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Post by Original Quill on Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:25 pm

His name is Jeffery Epstein.  He was again arrested this past weekend, after his plane landed in a New Jersey airport from Europe.  He is called a "billionaire financier", but he is better known as a sex trafficker in under aged children.

In his heyday, he and Donald Trump owned competing modeling agencies, specializing in younger women.  Like Trump, he owns homes in Florida and New York City.  It was at his home that Trump is alleged to have raped a 13-year old young woman.

He was embroiled in a state/federal prosecution a couple of years ago, for sex trafficking in Florida.  Republican attorneys, who were in the Justice Department at the time, cut a sweetheart deal for him.  Also, contrary to Justice Department rules, they failed to even inform, let alone ask permission of the victims.

The lead attorney responsible, Alexander Acosta, has since been appointed Secretary of Labor by Donald Trump.  That has led to grumbles that it was somehow a payoff.  The sweetheart deal written, by Acosta, involved dismissing all federal charges, and rolling up all cases in the two state charges, for which he was given no time.  Rachel Maddow did the following special on Secretary Acosta and his buddy, Jeff Epstein"



In the deal, Epstein was given blanket immunity for all of his crimes.  The big question is, why is he not immune from prosecution this time?  Why was he arrested in New Jersey over the weekend?  Didn't his immunity deal work?

The answer must be that there are new, subsequent charges:

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8 July 2019

American financier Jeffrey Epstein was charged with the sex trafficking of underage girls by federal prosecutors in court in Manhattan on Monday.

It comes more than a decade after he avoided similar charges in Florida in a plea deal.

Prosecutors unsealed an indictment charging him with one count of sex trafficking and one count of sex trafficking conspiracy.

Epstein, 66, was arrested on Saturday night and could appear in federal court on Monday to hear the charges. His lawyer, Jack Goldberger, has said Epstein will plead not guilty.

The former hedge fund manager, known for socialising with politicians and royalty, first came under investigation in 2005 after police in Palm Beach, Florida, received reports he had sexually abused minors in his mansion there.

Epstein has said in court filings that his encounters with alleged victims were consensual and that he believed they were 18 when they occurred.

By 2007, Epstein was facing a potential federal indictment for sexually abusing dozens of girls as young as 14 between 1999 and 2007, directing others to abuse them and paying employees to bring victims to him, according to court filings.

However, Epstein struck a deal in which he pleaded guilty to a lesser Florida state felony prostitution charge. He served a 13-month sentence in county jail, during which he was allowed to leave during the day to go to his office.

The deal has been challenged in court by several of Epstein’s accusers, who say they were denied a chance to have their views about it heard, in violation of the federal Crime Victims’ Rights Act.

In February of this year, a US district judge in Florida agreed, ruling that the deal violated the law.

Even so, the US Department of Justice said in a court filing last month there was no reason to cancel the agreement.

Among the prosecutors involved in the agreement was Alex Acosta, then the US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida and now Secretary of Labor for Donald Trump, the US president. A spokeswoman for the Department of Labor on Sunday declined to comment on Epstein’s arrest.

Democrats in the House of Representatives confronted Mr Acosta about his role in the Epstein case in April when the labor secretary appeared before the House Appropriations subcommittee on a routine budget matter.

Acosta responded that human trafficking was “an in­cred­ibly important issue” and said his office’s efforts ensured that Epstein faced jail time and had to register as a sex offender.

“I understand the frustration,” Acosta told the subcommittee. “I think it’s important to understand that he was going to get off with no jail time or restitution. It was the work of our office that resulted in him going to jail.“

A Justice Department office is investigating whether government attorneys committed professional misconduct in the Epstein case.

Brad Edwards, a lawyer who represents some of Epstein’s accusers, told Reuters on Sunday that he had taken many calls from “victims crying tears of joy” since news broke of Epstein’s arrest. “One just kept repeating that she was so happy he was finally off the streets,” Mr Edwards said.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/08/billionaire-financier-jeffrey-epstein-charged-sex-trafficking/

Epstein is alleged to have said he admired Donald Trump in the way that he folded his modeling agency in with his beauty pageants, to make a successful business.  He wanted to emulate Trump in his own businesses.

