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Post by phildidge on Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:45 pm

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:05 am

The Navajo people have four genders -- male, female, masculine female and feminine man. Other tribes have three genders -- male, female and what's now called "two-spirit," which is pretty self-explanatory.

In India, they accept men, women, and hijras, which are biological men who dress and act like women and take women's names, and are recognized as another gender. Some girls go a similar route to the hijras, but they're a bit more rare.

Societies around the world recognize more than one gender, and some groups have been identified that never even bothered defining people by gender.

Gender is a social construct, nothing more.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:54 am

Ben Reilly wrote:The Navajo people have four genders -- male, female, masculine female and feminine man. Other tribes have three genders -- male, female and what's now called "two-spirit," which is pretty self-explanatory.

In India, they accept men, women, and hijras, which are biological men who dress and act like women and take women's names, and are recognized as another gender. Some girls go a similar route to the hijras, but they're a bit more rare.

Societies around the world recognize more than one gender, and some groups have been identified that never even bothered defining people by gender.

Gender is a social construct, nothing more.

And we see the idiocy of the left in action ignoring science or the fact that we are a dimorphic species
So if societies recgnose and believe in non-scientific views on gender. Then why was this kid kicked out of class for believeing in two genders?

I see as usual you dont mind this form of Nazism in schools, when conducted by the left
If a child wants to believe there is more than two genders, no problem, just as no child should be excluded from class and must follow your made up bullshit on gender. That is the issue here, but again the ignorant and quite totalitarian left argues clearly in favour of the KGB style methoids of the teacher

So to claim gender is a social construct shows even more how clueless you truely are and clearly against evolutionary biology. You are basically as clueless as creationists Many tests have been carrioed out not only on young babbies but other animals. Based on boy and girl toy preference. In every single study, boys will go for boy toys and girls will go for girl toys. So idiots like yourself, clearly fail to know there is actually inate gender difference that are biological. So to claim gender is a social construct, really proves how bad thisd leftist bullshit has found its way in education . Yes some aspects of gender like colours are socially contrsucted, but in reality and biologically there is only genders, based around humans being a dimorphic species




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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:33 am

There are two sexes. There are as many genders as people want to recognize.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:35 am

And there are even a few people whose sex can't be clearly categorized.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:37 am

Ben Reilly wrote:There are two sexes. There are as many genders as people want to recognize.


That is an ideological claim, not a biological claim.
People can claim what they like or believe what they like, but you should never enforce those beliefs onto others.
Have you learnt nothing from the history of religious enforcing of beliefs?

The fact is this teacher kicked a kid out of the class, for standing by known sicnetific understanding around gender.
He was punished for backing scientic understanding 
That is morally corrupt and appalling

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:38 am

Ben Reilly wrote:And there are even a few people whose sex can't be clearly categorized.


You mean intersex, where they have either or both sex characteristics
Which is down to defects that occur, not any evolutional biological view to a third sex
Seriously read some basic biology and educate yourself

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:42 am

phildidge wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:There are two sexes. There are as many genders as people want to recognize.


That is an ideological claim, not a biological claim.
People can claim what they like or believe what they like, but you should never enforce those beliefs onto others.
Have you learnt nothing from the history of religious enforcing of beliefs?

The fact is this teacher kicked a kid out of the class, for standing by known sicnetific understanding around gender.
He was punished for backing scientic understanding 
That is morally corrupt and appalling

Gender and sex aren't the same thing. This was one kid and one teacher. There are 7.5 billion people in the world. Shit is bound to happen.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:43 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
phildidge wrote:


That is an ideological claim, not a biological claim.
People can claim what they like or believe what they like, but you should never enforce those beliefs onto others.
Have you learnt nothing from the history of religious enforcing of beliefs?

The fact is this teacher kicked a kid out of the class, for standing by known sicnetific understanding around gender.
He was punished for backing scientic understanding 
That is morally corrupt and appalling

Gender and sex aren't the same thing. This was one kid and one teacher. There are 7.5 billion people in the world. Shit is bound to happen.


