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Post by phildidge on Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:54 am

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Number of people believing there is nothing wrong with gay sex has fallen, survey finds

Thirty years of increasingly liberal attitudes towards gay sex may be coming to an end after the number of people who said they considered it wrong rose for the first time since the Aids crisis.

In 1987 when every household received sombre leaflets warning “don’t die of ignorance”, nine out of 10 people thought there was something wrong with sexual relations between two adults of the same sex.

Every year since, tolerance had increased, but now the British Social Attitudes Survey has found the number of people believing there is nothing wrong with gay sex has fallen, leaving a third of the population in some way opposed.

The finding, based on a survey of 2,884 people, coincided with the first dip in more than a decade in people saying they think sex before marriage is not at all wrong, with people from non-Christian religious groups the most likely to disapprove.

“Liberalisation of attitudes does seem to be slowing down,” said the independent social research agency NatCen, which carried out the research. “While social norms have changed, there is a significant minority of the population who remain uncomfortable with same-sex relationships and as such we may have reached a point of plateau.”


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jul/11/acceptance-gay-sex-decline-uk-first-time-since-aids-crisis

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https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/24/lgbtq-acceptance-millennials-decline-glaad-survey/1503758001/


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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:20 pm

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I was told that paedophilia is a sexual deviation rather than orientation.

Re the last one, I agree, but if a man considers himself to be a woman and finds women attractive, does that make him a lesbian?

Woman is a gender identity and lesbian is an orientation. So if you accept that the transgender woman is indeed a woman, that would make that person a lesbian, if she's attracted to women.

Wrong. Homosexuality is an atraction of the same sex, not gender. Hence how can a transwoman be a lesbian? This is what is wrong with people bluring the lines of gender identity and its going to make homosexuality redundent. Hence its a sexual orientation. What you would have to do is to define this as a new sexual based on gender and not sex. Based on people attracted to transwomen or transmen.
Sorry but being a lebsian does not mean having a 12 inch dick

So do you deny that a very small percentage of people feel like their gender identity is not harmonious with their sex?

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Post by phildidge on Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:23 pm

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Wrong. Homosexuality is an atraction of the same sex, not gender. Hence how can a transwoman be a lesbian? This is what is wrong with people bluring the lines of gender identity and its going to make homosexuality redundent. Hence its a sexual orientation. What you would have to do is to define this as a new sexual based on gender and not sex. Based on people attracted to transwomen or transmen.
Sorry but being a lebsian does not mean having a 12 inch dick

So do you deny that a very small percentage of people feel like their gender identity is not harmonious with their sex?

What does that have to do with what homosexuality is?

Homosexuality is based on sex. Attraction of the same sex, not gender identity.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:47 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Whoops, forgot to mention, Raggs -- sure, it's controversial, but a growing number of psychiatrists do see pedophilia as an orientation: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/paedophilia-sexual-orientation-straight-gay-criminal-psychologist-child-sex-abuse-a6965956.html

I think it fits, as an innate sexual attraction to a particular type of person that the pedophile doesn't feel he/she can help feeling. Other psychiatrists continue to see it, though, as a paraphilia, which is the term they use now instead of deviance.

I think it is an orientation. Paedophiles can't help the way they feel - the problem is when they act on it. It's a word which is misused a lot. A Paedophile is attracted to prepubescent children, not girls or boys who are merely under the age of consent.

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