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Post by phildidge on Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:54 pm

BREAKING: Renowned journalist violently assaulted by Portland Antifa

Update: Portland police have now declared the protest has become a riot and ordered everyone to disperse.

Celebrated journalist and hoax specialist Andy Ngo was violently assaulted today by a group of Portland Antifa members. Brandishing weapons, the mob bruised and bloodied Ngo, stealing his Go Pro camera that contains the real-time evidence of the assault.


https://www.thepostmillennial.com/breaking-renowned-journalist-violently-assaulted-by-portland-antifa/

Just been reading replies on twitter justifying this videolce. Apparantly walking between protestors and asking questions is justified to punch people in the face....Yep you cannot make it up the bullshit that is coming from the left now. Thankfully many people on the left and right have condemned thiis. Sadly again the excuses by people on this is appalling and totalitarian

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:56 pm

What does this incident have to do with whether the far left is smaller in the U.S. than it is in the UK?

It's a bad idea to take one incident and some tweets and extrapolate so many conclusions out of it. Because if you poke at it just a little, it all falls apart.

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Post by phildidge on Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:59 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:What does this incident have to do with whether the far left is smaller in the U.S. than it is in the UK?

It's a bad idea to take one incident and some tweets and extrapolate so many conclusions out of it. Because if you poke at it just a little, it all falls apart.

Well its actually well known now on the west and east coast there is a growing problem with the far left. Its why Antifa has now been classed as a hate group by the FBI. These people are simple soldiers, from the leftist universities. That use truigger warnings and teach kids to hate themselves if they have fair skin

I would say its a bad idea, for you to continually bury your head in the sand with this

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:13 am

An Oregon photojournalist who covers Portland’s frequently violent protest scene was taken to the hospital Saturday after being attacked by black-masked antifa activists.

Andy Ngo, an editor at the online platform Quillette, said he was struck on the head and face “multiple times” by antifa protesters, who also threw objects and a milkshake at him as he tried to walk away.

The attack, recorded in part by the Oregonian and posted on Twitter, came during Saturday’s Rose City Antifa counter-protest against a rally held by the far-right group Proud Boys in downtown Portland.

Mr. Ngo had bloody cuts and bruises on his face, and his hair and shirt were covered with milkshake, as shown in a video he posted on Twitter shortly after the assault.

“I just got beat up by the crowd — no police at all — in the middle of the street,” Mr. Ngo said in the post. “And they stole my GoPro. And they punched me several times in my face and head, and I’m bleeding.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jun/29/andy-ngo-beaten-up-by-antifa-activists-at-portland/


So the questuon to ask, why is left wing stalinists beating up an asian man>

Answers on a postcard I guess

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Ben Reilly wrote:What does this incident have to do with whether the far left is smaller in the U.S. than it is in the UK?

It's a bad idea to take one incident and some tweets and extrapolate so many conclusions out of it. Because if you poke at it just a little, it all falls apart.

Well its actually well known now on the west and east coast there is a growing problem with the far left. Its why Antifa has now been classed as a hate group by the FBI. These people are simple soldiers, from the leftist universities. That use truigger warnings and teach kids to hate themselves if they have fair skin

I would say its a bad idea, for you to continually bury your head in the sand with this

Trump says the FBI are a bunch of idiots and deep-staters. At a minimum, that suggests they are not exactly truthful.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:15 am

Antifa targets, attacks, sends independent journalist to hospital for filming their 'protest' - and they robbed him too

https://www.theblaze.com/news/ngo-portland-antifa-beating-protest

This is what the far left are about, Its not fighting fascism or Nazism. Its about socialists thugs. That beat up and rob now asian men. Simple for hold centrist views

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phildidge wrote:

Well its actually well known now on the west and east coast there is a growing problem with the far left. Its why Antifa has now been classed as a hate group by the FBI. These people are simple soldiers, from the leftist universities. That use truigger warnings and teach kids to hate themselves if they have fair skin

I would say its a bad idea, for you to continually bury your head in the sand with this

Trump says the FBI are a bunch of idiots and deep-staters.  At a minimum, that suggests they are not exactly truthful.

So you back what trumps says now then?

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Post by eddie on Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:17 am

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Ben Reilly wrote:What does this incident have to do with whether the far left is smaller in the U.S. than it is in the UK?

It's a bad idea to take one incident and some tweets and extrapolate so many conclusions out of it. Because if you poke at it just a little, it all falls apart.

