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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:13 am

Stay completely celebit for your entire life would you and could you?!!!!  Laughing 

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:25 am

Joy Division wrote:Stay completely  celebit for your entire life would you and could you?!!!!  Laughing 

not a chance... Smile 

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:28 am

heavenly father wrote:
Joy Division wrote:Stay completely  celebit for your entire life would you and could you?!!!!  Laughing 

not a chance... Smile 

Ah!..so God doesn't come first then? Laughing 

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:31 am

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not a chance... Smile 

Ah!..so God doesn't come first then? Laughing 

lol not and that count, i'm not designed to be like that... Smile 

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Post by Eilzel on Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:57 am

I know this thread is fun; but HF your reply kinds of spells out how easily you would betray your faith, and as such how seriously you take it. IF God came to you with this request you couldn't do it- I know of course that you cherry pick from your Bible in any case; believing only the bits that suit- so obviously no sex would be one of those parts you'd pretend doesn't exist; along with the rest haha

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:25 pm

heavenly father wrote:
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Ah!..so God doesn't come first then? Laughing 

lol not and that count, i'm not designed to be like that... Smile 


Ah!! Laughing  Your being honest about it at least, but I thought you were more devoted than that, but at the same time your only human as well.

If you can HF! Can you put in order of importance to you (and to keep being honest  Smile )

The following things in life as well as religion...

Like the things you can do without nearer to the bottom , first choice being a must.


Only if you want to Favva!!! Laughing 

In no particular order from me.....


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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:29 pm

Joy Division wrote:
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lol not and that count, i'm not designed to be like that... Smile 


Ah!! Laughing   Your being honest about it at least, but  I thought you were more devoted than that, but at the same time your only human as well.

If you can HF! Can you put in order of importance to you (and to keep being honest  Smile )

The following things in life as well as religion...

Like the things you can do without nearer to the bottom , first choice being a must.


Only if you want to Favva!!! Laughing 

In no particular order from me.....


Cars
Fags
Sex
Booze
Hash
God
Food

Regards, JD

sex
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to be honest the bottom three don't really apply at all to me.. Smile 

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Post by nicko on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:32 pm

why are priests supposed to be celibate? does theBible tell them to be?
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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:37 pm

nicko wrote:why are priests supposed to be celibate? does theBible tell them to be?

it does mention it but as a specific thing God would place in the heart of someone but i think expecting anyone to just do it because of a job is asking for trouble... Smile 

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Post by nicko on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:41 pm

perhaps if priests were allowed to marry there wouldn't be so much kiddy fidling.
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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:44 pm

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Ah!! Laughing   Your being honest about it at least, but  I thought you were more devoted than that, but at the same time your only human as well.

If you can HF! Can you put in order of importance to you (and to keep being honest  Smile )

The following things in life as well as religion...

Like the things you can do without nearer to the bottom , first choice being a must.


Only if you want to Favva!!! Laughing 

In no particular order from me.....


Cars
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Sex
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God
Food

Regards, JD

sex
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cars
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to be honest the bottom three don't really apply at all to me.. Smile 


Cheers for that Favva you're a star  ::D:: 

You never had to do that, and whatever the order, it's your life anyway,,,I just wanted to see how committed to God you were, while at the same time remembering your also human , cheers Favva.

But your poll does suggest you would sooner believe in God than eat! What a Face ::troll:: 

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:44 pm

nicko wrote:perhaps if priests were allowed to marry there wouldn't be so much kiddy fidling.

my thought precisely... Smile 

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:46 pm

Joy Division wrote:
heavenly father wrote:

sex
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to be honest the bottom three don't really apply at all to me.. Smile 


Cheers for that Favva you're a star  ::D:: 

You never had to do that, and whatever the order, it's your life anyway,,,I just wanted to see how committed to God you were, while at the same time remembering your also human , cheers Favva.

But your poll does suggest you would sooner  believe in God than eat! What a Face ::troll:: 

man does not live by bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of God... Smile 

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:05 pm

Now that is funny! Your god has a mouth and larynx and can speak? So he is human? Lives in a house up in the sky? What does he have for breakfast, angelburgers? Cloud muffins?

What a load of hogwash.

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Post by Eilzel on Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:56 pm

Honestly if I thought for a second God was real and that he had commanded something of me, anything, I would do if without question. He is God ffs haha fortunately I think its a load of old drivel then Smile

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:04 pm

I would do it without a shadow of doubt................

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:12 pm

lets hope allah asks all muslims then... Smile 

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:16 pm

Poor English in the title.

I won't be responding to the question.

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BigAndy9 wrote:Poor English in the title.

I won't be responding to the question.

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Post by SEXY MAMA on Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:35 pm

::roglol:: ::roglol:: ::roglol:: ::roglol:: ::roglol:: 

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:28 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:I would do it without a shadow of doubt................

Very committed SM! ::D:: 

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Post by Eilzel on Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:40 pm

Joy Division wrote:
heavenly father wrote:

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to be honest the bottom three don't really apply at all to me.. Smile 


Cheers for that Favva you're a star  ::D:: 

You never had to do that, and whatever the order, it's your life anyway,,,I just wanted to see how committed to God you were, while at the same time remembering your also human , cheers Favva.

