/neutral gender bestest friend who my daughter wants me to call 'they' rather than he or she.
For the record, she/they (not my daughter, who is the prettiest girl in the world) has lovely hair, doe eyes, pretty face , great boobs and  a shape most models would die for.
Very hard not to think of 'they' as a girl.

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Post by nicko on Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:02 pm

Whoever gave me a RED, thanks very much, shows I hit a nerve !
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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:10 pm

All of y'all who don't like this rule can go ahead and obey it anyway, and have a great day!

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Post by phildidge on Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:40 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:All of y'all who don't like this rule can go ahead and obey it anyway, and have a great day!

No thanks, i will never obey a rule that is born from sexism and inequality.

Liberal my arse

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Post by phildidge on Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:48 pm

At the end of the day they are simple slurs, hence the new rule is a joke, espcially when it places emphasis only one one sex. Allow debate to flow




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Post by gelico on Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:33 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:All of y'all who don't like this rule can go ahead and obey it anyway, and have a great day!


what rule? another one of your wanky rules? what did you decide on this time? i've missed it

anyhoos, you're a dictator

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Post by Syl on Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:41 pm

nicko wrote:Whoever gave me a RED, thanks very much, shows I hit a nerve !

I just added another alien to the one you already had. Cool

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:46 pm

nicko wrote:Whoever gave me a RED, thanks very much, shows I hit a nerve !

You obviously hurt his feelings....... lol!
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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:57 pm

Well I agree with Ben. It's the intention which counts, and calling female members "classy ladies" is definitely meant to be abusive and offensive.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:59 pm

And calling male members "gentlemen" is highly offensive, innit?

I feel so hurt! Rolling Eyes

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Post by Raggamuffin on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:00 pm

Oooh, it's been filtered. Laughing

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Post by Syl on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:07 pm

We are all classy ladies on here. Laughing


phew, it worked.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:07 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Oooh, it's been filtered. Laughing

As you are proving, Raggs...the game isn't offensive words. It's whose ox is gored.

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Post by Syl on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:09 pm

Didge is going on about inequality, but is it REALLY the same when a man is called a dickhead or a wanker?

I'm not sure that it is tbh.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:14 pm

Syl wrote:Didge is going on about inequality, but is it REALLY the same when a man is called a dickhead or a wanker?

I'm not sure that it is tbh.

I'm waiting to hear Ben's response to nicko's calling me Cockwomble. How is that different from Cuntwomble...or is didge perhaps right about gender inequality?

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Post by Syl on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:16 pm

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Syl wrote:Didge is going on about inequality, but is it REALLY the same when a man is called a dickhead or a wanker?

I'm not sure that it is tbh.

I'm waiting to hear Ben's response to nicko's calling me Cockwomble.  How is that different from Cuntwomble...or is didge perhaps right about gender inequality?

Cockwomble sounds cuddly and friendly though.....I can imagine people calling their favourite rabbit Cockwomble. Razz

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:27 pm

Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I'm waiting to hear Ben's response to nicko's calling me Cockwomble.  How is that different from Cuntwomble...or is didge perhaps right about gender inequality?

Cockwomble sounds cuddly and friendly though.....I can imagine people calling their favourite rabbit Cockwomble. Razz

See?  That's a gender difference.  I luv the idea of a Cuntwomble, tho it's less and less frequent these daze. Don't even need a rabbit!  Laughing   Wink

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Post by eddie on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:29 pm

Like I said...

Perhaps we should learn not to be offended rather than banning “offensive words” which are just letters written in a certain way.


People are really just becoming so delicate.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:32 pm

I can't think of any slurs against men that fit the definition of the slurs that are banned here.

We ban slurs that target someone for, and only for, being a certain color, religion, sexual orientation, and now gender.

Didge was trying to act like I've only banned anti-woman slurs. That's not true, I said in the OP that any slur against a gender is now banned.

The n word slurs a black person simply and only for being black; the s-lag word slurs a woman simply and only for being a woman.

Dickhead, prick, wanker, etc. don't slur men for the simple fact that they're men -- they carry the same connotation as asshole.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:32 pm

eddie wrote:Like I said...

Perhaps we should learn not to be offended rather than banning “offensive words” which are just letters written in a certain way.

People are really just becoming so delicate.

As you know, I agree with you eds. I don't think its "becoming so delicate" as it is people going tribal. Ya know, anything to hurl back. Twisted Evil

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:34 pm

Ben wrote:Didge was trying to act like I've only banned anti-woman slurs. That's not true, I said in the OP that any slur against a gender is now banned.

So, Cuntwomble is alright?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:36 pm

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Ben wrote:Didge was trying to act like I've only banned anti-woman slurs. That's not true, I said in the OP that any slur against a gender is now banned.

So, Cuntwomble is alright?

Knock yourself out.

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Post by eddie on Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:38 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:Like I said...

Perhaps we should learn not to be offended rather than banning “offensive words” which are just letters written in a certain way.

People are really just becoming so delicate.

As you know, I agree with you eds.  I don't think its "becoming so delicate" as it is people going tribal.  Ya know, anything to hurl back. Twisted Evil

Will we all become collectively offended if gay people suddenly get upset by the word “gay”?

Do we only become offended ourselves when other groups suddenly become offended?

If it doesn’t offend you already why does it take other’s offence to make us suddenly offended?

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