So again you excuse the viiew to force beliefs onto people

That shows how unsecular you are

Now watch and learn 


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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:48 am

Stick your ideologically driven YouTube videos up your ass, and look up the difference between sex and gender, because you're making an even bigger ass of yourself than usual, which I thought impossible.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:50 am

Ben Reilly wrote:Stick your ideologically driven YouTube videos up your ass, and look up the difference between sex and gender, because you're making an even bigger ass of yourself than usual, which I thought impossible.


She is a professor in neurology and sexology. Clearly more qualified than some yokey from Texas

Now why does Ben not want to watch, as he will realise how wrong he is, because he does not want to actually engage in the sciencve, but like a religious fanatic, simple buys into ideological beliefs

Nothinbg worse than leftist idiots like yourself

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:53 am

In general terms, "sex" refers to the biological differences between males and females, such as the genitalia and genetic differences.

"Gender" is more difficult to define, but it can refer to the role of a male or female in society, known as a gender role, or an individual's concept of themselves, or gender identity.

Sometimes, a person's genetically assigned sex does not line up with their gender identity. These individuals might refer to themselves as transgender, non-binary, or gender-nonconforming.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:58 am

Ben Reilly wrote:In general terms, "sex" refers to the biological differences between males and females, such as the genitalia and genetic differences.

"Gender" is more difficult to define, but it can refer to the role of a male or female in society, known as a gender role, or an individual's concept of themselves, or gender identity.

Sometimes, a person's genetically assigned sex does not line up with their gender identity. These individuals might refer to themselves as transgender, non-binary, or gender-nonconforming.


Transgender is based on a known medical condition called gender dysphoria. So why do you think its called that Ben?
People with gender dysphoria hole a binary view point believeing they are trapped in the wrong body. They dnot think they are non-binary, which flies in the face of actual transgenderism itself. As again Transgenderism is binary with people who suffer gender dysphoria. So people claiming non-binary are simple holding beliefs, which they are entittled to, but has no biological bases.

Now again, when tests have been carried out on 9 month  old babies, how are they then chosing male and female based toys, when now view of social construction can be applied?

Why is it that we know actually biological differences in men and women on average like for example and throughout many aniamls species, that women are naturing?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:00 am

In general terms, "sex" refers to the biological differences between males and females, such as the genitalia and genetic differences.

"Gender" is more difficult to define, but it can refer to the role of a male or female in society, known as a gender role, or an individual's concept of themselves, or gender identity.

Sometimes, a person's genetically assigned sex does not line up with their gender identity. These individuals might refer to themselves as transgender, non-binary, or gender-nonconforming.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:02 am

Ben Reilly wrote:In general terms, "sex" refers to the biological differences between males and females, such as the genitalia and genetic differences.

"Gender" is more difficult to define, but it can refer to the role of a male or female in society, known as a gender role, or an individual's concept of themselves, or gender identity.

Sometimes, a person's genetically assigned sex does not line up with their gender identity. These individuals might refer to themselves as transgender, non-binary, or gender-nonconforming.


Gender refers to the majority or about 99% of people based around what sex they are. As there is many biological traits associated through gender and sex. Again some aspects are socially constructed, like the colours pink or blue, but to claim its completely socially constructed, flies in the face of actually biology itself

You are not even attempting to answer points

So tray again

Transgender is based on a known medical condition called gender dysphoria. So why do you think its called that Ben?
People with gender dysphoria hole a binary view point believeing they are trapped in the wrong body. They dnot think they are non-binary, which flies in the face of actual transgenderism itself. As again Transgenderism is binary with people who suffer gender dysphoria. So people claiming non-binary are simple holding beliefs, which they are entittled to, but has no biological bases.

Now again, when tests have been carried out on 9 month  old babies, how are they then chosing male and female based toys, when now view of social construction can be applied?

Why is it that we know actually biological differences in men and women on average like for example and throughout many aniamls species, that women are naturing?