Donald Trump has already been named an unindicted co-conspirator in one case.  Some wonder if he is about to be named in another.  Is he involved in a continuing trade with Epstein?  It is notable that Trump was not given immunity in the Acosta sweetheart deal with Epstein.

We'll see.  Watch this space as this case unfolds.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:01 pm

National Review wrote:As if Donald Trump didn’t have enough legal problems and bad juju, now he has another headache to deal with: a lawsuit filed yesterday in federal court in New York accusing him (along with billionaire Jeffrey Epstein) of raping a 13 year old girl in 1994 at a party at Epstein’s place. The allegations are quite lurid, and reek of similar underage-sex-slavery charges made against Epstein. The lawsuit itself is not that likely to go very far; it appears to be a rehash of a suit previously dismissed in California.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/did-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-rape-13-year-old-girl/

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:33 pm

It's funny -- this is a conspiracy theory of a sort, involving Epstein and Trump along with President Clinton and Prince Andrew and terms like "Orgy Island" and "Lolita Express" -- practically as sordid a story as the bogus Pizzagate -- yet the right doesn't seem willing to jump in.

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Post by eddie on Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:48 pm

Well one has to wonder why these people get away with it if they’re guilty.

I wonder why.

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:03 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:It's funny -- this is a conspiracy theory of a sort, involving Epstein and Trump along with President Clinton and Prince Andrew and terms like "Orgy Island" and "Lolita Express" -- practically as sordid a story as the bogus Pizzagate -- yet the right doesn't seem willing to jump in.

I wonder why.

So much for your stance against fakenews eh Ben??

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:06 pm

eddie wrote:Well one has to wonder why these people get away with it if they’re guilty.

I wonder why.

In Epstein's case, he actually was convicted, but he was sentenced to a light term by a friend of Trump's.

It's a bit like asking after Bonnie & Clyde committed three bank robberies, "Why are they getting away with it?" Well, they're getting away with it for the time being -- they may eventually be brought to justice or, like so many criminals, they may get away with it forever.

For example, only about 60 percent of all murders in America are ever solved.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:07 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:It's funny -- this is a conspiracy theory of a sort, involving Epstein and Trump along with President Clinton and Prince Andrew and terms like "Orgy Island" and "Lolita Express" -- practically as sordid a story as the bogus Pizzagate -- yet the right doesn't seem willing to jump in.

I wonder why.

So much for your stance against fakenews eh Ben??

What?

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:13 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
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So much for your stance against fakenews eh Ben??

What?

You booted me put for posting Ben Shapiro saying you don't tolerate fake news on your site

You then declare that this thread is a conspiracy theory but allow it to stand.

A conspiracy theory is basically the definition of fakenews

Nevermind, I'm used to the double standards by now

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:14 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

So much for your stance against fakenews eh Ben??

What?

You booted me put for posting Ben Shapiro saying you don't tolerate fake news on your site

You then declare that this thread is a conspiracy theory but allow it to stand.

A conspiracy theory is basically the definition of fakenews

Nevermind, I'm used to the double standards by now

What?

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:14 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

You booted me put for posting Ben Shapiro saying you don't tolerate fake news on your site

You then declare that this thread is a conspiracy theory but allow it to stand.

A conspiracy theory is basically the definition of fakenews

Nevermind, I'm used to the double standards by now

What?

A geranium says what??

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:20 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

You booted me put for posting Ben Shapiro saying you don't tolerate fake news on your site

You then declare that this thread is a conspiracy theory but allow it to stand.

A conspiracy theory is basically the definition of fakenews

Nevermind, I'm used to the double standards by now

What?

A geranium says what??

Sorry, but you're not making any sense and I would like to invite you to try again.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:06 pm

eddie wrote:Well one has to wonder why these people get away with it if they’re guilty.

I wonder why.

They get themselves elected or appointed to high posts, where nobody wants to touch them. Or, they have the money. You don’t expect the US to be a pillar of law and order do you?