Well its actually well known now on the west and east coast there is a growing problem with the far left. Its why Antifa has now been classed as a hate group by the FBI. These people are simple soldiers, from the leftist universities. That use truigger warnings and teach kids to hate themselves if they have fair skin

I would say its a bad idea, for you to continually bury your head in the sand with this

Trump says the FBI are a bunch of idiots and deep-staters.  At a minimum, that suggests they are not exactly truthful.

The FBI are probably (almost definitely) as crooked as Trump. Perhaps that’s why he gets away with his fuckeries.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:20 am

eddie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Trump says the FBI are a bunch of idiots and deep-staters.  At a minimum, that suggests they are not exactly truthful.

The FBI are probably (almost definitely) as crooked as Trump. Perhaps that’s why he gets away with his fuckeries.

Really? The people who have thwarted many terrorist attacks?

I dont mind claims made, but you need to back them up eddie with more evidence than paranoia

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eddie wrote:

The FBI are probably (almost definitely) as crooked as Trump. Perhaps that’s why he gets away with his fuckeries.

Really? The people who have thwarted many terrorist attacks?

Ehhh...and just how many of those are made up?

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Really? The people who have thwarted many terrorist attacks?

Ehhh...and just how many of those are made up?

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:31 am

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/progressivist-blue-check-journalists-celebrate-the-assault-of-andy-ngo/

So he is being treated for a brain hemorrhage now

The vile inaccurate claims against this jouranlist, are appalling and again some on the far left media applaud what has happened. You have the likes of CJ Werelman, a self confessed supporter of Hamas, You know the group that is antisemitic, homophobic terrorists. Make absurd claims against this Asian homosexual Journalist.

You even have people claim that its a provocation now to be present reporting at duel protests. You cannot make it up how vile and as hateful the far left is alongside the far right.


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Post by nicko on Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:16 am

We rarely make mistakes about things like that, not like you Yanks !
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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:31 am

It's about time that Antifa was classed as a hate group.

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Agreed !
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Post by Original Quill on Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:01 pm

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Ehhh...and just how many of those are made up?

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I would believe our president over you, a lowly peon.  President Trump is in a position to know.  He questions all of the deep-state, including FBI, CIA and even the military.

FBI statistics are all made up to manipulate us.

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I would believe our president over you, a lowly peon.  Idiot God is in a position to know.  He questions all of the deep-state, including FBI, CIA and even the military.

It’s all made up to manipulate us.



I believe in facts and not hearsay, so you need to start presenting some

You would also then have to claim that countless judges and juries have wrongly convicted people for terrorism.

Can you do that?

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I would believe our president over you, a lowly peon. Idiot God is in a position to know. He questions all of the deep-state, including FBI, CIA and even the military.

It’s all made up to manipulate us.

I believe in facts and not hearsay, so you need to start presenting some

So, you also agree that FBI hearsay is unacceptable.

phil wrote:You would also then have to claim that countless judges and juries have wrongly convicted people for terrorism.

I think that is coming. He is the president, head of the Justice Department, which is head of the FBI. I imagine there are already thousands of Petitions for Re-Trial being filed all over the country. It's a Rule 801 declaration by a party to a legal action, that such party has a reputation for being untruthful.

That would go to the credibility of any federal agent.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:22 pm

Quill stop wasting my time

Either produce evidence for your claims or move on

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phildidge wrote:Quill stop wasting my time

Either produce evidence for your claims or move on

Stop reading and posting, if it's all a waste of your time.

You have yet to post the back-up evidence that the FBI based any conclusion on. I mean, the FBI is an unreliable source, after all.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:32 pm

Soi still no evidence for quill claims, yet more hot air and bullshit

He made the claims on the FBI, based on what eddie had said and now cannot back it up, as the onus is on him to produce his point

Hence i will keep rubbioshing his posts ountill he backs up his unfoudned and clearly bullshit claim

Not only that he cannot even find a single trial case and in fact believes many convicted terrorirts must be innocent. You cannot make it up the bullshit this wally comes out with

However I bet he does not question a single terrorist conviction where the terrorist are far right

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phil wrote:He made the claims on the FBI, based on what eddie had said and now cannot back it up, as the onus is on him to produce his point.

What did eds say?  I believe I posted before her.  I didn't return to the thread until you started in with your shit-fit, pulling out all the other lies of the FBI.