But your poll does suggest you would sooner  believe in God than eat! What a Face ::troll:: 

What is most telling is that he believes in an all powerful creator who can make and destroy lives in an instant- but would be willing to disobey him.

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:56 pm

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Cheers for that Favva you're a star  ::D:: 

You never had to do that, and whatever the order, it's your life anyway,,,I just wanted to see how committed to God you were, while at the same time remembering your also human , cheers Favva.

But your poll does suggest you would sooner  believe in God than eat! What a Face ::troll:: 

What is most telling is that he believes in an all powerful creator who can make and destroy lives in an instant- but would be willing to disobey him.

thats because I know I am forgiven... Smile 

you knowingly disobey God and have no cover what so ever...oooops.. Smile 

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Post by Eilzel on Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:12 pm

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What is most telling is that he believes in an all powerful creator who can make and destroy lives in an instant- but would be willing to disobey him.

thats because I know I am forgiven... Smile 

you knowingly disobey God and have no cover what so ever...oooops.. Smile 

But what you are saying is you would actually knowingly disobey God if he spoke directly to you- pretty insincere if you ask me.

I don't believe so it doesn't matter- if I did some day find I was one of those weak people who 'needs' to believe in magical Sky daddy then there are so many to choose from I'd probably go with one of the nicer ones (the Quakers always seemed a jolly bunch)- but alas I think they all have their heads in the clouds  Smile 

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:14 pm

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thats because I know I am forgiven... Smile 

you knowingly disobey God and have no cover what so ever...oooops.. Smile 

But what you are saying is you would actually knowingly disobey God if he spoke directly to you- pretty insincere if you ask me.

I don't believe so it doesn't matter- if I did some day find I was one of those weak people who 'needs' to believe in magical Sky daddy then there are so many to choose from I'd probably go with one of the nicer ones (the Quakers always seemed a jolly bunch)- but alas I think they all have their heads in the clouds  Smile 

you think not believing means it doesn't matter..lol

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Post by eddie on Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:21 pm

heaveniy father wrote:
nicko wrote:perhaps if priests were allowed to marry there wouldn't be so much kiddy fidling.

my thought precisely... Smile 

You're both wrong completely on that score!!!
Paedophiles have sex with children because that is what turns them on.
Even if these said priests were married and getting sex frequently they'd still be after children.

Paedophilia is also about power too. It has nothing to do with celibacy.

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:31 pm

eddie wrote:
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my thought precisely... Smile 

You're both wrong completely on that score!!!
Paedophiles have sex with children because that is what turns them on.
Even if these said priests were married and getting sex frequently they'd still be after children.

Paedophilia is also about power too. It has nothing to do with celibacy.

..your dead right Eddie, I was going to say this earlier ...the agreed comment shared by Favva and Nicko is not right for sure...

It suggests that priests general would would turn to pedophilia if they had never had sex before or never been allowed to have a wife, which is utterly untrue and the very thought of that would make most men sick.

Sadly some priests do molest kids as it is just what they are like, evil perverts.


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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:35 pm

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You're both wrong completely on that score!!!
Paedophiles have sex with children because that is what turns them on.
Even if these said priests were married and getting sex frequently they'd still be after children.

Paedophilia is also about power too. It has nothing to do with celibacy.

..your dead right Eddie, I was going to say this earlier ...the agreed comment shared by Favva and Nicko is not right for sure...

It suggests that priests general would would turn to pedophilia if they had never had sex before or never been allowed to have a wife,  which is utterly untrue and the very thought of that would make most men sick.

Sadly some priests do molest kids as it is just what they are like, evil perverts.


of course that is what turns them on but the pressure of not having sex i'm sure will exasperate that desire, with no where else to go it leads to greater danger.

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:43 pm

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..your dead right Eddie, I was going to say this earlier ...the agreed comment shared by Favva and Nicko is not right for sure...

It suggests that priests general would would turn to pedophilia if they had never had sex before or never been allowed to have a wife,  which is utterly untrue and the very thought of that would make most men sick.

Sadly some priests do molest kids as it is just what they are like, evil perverts.


of course that is what turns them on but the pressure of not having sex i'm sure will exasperate that desire, with no where else to go it leads to greater danger.


..I know it's a bit crude here Favva, but that is what Pam and her fives sisters are for!

Molesters are unforgivable.

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Post by eddie on Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:44 pm

heaveniy father wrote:
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..your dead right Eddie, I was going to say this earlier ...the agreed comment shared by Favva and Nicko is not right for sure...

It suggests that priests general would would turn to pedophilia if they had never had sex before or never been allowed to have a wife,  which is utterly untrue and the very thought of that would make most men sick.

Sadly some priests do molest kids as it is just what they are like, evil perverts.


of course that is what turns them on but the pressure of not having sex i'm sure will exasperate that desire, with no where else to go it leads to greater danger.