There's no doubt Epstein is guilty, and has been convicted. An AAG (Alex Acosta) helped him out with a sweetheart NPA, which is never offered to the target. So why in this case? And subsequently, Trump appoints the AAG to a high post??

Then there's the lawsuit filed, and withdrawn, over Trump's rape of a 13-year old. Bought off by another Non-disclosure Agreement? And how funny was that story with prostitutes in the hotel in Moscow?

Then there's all those stories of Trump at his own beauty pageants, walking in on naked, under aged contestants. Then there's the Access Hollywood tape. Oh, and then there's the 18-women who have accused him of groping and fooking. Ya gotta wonder when a guy brags that he couldn't go to Vietnam because he was too busy fooking women at home.

I don't know...where there's smoke, there's fire.

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Post by eddie on Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:10 pm

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eddie wrote:Well one has to wonder why these people get away with it if they’re guilty.

I wonder why.

They get themselves elected or appointed to high posts, where nobody wants to touch them.  Or, they have the money.  You don’t expect the US to be a pillar of law and order do you?

There's no doubt Epstein is guilty, and has been convicted.  An AAG (Alex Acosta) helped him out with a sweetheart NPA, which is never offered to the target.  So why in this case?  And subsequently, Trump appoints the AAG to a high post??

Then there's the lawsuit filed, and withdrawn, over Trump's rape of a 13-year old.  Bought off by another Non-disclosure Agreement?  And how funny was that story with prostitutes in the hotel in Moscow?

Then there's all those stories of Trump at his own beauty pageants, walking in on naked, under aged contestants.  Then there's the Access Hollywood tape.  Oh, and then there's the 18-women who have accused him of groping and fooking.  Ya gotta wonder when a guy brags that he couldn't go to Vietnam because he was too busy fooking women at home.

I don't know...where there's smoke, there's fire.

“They get themselves elected or appointed to high posts, where nobody wants to touch them.  Or, they have the money.  You don’t expect the US to be a pillar of law and order do you?”

Quill, I think you’re saying that there’s no one higher than the president, or government officials...doesn’t that mean then, that they rule over everyone?
Is that what you’re saying?

You really think they own all the power whilst sitting in the White House? Why didn’t Obama get loads of shit done then?

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:16 pm

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

They get themselves elected or appointed to high posts, where nobody wants to touch them.  Or, they have the money.  You don’t expect the US to be a pillar of law and order do you?

There's no doubt Epstein is guilty, and has been convicted.  An AAG (Alex Acosta) helped him out with a sweetheart NPA, which is never offered to the target.  So why in this case?  And subsequently, Trump appoints the AAG to a high post??

Then there's the lawsuit filed, and withdrawn, over Trump's rape of a 13-year old.  Bought off by another Non-disclosure Agreement?  And how funny was that story with prostitutes in the hotel in Moscow?

Then there's all those stories of Trump at his own beauty pageants, walking in on naked, under aged contestants.  Then there's the Access Hollywood tape.  Oh, and then there's the 18-women who have accused him of groping and fooking.  Ya gotta wonder when a guy brags that he couldn't go to Vietnam because he was too busy fooking women at home.

I don't know...where there's smoke, there's fire.

“They get themselves elected or appointed to high posts, where nobody wants to touch them.  Or, they have the money.  You don’t expect the US to be a pillar of law and order do you?”

Quill, I think you’re saying that there’s no one higher than the president, or government officials...doesn’t that mean then, that they rule over everyone?
Is that what you’re saying?

You really think they own all the power whilst sitting in the White House? Why didn’t Obama get loads of shit done then?  

and more importantly, on the 17th of july meullers testimony wont mean shit

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:19 pm

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:Well one has to wonder why these people get away with it if they’re guilty.

I wonder why.

They get themselves elected or appointed to high posts, where nobody wants to touch them.  Or, they have the money.  You don’t expect the US to be a pillar of law and order do you?

There's no doubt Epstein is guilty, and has been convicted.  An AAG (Alex Acosta) helped him out with a sweetheart NPA, which is never offered to the target.  So why in this case?  And subsequently, Trump appoints the AAG to a high post??