No, the basis of my of my claim of FBI mendacity is the word of their superior...the President of the US.  Agent Trump says that the FBI is a witch-hunting bureau, bent on controlling America.

One of the ways the FBI does that, Trump says, is by publishing statistics and making false claims about who's who in America.  He urges us not to believe anything the FBI says.

I rest my case on the words of our brilliant leader.

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Post by gelico on Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:44 pm




https://twitter.com/i/status/1145384545505677312


antifa, vile cowardly scum, attacking a man on his own and cheering about it. so fucking full of hatred and anger towards anyone who questions them.

saw some comment like

''he went there to provoke people. he wanted a reaction, well he got one''

disgusting!

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:38 pm

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https://twitter.com/i/status/1145384545505677312


antifa, vile cowardly scum, attacking a man on his own and cheering about it.  so fucking full of hatred and anger towards anyone who questions them.

saw some comment like

''he went there to provoke people.  he wanted a reaction, well he got one''

disgusting!


Have you seen this Gelico?

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1145399360726810624

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Post by gelico on Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:50 pm

phildidge wrote:
gelico wrote:


https://twitter.com/i/status/1145384545505677312


antifa, vile cowardly scum, attacking a man on his own and cheering about it.  so fucking full of hatred and anger towards anyone who questions them.

saw some comment like

''he went there to provoke people.  he wanted a reaction, well he got one''

disgusting!


Have you seen this Gelico?

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1145399360726810624


i know, and becoming quite commonplace it seens

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Post by nicko on Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:04 am

If the Police can't stop this , send in some Army boys.
I'v heard they are "itchin" to sought it out ![in England].
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Post by Original Quill on Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:12 pm

nicko wrote:If the Police can't stop this , send in some Army boys.
I'v heard they are "itchin" to sought it out ![in England].

Oh right, and start another civil war?  As a matter of fact, the Army cannot legally become engaged in domestic affairs under the Posse Comitatus Act:

The original 1878 Posse Comitatus Act was indeed passed with the intent of removing the Army from domestic law enforcement. "Posse Comitatus" means the "power of the county," reflecting the inherent power of the old west county sheriff to call upon a posse of able-bodied men to supplement law enforcement assets and thereby maintain the peace. Following the Civil War the Army had been used extensively throughout the South to maintain civil order, to enforce the policies of the reconstruction era, and to ensure that any lingering sentiments of rebellion were crushed. However, in reaching those goals the Army necessarily became involved in traditional police roles and in enforcing politically volatile reconstruction era policies. The stationing of federal troops at political events and polling places under the justification of maintaining domestic order became of increasing concern to Congress, which felt that the Army was becoming politicized and straying from its original national defense mission. The Posse Comitatus Act was passed to remove the Army from civilian law enforcement and to return it to its role of defending the borders of the United States.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AwrWnKIuHxpdoggAPwcPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByNWU4cGh1BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?qid=20090401073222AAzQsmX

The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the US Coast Guard, nor does it apply to National Guard units operating in their own states.

Once again, though, state governments are reluctant to politicize their National Guard units...ie, this time it will be called up to enforce RW law; next time it will be called up to enforce LW law, and here we go again.

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That's Maddog entering his local "libertarian" rednecks lodge meeting  !!!

Which one, there's two people in that image?

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That's Maddog entering his local "libertarian" rednecks lodge meeting  !!!

Which one, there's two people in that image?

Or did the nuance of the meme escape you?  

It's a bumper sticker, Redneck. Conservatives have lost touch with rational thought, so they have to speak in mental trinkets.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:39 am

Huffington Post wrote:Far-Right Extremists Wanted Blood In Portland's Streets. Once Again, They Got It.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/andy-ngo-quillette-antifa-proud-boys_n_5d1a1275e4b07f6ca5811e0c


Just about the most irresponsible piece of journalism I have ever heard. That to the Huffington post, only the death of people through violence is a problem. Not the many people injured through violence, by the Far left and Far right. I mean you left out pictures of others injured, like the man hit over the head and had his head with stitches, when he and another man were attacked and maced by Antifa extremists. Who many came armed, with the intent to cause violence. I strrongly condemn any Far right and left extremists coming armed to cause violence. That is not protesting, but an intent to inflict violence upon people.

https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm...