No HF, they would more likely go and rape a woman.
Paedophilia is a specific urge.

Look at men that don't have girlfriends for long periods of time and can't get laid; they would more likely watch a lot of porn etc, they wouldn't go and have sex with a child or even start fantasising about children!!!

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:45 pm

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of course that is what turns them on but the pressure of not having sex i'm sure will exasperate that desire, with no where else to go it leads to greater danger.


..I know it's a bit crude here Favva, but that is what Pam and her fives sisters are for!

Molesters are unforgivable.

they are absolutely unforgivable and my intention was not to make excuse for their actions I just personally believe that it was a bad call by the church in the first place to ask men to abstain from sex. Smile 

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..I know it's a bit crude here Favva, but that is what Pam and her fives sisters are for!

Molesters are unforgivable.

they are absolutely unforgivable and my intention was not to make excuse for their actions I just personally believe that it was a bad call by the church in the first place to ask men to abstain from sex. Smile 



...yeah ,they really should have been allowed wives eh

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of course that is what turns them on but the pressure of not having sex i'm sure will exasperate that desire, with no where else to go it leads to greater danger.


No HF, they would more likely go and rape a woman.
Paedophilia is a specific urge.

Look at men that don't have girlfriends for long periods of time and can't get laid; they would more likely watch a lot of porn etc, they wouldn't go and have sex with a child or even start fantasising about children!!!

they would have very little access to women, mind you, you here some very real stories about what happens to young nuns, they would though through choirs etc have access to impressionable young boys, again i am not making excuse for sick perverts just thinking why the call to not have sex is a bad on.

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:49 pm

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they are absolutely unforgivable and my intention was not to make excuse for their actions I just personally believe that it was a bad call by the church in the first place to ask men to abstain from sex. Smile 



...yeah ,they really should have been allowed wives eh

absolutely, it could have saved a great deal of children a lot of mental trauma.


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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:52 pm

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Stay completely  celebit for your entire life would you and could you?!!!!  Laughing 

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IF a "God" required you "to stay celibate for life", JD ?

THEN I believe that your species will be extinct within a generation !!

WHAT a ridiculous hypothetical...      Razz

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But Bee, I just mean Favva having to stay celibate for HIS God, if it were some other God that only he worshipped, other males being free to breed if they so wish.

So it is not a ridiculous hypothetical ...

You jump right it again there Bee...

Bee a little more careful and buzz off the now! Laughing x

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:56 pm

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they are absolutely unforgivable and my intention was not to make excuse for their actions I just personally believe that it was a bad call by the church in the first place to ask men to abstain from sex. Smile 

Suspect 

SURELY you two aren't raising that old and ignorant furphy about voluntary celibacy being a root cause of paedophilia, are you !?!

DESPITE that brand of idiocy having been disproven decades ago, the "Catholic haters" among you have to keep on resurrecting that idiotic bullshit...  

AS with this stupid and irrelevant little thread.   Rolling Eyes 


...you've really got a problem haven't you?...I have nowhere said that celibacy is the root of pedophilia.

That is twice in a row you've made an arse of yourself , and if this thread is so bad, your so happy to still post on it.


...your attitude stinks Bee, ...on her bike and don't jump in again so soon with both feet.

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:13 pm

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YOU'RE out of order again, JD ~ just look at your blatant headline here....

IT'S a few more times than just twice that you keep on starting up these anti-Catholic slurs of yours, you arse !!!

NO matter how you try and disguise and excuse your religious bigotry..

YOUR ignorance on these matters is palpable.   Mad


Ffs Bee!!!!!! I'm not anti-catholic man!!!, this thread is just a bit of a goof around! As well as wanting to know just how committed Favva was to God!!!!

And there is nothing wrong with the thread title btw!!

Come on Bee, I'm not a religious believer, but I don't bother others are!!!

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:39 pm

Btw I do think religion is often the reason used by some who cause death and destruction...but not with all.

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:40 pm

Joy Division wrote:Stay completely  celebit for your entire life would you and could you?!!!!  Laughing 

If you're  God required you to... No_way10 Besides, I'm a non-believer.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:24 pm

I thought I heard somewhere that the whole Catholic priests remaining celibate thing was early Church politics at work, where priests (who were at the time marrying & raising kids) were passing their parishes on to their sons when they retired. Apparently the church didn't like this and decided to require celibacy. Has anyone else heard anything about this?

Anyway, there are some Catholic priests who are married; they were married before they became ordained, or they switched denominations; etc. The church doesn't want to divorce them, of course.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:43 pm

Marriage is supposed to be a most important, joyous and blessed part of every religion, so I can't understand why any religion would demand that one of their practitioners should not be allowed to get married themselves.

Two people in love, joined as one, in holy matrimony, experiencing the joy and happiness, then bearing child, a gift from god, etc.

Who would be more worthy than a religious representative themselves?

Practice what you preach springs to mind...!

And a great example to other followers.




And as far as peados are concerned, bad people (like any predator), will always try to get themselves into position where they can have more opportunities to easily prey on their targets.



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