Then there's the lawsuit filed, and withdrawn, over Trump's rape of a 13-year old.  Bought off by another Non-disclosure Agreement?  And how funny was that story with prostitutes in the hotel in Moscow?

Then there's all those stories of Trump at his own beauty pageants, walking in on naked, under aged contestants.  Then there's the Access Hollywood tape.  Oh, and then there's the 18-women who have accused him of groping and fooking.  Ya gotta wonder when a guy brags that he couldn't go to Vietnam because he was too busy fooking women at home.

I don't know...where there's smoke, there's fire.

“They get themselves elected or appointed to high posts, where nobody wants to touch them.  Or, they have the money.  You don’t expect the US to be a pillar of law and order do you?”

Quill, I think you’re saying that there’s no one higher than the president, or government officials...doesn’t that mean then, that they rule over everyone?
Is that what you’re saying?

You really think they own all the power whilst sitting in the White House? Why didn’t Obama get loads of shit done then?  

Obama, just like every president, was checked by Congress, which was led by people who were determined to make him, in their own words, a one-term president.

The U.S. government was not designed to get loads of shit done, because the people who wrote the rules feared the power of a government that could enact lots of changes rapidly. Congress has more power than the President, so its power is diluted by dividing it into two houses and 500-plus members.

Its power is checked by the president, who can veto its laws, and by the Supreme Court, which can rule that its laws violate the Constitution.

Each of the three branches has the legal authority to stop the other branches from doing, or continuing to do, a number of actions.

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Post by eddie on Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:21 pm

“Obama, just like every president, was checked by Congress, which was led by people who were determined to make him, in their own words, a one-term president.”

So the Congress are the power then? Because according to Quill, the president has the power a la Trump.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:23 pm

eddie wrote:“Obama, just like every president, was checked by Congress, which was led by people who were determined to make him, in their own words, a one-term president.”

So the Congress are the power then? Because according to Quill, the president has the power a la Trump.

Like I said, Congress has the most power, but both the President and the Supreme Court have some powers over them.

The men who wrote the Constitution also realized they were giving Congress the most power, so they split Congress into two houses who have to agree with one another before they can pass laws, and made it a large body (currently over 500 members) who come from literally all over the United States.

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Post by eddie on Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:28 pm

I don’t think anyone really knows at any given time on any given issue who’s really in charge. It’s a different answer according to what question is asked and who’s answering.

All a bit murky and a lot of assumptions and really, no absolute proof of anything.

I’ll leave it right there, I reckon.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:33 am

Russe wrote:Quill, I think you’re saying that there’s no one higher than the president, or government officials...doesn’t that mean then, that they rule over everyone?
Is that what you’re saying?

Are you asking for a factual opinion. Or a normative opinion?

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:39 am

Ben wrote:Its power is checked by the president, who can veto its laws, and by the Supreme Court, which can rule that its laws violate the Constitution.

But...we are seeing a president who simply ignores the powers of the other branches.

What if Trump goes ahead and defies the Supreme Court's order that citizenship question may not be on the Census forms?

Can the Supreme Court then invalidate the Census and declare it null?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:15 pm

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Russe wrote:Quill, I think you’re saying that there’s no one higher than the president, or government officials...doesn’t that mean then, that they rule over everyone?
Is that what you’re saying?

Are you asking for a factual opinion. Or a normative opinion?

Why the fuck did you change Eddie's name to Russe?

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:33 pm

eddie wrote:I don’t think anyone really knows at any given time on any given issue who’s really in charge. It’s a different answer according to what question is asked and who’s answering.

All a bit murky and a lot of assumptions and really, no absolute proof of anything.

I’ll leave it right there, I reckon.


Who is in charge depends on what we are talking about.  

President enforces laws.
Congress makes laws
Courts interpret laws.  

That's a bit simplistic but lets look at the wall as an example.  