This is also not the first time Journalists have been attacked by antifa. Which really shows up some poor research on the huffington posts part in how long this has been going on. They should be championing the protection of reporters from extremist thugs on the left and right. Not looking to make excuses as they have done here.

https://pressfreedomtracker.us/all-incidents/?tags=45

Both the far right and left are wrong and any sound minded liberal should stand against that. We use dialogue in a democratic society. Not violence and not street gangs or have you learnt nothing from 1930's Germany and where that led to.???? People also quote wrongly the battle of Cable Street. As if this was a great victory against Fascism. When in fact it led to more violent antisemitism and boosted Fascism.

https://www.historytoday.com/archive/myth-cable-street

In this country I did not see antifa protesting outside the schools in Birmingham. Where religious parents, who clearly held homophobic views and were being homophobic. Who were trying to subvert the secular values of this country. Where we simple want to teach inclusion in our British schools. If Antifa had of been there, there would have been violence, as there always is when Antifa turns up. Except they never did and are selective in their anti-fascism. Mainly as they are intolerant only of people right of Stalin. The fact that you think its right for such groups to exist, shows the inherant irresponability of your reporting. With a body count of 1-0 by the Far right at such violent protests, but with countless injured on each side. When will they then be happy? When some on the right have been killed. ?? Its an irresponsible piece of jouranlism which is given a defense to Far left extremism. When they should be condemning both left and right extremism. Its not down to people to police our countries, but the law enforcement. So instead of condemning clearly violent extremists on both sides, they make excuses for one side. Showing they have not learnt a single thing from history. All that will happen is an escalation in violence by both sides. Bravo for that clear stupidty. At least those of us Liberals will speak out against extremism on both sides. That is what secularist, humanists do.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:20 pm

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Which one, there's two people in that image?

Or did the nuance of the meme escape you?  

It's a bumper sticker, Redneck.  Conservatives have lost touch with rational thought, so they have to speak in mental trinkets.

No, it's a meme that shows that the far right and left are not that different.

Like Hitler and Stalin.

If a boot is on your throat does it matter if it's the left or the right boot?

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:27 pm

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It's a bumper sticker, Redneck.  Conservatives have lost touch with rational thought, so they have to speak in mental trinkets.

No, it's a meme that shows that the far right and left are not that different.

Like Hitler and Stalin.

If a boot is on your throat does it matter if it's the left or the right boot?

Yet, you don't want to talk about it. Conservatives have lost touch with rationality and the ability to write and talk about things. It's a meme. Granted, memes can speak the truth...but so do bumper stickers. If you can't rise to discussing it, it's a strong indication that you are incapable.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:33 pm

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No, it's a meme that shows that the far right and left are not that different.

Like Hitler and Stalin.

If a boot is on your throat does it matter if it's the left or the right boot?

Yet, you don't want to talk about it.  Conservatives have lost touch with rationality and the ability to write and talk about things.  It's a meme.  Granted, memes can speak the truth...but so do bumper stickers.  If you can't rise to discussing it, it's a strong indication that you are incapable.


I am succinct. A quality you can't grasp.

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Yet, you don't want to talk about it.  Conservatives have lost touch with rationality and the ability to write and talk about things.  It's a meme.  Granted, memes can speak the truth...but so do bumper stickers.  If you can't rise to discussing it, it's a strong indication that you are incapable.


I am succinct. A quality you can't grasp.  

It's not the words, its the game you are playing. Take a look at the Federalsit Papers and you'll see what a real dialogue looks like. You communicate with slogans, bumper stickers and rhymes. Or, mental trinkets, as I said above.

The result is a Trump like personality. No depth of thought. No concentration. No system. No morals. Just a series of disconnected bowel urges.

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Post by Maddog on Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:59 am

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I am succinct. A quality you can't grasp.  

It's not the words, its the game you are playing.  Take a look at the Federalsit Papers and you'll see what a real dialogue looks like.  You communicate with slogans, bumper stickers and rhymes.  Or, mental trinkets, as I said above.

The result is a Trump like personality.  No depth of thought.  No concentration.  No system.  No morals.  Just a series of disconnected bowel urges.

I have an economy of words. You waste them.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:13 am

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It's not the words, its the game you are playing.  Take a look at the Federalsit Papers and you'll see what a real dialogue looks like.  You communicate with slogans, bumper stickers and rhymes.  Or, mental trinkets, as I said above.

The result is a Trump like personality.  No depth of thought.  No concentration.  No system.  No morals.  Just a series of disconnected bowel urges.

I have an economy of words. You waste them.  

Your words don't move; they are static. You are too slow to analyze, and to quick to draw conclusions. Also, you have no original thoughts.

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