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Post by phildidge on Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:17 pm

Iranian officials have warned that posting video footage of women removing their mandatory headscarves in public could lead to up 10 years imprisonment, according to media reports yesterday.

The announcement specifically named the US-based social media platform of Masih Alinejad, which since 2014 has been inviting Iranian women to post pictures of themselves without the hijab.

Ms Alinejad has been accused by the Iranian regime of working as an agent of the US government over the website, known as My Stealthy Freedom.

"As Masih Alinejad has a contract with the Americans, all those women who send the video footages of removing their hijab to her will be sentenced between one to 10 years of jail according to the article 508 of the Islamic Criminal Justice Act,” the head of Tehran’s Court of Revolution cleric Mousa Ghazanfarabadi told Fars news.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/29/iranian-women-face-10-years-sharing-videos-hijab-removal/

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:41 am

It's their culture. None of my business. No sense in getting all ethnocentric about it.

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Post by phildidge on Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:53 am

Iran's judiciary has criminialised the act of sending me videos from Iranians. But guess what? Iranian women aren't giving up.

Here's a compilation of their videos where they're #WalkingUnveiled against compulsory hijab. Women's voices can't be censored.
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https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1156310189743759360


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Post by phildidge on Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:56 pm

Her name is #YasamanAryani she is one of the youngest women’s right activist who joined #WhiteWednesdays movement against #ForcedHijab .Today Yasaman & her mother #MonirehArabshahi each got 16 yrs jail sentence for their Peaceful activities. Be her voice.

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Post by eddie on Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:45 pm

Original Quill wrote:It's their culture.  None of my business.  No sense in getting all ethnocentric about it.

Erm yes, but many news stories are “none of your business” but you might still give your opinion.

Anyway, here’s mine: totally shocking and barbaric. I would hope that so many Iranian women stand up to this and get this stupid law changed.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:30 pm

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:02 am

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:It's their culture.  None of my business.  No sense in getting all ethnocentric about it.

Erm yes, but many news stories are “none of your business” but you might still give your opinion.

Precisely.  Now justify how your opinion is superior another's opinion.

They have a culture that forbids removal of headscarves.  We have a culture that cages innocent dark-skinned children.  Go ahead and judge them, and we'll let them judge us.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:43 am

I call on world media, female politicians, #MeToo movement: Yesterday Iranian judiciary system said women who film their harassers will face up to 10 years in jail. They want to silence us. Don’t let them.
#MyCameraIsMyWeapon
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Post by eddie on Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:49 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:It's their culture.  None of my business.  No sense in getting all ethnocentric about it.

Erm yes, but many news stories are “none of your business” but you might still give your opinion.

Precisely.  Now justify how your opinion is superior another's opinion.

They have a culture that forbids removal of headscarves.  We have a culture that cages innocent dark-skinned children.  Go ahead and judge them, and we'll let them judge us.

I never said that my opinion was superior and I never said that they couldn’t judge us.
Not sure of what your opinion is on the OP so...... Iranian women face 10 years for sharing videos of hijab removal 2190311264

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:06 pm

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Precisely.  Now justify how your opinion is superior another's opinion.

They have a culture that forbids removal of headscarves.  We have a culture that cages innocent dark-skinned children.  Go ahead and judge them, and we'll let them judge us.

I never said that my opinion was superior and I never said that they couldn’t judge us.
Not sure of what your opinion is on the OP so...... Iranian women face 10 years for sharing videos of hijab removal 2190311264

I was speaking to the generic 'we'.  My point was that if you accept ethnocentric judging, then it goes both ways...and we (US) don't look so angelic.

The idea of ethnocentrism actually arises out of anthropology, and the attempt at objectivity in the study of other cultures.  Claude Lévi-Strauss, a French  anthropologist and ethnologist, was the father of objectivity in that science.

Lévi-Strauss held: in order to understand and work with a culture, you don't judge, which is to become involved.  Rather, you remain detached.  One tenet of that philosophy is that its wrong to think your cultural ideas are superior to those of other cultures.  From a god's-eye view, no culture has the franchise on right and wrong, good and bad.

The Japanese eat raw chicken.  Is that bad?  The Trobian Islanders allow polygamy.  Is that evil?  Don't judge others, lest you be judged yourself...and right now, we don't look so good.

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Post by eddie on Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:32 pm

Quill, just because you’re not proud of your own country right now, it doesn’t mean you can’t comment on your own views regarding others.

Otherwise, what’s the point of debate?

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:43 pm

eddie wrote:Quill, just because you’re not proud of your own country right now, it doesn’t mean you can’t comment on your own views regarding others.

Otherwise, what’s the point of debate?

Of course you are entitled to comment.  That is what we are doing right now.  I didn't use the word 'comment', but 'judge', in my posts.  To judge is to declare a right and wrong, which is much more that a mere discussion.  

The world is bigger than our little microcosm.  Wars have been fought when it comes to judgments.  To judge is to get really serious and severe in your approach.

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Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:Quill, just because you’re not proud of your own country right now, it doesn’t mean you can’t comment on your own views regarding others.

Otherwise, what’s the point of debate?

Of course you are entitled to comment.  That is what we are doing.  I didn't use the word 'comment', but 'judge', in my comments.  To judge is to declare a right and wrong, which is much more that a mere discussion.  

The world is bigger than our little microcosm.  Wars have been fought when it comes to judgments.  To judge is to get really serious and severe in your approach.

I take your points, especially about wars which is something I think you and I tend to find common ground on. I don’t tend to like judging but I can have an opinion, right? And so can you.

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:02 am

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Of course you are entitled to comment.  That is what we are doing.  I didn't use the word 'comment', but 'judge', in my comments.  To judge is to declare a right and wrong, which is much more that a mere discussion.  

The world is bigger than our little microcosm.  Wars have been fought when it comes to judgments.  To judge is to get really serious and severe in your approach.

I take your points, especially about wars which is something I think you and I tend to find common ground on. I don’t tend to like judging but I can have an opinion, right? And so can you.

Absolutely. And comments are also a form of informing those who do judge. So it's all good.

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Post by phildidge on Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:16 am

#WhiteWednesdays call on international community to condemn the arrest of brave women's rights defender Mojgan Keshavarz who has been sentenced to 23 years imprisonment. Here she is peacefully protesting Iran's degrading #ForcedHijab laws.

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1156924208506712064

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Post by phildidge on Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:16 am

55 years in prison for 3 women who protested mandatory hijab in Iran


Today I stand up for women's rights and, for the victims who suffer from being forced to wear the hijab and niqab

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Post by phildidge on Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:18 am

I have said this in debates before. Why are not all Muslim women standing in solidarity with their Muslim sisters here being forced. By taking off their hijabs in support of them? Until such laws are changed?

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