Trump can build the wall as a means of enforcing our borders. Congress can cut funding for it and the courts could say  walls are unconstitutional.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:37 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:It's funny -- this is a conspiracy theory of a sort, involving Epstein and Trump along with President Clinton and Prince Andrew and terms like "Orgy Island" and "Lolita Express" -- practically as sordid a story as the bogus Pizzagate -- yet the right doesn't seem willing to jump in.

I wonder why.

The right was there years ago when this involved Clinton and Trump was considered a likely Democrat.

The left wasn't interested.

That's how our country rolls.

It's why decent people are leaving both major parties

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:52 pm

eddie wrote:“Obama, just like every president, was checked by Congress, which was led by people who were determined to make him, in their own words, a one-term president.”

So the Congress are the power then? Because according to Quill, the president has the power a la Trump.

What Trump has done is contort the constitution and institutions.  As Pete Buttigieg said, "normal is broken".  The original constitutional recipe, which you're following eds, does not work anymore.  That's why everyone is pissed at Trump.

The president is supposed to be in charge of the Department of Justice, but does that mean he can shut things down when they begin investigating him?  For years, there has been a de facto barrier between the White House and the Department of Justice to prevent that.  Lawyers are Officers of the Court, and they serve the Supreme Court as well as the boss.  That means no lying, and no shenigans.

Robert Mueller did a fine investigation of Trump, and when he delivered his written report, Trump's henchmen hid the text, and proceeded to verbally reinterpret it in a series of press conferences.

For hundreds of years, the House of Representatives has had an Oversight Committee to oversee the Executive branch, with it's vast powers.  When the House tried to look into the real, but hidden Mueller Report, Trump simply ordered employees to ignore the subpoenas, and threatened ex-employees not to respond  It's witness tampering on the highest level.  Trump is now failing to cooperate or deliver anything for/to the Congress.

All of Trump's doings are unconstitutional.  But as Trump says, so fookin' what?  Whose gonna stop me?  He’s not a reader, nor for that matter, does he delve into any deep contemplation.  It boils down to this: the Executive branch has the Military, the police, and controls the resources…I got 'em, fook all of you.

That's where we are at.  The Congress can either start impeachment proceedings, which is the constitutional answer for such overreach; or, the Congress can sit on their hands until Trump formally turns the government into a dictatorship.  The Democrats, who control the House, seem to be doing the latter.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:05 pm

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Ben Reilly wrote:It's funny -- this is a conspiracy theory of a sort, involving Epstein and Trump along with President Clinton and Prince Andrew and terms like "Orgy Island" and "Lolita Express" -- practically as sordid a story as the bogus Pizzagate -- yet the right doesn't seem willing to jump in.

I wonder why.

So much for your stance against fakenews eh Ben??

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Epstein's actual arrest, court appearance and convictions aren't "fake news" this week though, smelly' (paedo'defender) bandit...

Unlike those whacky bullshit posts you have been making on other issues around here..

Maybe those various politicians, lawyers and business associates who have been protecting Epstein in the past no longer have the influence that they possessed a year or ten ago  ?

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:29 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

So much for your stance against fakenews eh Ben??

Razz

Epstein's actual arrest, court appearance and convictions aren't "fake news" this week though, smelly' (paedo'defender) bandit...

Um, if you want to reach him Russe, he's in the Manhattan federal holding facility.  The prosecutors are asking for 'no-bail' this time.  Facing 60-70 years, it's doubtful he will ever see the sun again.

wolf wrote:Unlike those whacky bullshit posts you have been making on other issues around here..

Russe is desperate, wolf.  The shit is falling all around him.  Do be kind.   Laughing

It is said that White House is watching this closely.  Some of those friends and associates of Epstein's are also close friends of Trump.  Secretary of Labor Alex Acosta, Trump's associate, is the one who broke the law in getting Epstein the sweetheart deal down in Florida.  The federal court in Florida has re-opened the case as the result of these disclosures.

Also, there's this to consider:  Eastern Europeans are awash in the child-slavery, prostitution and money laundering crimes.  Who is Trump's No. 1 friend?  Vlad Putin...No. one Eastern European.  Where did Trump get his funds after 6 bankruptcies?  Vlad Putin.  What is the Trump family's primary crime business?  It happens to be prostitution, facilitated through his modelling agency, and fed by the beauty pageants he owns.