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:04 am

Have a read

https://qz.com/1190996/scientific-research-shows-gender-is-not-just-a-social-construct/

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:06 am

According to the NHS:

While biological sex and gender identity are the same for most people, this isn't the case for everyone. For example, some people may have the anatomy of a man, but identify themselves as a woman, while others may not feel they're definitively either male or female.

This mismatch between sex and gender identity can lead to distressing and uncomfortable feelings that are called gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is a recognised medical condition, for which treatment is sometimes appropriate. It's not a mental illness.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:10 am

Ben Reilly wrote:According to the NHS:

While biological sex and gender identity are the same for most people, this isn't the case for everyone. For example, some people may have the anatomy of a man, but identify themselves as a woman, while others may not feel they're definitively either male or female.

This mismatch between sex and gender identity can lead to distressing and uncomfortable feelings that are called gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is a recognised medical condition, for which treatment is sometimes appropriate. It's not a mental illness.


Its not even a debate is it with you, that you are so arrogant, you cannot even answer points raised to you

Did anyone claim it was? Actually in some cases it is down to a mental illness, as some schizophrenics can believe they are tapped in the wrong body and this is down to the schizophrenia.

So I support helping anyone going through gender dysphoria, but that dysphoria is binary, based opn eiether believing they should be male or female

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:11 am

And read your own link:

"Evidence that gender has some basis in biology, though, in no way implies a strict gender binary, nor negates the existence of transgender and non-binary identities."

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:13 am

Ben Reilly wrote:And read your own link:

"Evidence that gender has some basis in biology, though, in no way implies a strict gender binary, nor negates the existence of transgender and non-binary identities."

What the fuck?

Where at any point did I negate the existance of transgerism?

So no apology from you that you were wrong here on gender

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:22 am

When I was a Ph.D. student in sexology, I had a conversation with a colleague that forever cemented, in my mind, why I needed to speak out against the transitioning of children with gender dysphoria. Nowadays, every left-leaning parent and educator seems content to take a child’s word at face value if they say they were born in the wrong body, not realizing that by doing so, an important conversation is being brushed aside.

On the day in question, our research lab had just finished our weekly meeting, and I chatted with my colleague as I packed up my things to head back to my office. He had told me previously about his son, who from the moment he was born, announced that a mistake had been made—“I’m a girl,” he would say.

As a little boy, his son loved playing with dolls. He would wear his mother’s dresses and high heels, and wanted to grow his hair long like Princess Jasmine from the movie, “Aladdin.” At school, he preferred the company of girls to that of boys, who were rambunctious and mean. After many years of therapy and fighting constantly about the course of action they would take, his son had come out as gay.

I grew up as a straight woman in the gay community, at a time when homophobia was rampant in North American society. I witnessed the harassment and ignorance that my friends faced on a daily basis. Most, as a result, hid their sexual orientation from anyone outside of the community, and few were openly out to their families.

Although things have definitely improved since then, discrimination against gay people still exists. And as I’ve watched as glowing stories about transgender children have flooded every progressive news outlet over the last few years, every one of them appalls and saddens me. Because the underlying story that the public isn’t privy to is that many of these children would have grown up to be gay, but are instead undergoing a new form of conversion therapy.

Conversion therapy seeks to change a person’s sexual orientation. No mental health professional in their right mind conducts this type of therapeutic intervention anymore, because it is understood that sexual orientation is immutable from a very young age. Gender identity, however—whether someone feels masculine or feminine—is flexible in prepubescent children and grows more stable into adulthood.

Therapy that seeks to help gender dysphoric children grow comfortable in their birth sex (known in the research literature as the “therapeutic approach”) has been conflated with conversion therapy, but this is inaccurate. All of the available research following gender dysphoric children longitudinally shows that the majority desist; they outgrow their feelings of dysphoria by puberty and grow up to be gay in adulthood, not transgender.

Children will say they “are” the opposite sex because that’s the only language they have to express to adults that they want to do things the opposite sex does. Cross-sex behavior has also been shown to be a strong predictor of homosexuality in men. Previous research tells us that even children who are severe in their feelings of dysphoria will desist.