Jeff Epstein has the exact same career goals for himself.  He once expressed the desire to 'do it' just like Trump does it.  Going the other way, Trump has praised Jeffery Epstein as follows:

Washington Post wrote:“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine that year for a story headlined “Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery.” “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Rare candor, for a man who would become president.  Perhaps Trump can share the limited "social life" with Epstein in a federal prison when he gets there.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:17 pm

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WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Razz

Epstein's actual arrest, court appearance and convictions aren't "fake news" this week though, smelly' (paedo'defender) bandit...

Um, if you want to reach him Russe, he's in the Manhattan federal holding facility.  The prosecutors are asking for 'no-bail' this time.  Facing 60-70 years, it's doubtful he will ever see the sun again.

wolf wrote:Unlike those whacky bullshit posts you have been making on other issues around here..

Russe is desperate, wolf.  The shit is falling all around him.  Do be kind.   Laughing

It is said that White House is watching this closely.  Some of those friends and associates of Epstein's are also close friends of Trump.  Secretary of Labor Alex Acosta, Trump's associate, is the one who broke the law in getting Epstein the sweetheart deal down in Florida.  The federal court in Florida has re-opened the case as the result of these disclosures.

Also, there's this to consider:  Eastern Europeans are awash in the child-slavery, prostitution and money laundering crimes.  Who is Trump's No. 1 friend?  Vlad Putin...No. one Eastern European.  Where did Trump get his funds after 6 bankruptcies?  Vlad Putin.  What is the Trump family's primary crime business?  It happens to be prostitution, facilitated through his modelling agency, and fed by the beauty pageants he owns.

Jeff Epstein has the exact same career goals for himself.  He once expressed the desire to 'do it' just like Trump does it.  Going the other way, Trump has praised Jeffery Epstein as follows:

Washington Post wrote:“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine that year for a story headlined “Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery.” “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Rare candor, for a man who would become president.  Perhaps Trump can share the limited "social life" with Epstein in a federal prison when he gets there.

But of course its not trump in the slammer.

Only 6 years or so before he retires and no one cares anymore right

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:04 pm

Russe wrote:But of course its not trump in the slammer.

“Trees that are slow to grow bear the best fruit.”
― Moliere

Patience, my Petunia.  Patience.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:09 pm

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Russe wrote:Quill, I think you’re saying that there’s no one higher than the president, or government officials...doesn’t that mean then, that they rule over everyone?
Is that what you’re saying?

Are you asking for a factual opinion. Or a normative opinion?

Why the fuck did you change Eddie's name to Russe?

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Post by eddie on Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:10 pm

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Ben Reilly wrote:
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Russe wrote:Quill, I think you’re saying that there’s no one higher than the president, or government officials...doesn’t that mean then, that they rule over everyone?
Is that what you’re saying?

Are you asking for a factual opinion. Or a normative opinion?

Why the fuck did you change Eddie's name to Russe?

Ahem?

Perhaps he thought he was talking to smelly bandit. Isn’t that what he calls him?

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:12 pm

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Ahem?

Perhaps he thought he was talking to smelly bandit. Isn’t that what he calls him?

Bingo. Twisted Evil

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Post by eddie on Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:40 pm

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eddie wrote:
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Ahem?

Perhaps he thought he was talking to smelly bandit. Isn’t that what he calls him?

Bingo.  Twisted Evil

Well I was kinda hoping you wasn’t making smelly and I into the same person....

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:59 pm

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Bingo.  Twisted Evil

Well I was kinda hoping you wasn’t making smelly and I into the same person....

I am constantly addressing the message, and ignoring the messenger. It's a habit. If I have good points to make, I almost forget whom I'm addressing.

Unless I use the "quote" button up on top, I will draft my posts by using the codes manually. It's then when, if I lose track, I might use the wrong name.

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Post by eddie on Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:00 pm

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Bingo.  Twisted Evil

Well I was kinda hoping you wasn’t making smelly and I into the same person....

I am constantly addressing the message, and ignoring the messenger.  It's a habit.  If I have good points to make, I almost forget whom I'm addressing.

Unless I use the "quote" button up on top, I will draft my posts by using the codes manually.  It's then when, if I lose track, I might use the wrong name.

That’s quite alright Sheila. Razz

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:08 pm

eddie wrote:
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I am constantly addressing the message, and ignoring the messenger.  It's a habit.  If I have good points to make, I almost forget whom I'm addressing.

Unless I use the "quote" button up on top, I will draft my posts by using the codes manually.  It's then when, if I lose track, I might use the wrong name.

That’s quite alright Sheila. Razz

Razz   And that's a much better retort than didge's: "You dumb, asshole, twat, Sheila, who knows nothing about history, and is not nearly as good as me...blah, blah, blah..."

Get my meaning?  Focus on the message, and not the messenger.  I hate it when someone stoops to that level.  Like wading through sewage.

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Post by eddie on Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:47 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I am constantly addressing the message, and ignoring the messenger.  It's a habit.  If I have good points to make, I almost forget whom I'm addressing.

Unless I use the "quote" button up on top, I will draft my posts by using the codes manually.  It's then when, if I lose track, I might use the wrong name.

That’s quite alright Sheila. Razz

Razz   And that's a much better retort than didge's: "You dumb, asshole, twat, Sheila, who knows nothing about history, and is not nearly as good as me...blah, blah, blah..."

Get my meaning?  Focus on the message, and not the messenger.  I hate it when someone stoops to that level.  Like wading through sewage.

When have you ever seen me being abusive? Not my style.
And I always answer the post not the poster, it’s the only way to debate, Sheila. Laughing

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:50 pm

eddie wrote:
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Ahem?

Perhaps he thought he was talking to smelly bandit. Isn’t that what he calls him?

He got over excited and lost himself in the moment

I normally only have that effect on women, but hey sexy is sexy and the heart wants what it wants.


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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:43 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
eddie wrote:

Perhaps he thought he was talking to smelly bandit. Isn’t that what he calls him?

He got over excited and lost himself in the moment

I normally only have that effect on women, but hey sexy is sexy and the heart wants what it wants.

It's not excitement, Russe.  As Edward I said, When you get rid of a turd, you do a good job!

— Quoted in Michael Prestwich, Edward I (Yale University Press, 1997), p. 477.

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He got over excited and lost himself in the moment

I normally only have that effect on women, but hey sexy is sexy and the heart wants what it wants.

It's not excitement, Russe.  As Edward I said, When you get rid of a turd, you do a good job!

— Quoted in Michael Prestwich, Edward I (Yale University Press, 1997), p. 477.

trump got rid of obama and clinton so double good job

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:07 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
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It's not excitement, Russe.  As Edward I said, When you get rid of a turd, you do a good job!

— Quoted in Michael Prestwich, Edward I (Yale University Press, 1997), p. 477.

trump got rid of obama and clinton so double good job

He did neither. Whatareya stupid? He colluded with the Russians to hack into voting machines, and manipulate the votes of three states in the electoral college.

He was always a loser.

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trump got rid of obama and clinton so double good job

He did neither.  Whatareya stupid?  He colluded with the Russians to hack into voting machines, and manipulate the votes of three states in the electoral college.

He was always a loser.

Hopefully he loses the next election as badly as the last one

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He did neither.  Whatareya stupid?  He colluded with the Russians to hack into voting machines, and manipulate the votes of three states in the electoral college.

He was always a loser.

Hopefully he loses the next election as badly as the last one

Wink

I'm looking beyond that. Trump in an orange jump suit...matches well with his fake color and hair, no?

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Post by 'Wolfie on Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:22 am

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It's not excitement, Russe.  As Edward I said, When you get rid of a turd, you do a good job!

— Quoted in Michael Prestwich, Edward I (Yale University Press, 1997), p. 477.

trump got rid of obama and clinton so double good job

Rolling Eyes

You really are one stupid ignorant fuckup, smelly'dumbo...

Nobody "got rid of" Obama..

His two terms in office were over.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:34 am

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Hopefully he loses the next election as badly as the last one

Wink

I'm looking beyond that.  Trump in an orange jump suit...matches well with his fake color and hair, no?

Good job he has loads of money, your system allows the rich to buy their way out of jail

And trumps a billionaire, the best you can hope is him being locked away in trump Tower like rapunzel

Yes have made sure of it, and his mate kavs will square him away

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smelly-bandit wrote:

trump got rid of obama and clinton so double good job

Rolling Eyes

You really are one stupid ignorant fuckup,  smelly'dumbo...

Nobody "got rid of" Obama..

His two terms in office were over.

I found you wolfie



You're the dumb one

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You really are one stupid ignorant fuckup,  smelly'dumbo...

Nobody "got rid of" Obama..

His two terms in office were over.

I found you wolfie



You're the dumb one

bom

You clueless fucking moron...

You're so fucking stupid, you don't even know that the POTUS only has two terms in office..

Obama got his second term despite all the bullshit emanating from you and your perverted chums on the far right..

Juss fess up, fuckface -- you're still the stupidest neo-nazi canute on Newsfix.

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Post by nicko on Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:01 am

I'M sure the rules state "civil conversation" that doesn't apply to you then ?
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I found you wolfie



You're the dumb one

bom

You clueless fucking moron...

You're so fucking stupid, you don't even know that the POTUS only has two terms in office..

Obama got his second term despite all the bullshit emanating from you and your perverted chums on the far right..

Juss fess up, fuckface --  you're still the stupidest neo-nazi canute on Newsfix.

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now thats how you troll a muthafucka!!!!!!




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Post by 'Wolfie on Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:35 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
bom

You clueless fucking moron...

You're so fucking stupid, you don't even know that the POTUS only has two terms in office..

Obama got his second term despite all the bullshit emanating from you and your perverted chums on the far right..

Juss fess up, fuckface --  you're still the stupidest neo-nazi canute on Newsfix.

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now thats how you troll a muthafucka!!!!!!
Rolling Eyes

You're still the only genuine fucking "troll" on here at the moment, you slimy child abuser/rapist/paedo' defending mongrel..

(IF you yourself truly believed me or anyone else to be any kind of liar, fellow "troll" or some kind of troublemaker,   you would have already complained to Ben & company well before now..).

But, you won't --  simply because most decent people on here are smart enough to recognise you for the snivelling spineless trolling little racist "fake soldier" bastard that you are.

Showing just what a clueless little troll you are, by now openly admitting that you're only here to troll this site, congratulating yourself everytime you trigger responses from decent "mothafuckas" against any of your disgusting racist, neo-nazi, pro-paedo' or simply nasty diatribes..

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WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now thats how you troll a muthafucka!!!!!!
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You're still the only genuine fucking "troll" on here at the moment, you slimy child abuser/rapist/paedo' defending mongrel..

(IF you yourself truly believed me or anyone else to be any kind of liar, fellow "troll" or some kind of troublemaker,   you would have already complained to Ben & company well before now..).

But, you won't --  simply because most decent people on here are smart enough to recognise you for the snivelling spineless trolling little racist "fake soldier" bastard that you are.

Showing just what a clueless little troll you are, by now openly admitting that you're only here to troll this site, congratulating yourself everytime you trigger responses from decent "mothafuckas" against any of your disgusting racist, neo-nazi, pro-paedo' or simply nasty diatribes..

hells yeah!!!!!!!

and its successful genuine troll fuckwit, since you just triggered

what do you think im here for?? the conversation ---------------------> Trump's sex trafficking cohort 3489511464 Trump's sex trafficking cohort 3489511464 Trump's sex trafficking cohort 3489511464 Trump's sex trafficking cohort 3489511464 Trump's sex trafficking cohort 3489511464 Trump's sex trafficking cohort 3489511464 Trump's sex trafficking cohort 3489511464

dont be fucking stupid

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