Another phenomenon that points to homophobia as a possible motivation for transitioning is that of rapid-onset gender dysphoria (ROGD), wherein adolescent and college-aged girls suddenly declare to their parents that they want to transition, without any previous signs of being distressed about their birth sex. This desire to transition usually manifests during or after puberty, yet these girls don’t meet any of the diagnostic criteria for gender dysphoria.

A study published last month on ROGD—one that gained widespread media attention for infuriating transgender activists—found that a large proportion of these girls had come out as lesbian or bisexual prior to coming out as transgender.

Why would this be the case? Along with the physical and emotional discomfort that is typical of undergoing puberty, it has become more socially acceptable to be a transgender man than a gay woman. The study’s findings also showed that transitioning increased students’ popularity among their peers and offered greater protection from harassment, because teachers were more concerned about anti-trans bullying than bullying that was anti-gay.

As children grow up, parents will undoubtedly notice if their son is effeminate. For those who are troubled at the thought of having a girly son, transitioning offers a promising solution—by allowing a child to transition, a feminine boy now presents as a feminine girl. A little boy who enjoys indulging in make-up and other female-typical activities will bring about much less attention and criticism if he were a girl.

This same logic extends to a child’s future sexual orientation. On some level, these parents likely know that there is a chance their feminine son will grow up to be sexually attracted to men. Instead of allowing this to happen, they may be more than happy to go along with facilitating their child’s requests to transition to the opposite sex, so that to the outside world, that child will appear heterosexual—an adolescent boy who is attracted to other boys will appear to be straight if he transitions to female. What’s most disturbing is that these parents will be lauded as open-minded and “on the right side of history,” when in actuality, they are homophobic. In some cases, a child may internalize their families’ anti-gay sentiments, which adds to their desire to transition.

Saying any of these things aloud will get a person branded as transphobic, and I understand why some transgender activists and their allies find this information so threatening; it could potentially be used as evidence that transgender people don’t really exist, or they should be forced to not feel the way that they do. One meta-analysis of 28 studies showed that transitioning can indeed be beneficial for some adults, but in the event that a child can grow to be comfortable in the body they were given, it shouldn’t be controversial to contend that this would be a better outcome than a lifetime of hormones and possible surgery and sterility.

Since I began writing about this issue several years ago, many of my friends have told me how relieved they were to not have grown up in today’s political climate. As children, they similarly voiced unhappiness about their bodies and felt that they identified with the opposite sex, but eventually grew up to feel comfortable living as gay men. They fear they would have decided to transition, because transitioning is now considered a viable, and almost commonplace, way to resolve this.

Transgender activism has successfully piggybacked onto the hard-won victories of the gay rights movement. The public understands that attitudes towards gay people were once abhorrent, and they also understand that many interventions aimed at “changing” gay people were unethical. Most empathic people have consequently been persuaded that being transgender is the same, in this regard, as being gay—that it is something that shouldn’t be questioned and should always be affirmed.

Yet of children who exhibit signs of gender dysphoria, we aren’t yet able to tell who will fall into the category of those who will desist (which is the majority) as opposed to the minority who persist and who would actually benefit from transitioning. In determining the answer, we must be resolute in following the scientific evidence, and not forget that gay people deserve love and acceptance, too.

https://quillette.com/2018/10/23/the-unspoken-homophobia-propelling-the-transgender-movement-in-children/

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:53 am

Gender isn't binary because it's not the same thing as sex, which is a biological fact and is binary for most people.

As in most anything to do with human beings, nature and nurture each play a role.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:22 am

Ben Reilly wrote:Gender isn't binary because it's not the same thing as sex, which is a biological fact and is binary for most people.

As in most anything to do with human beings, nature and nurture each play a role.


Yes Gender is binary as seen by countless studies showing the biological bases for gender being binary. We know also some parts are socially constructed, but this does not take away the biological fact, gender is binary.

Again people can make up countless gender definitions, but none of them have any bases in biology or science. They are simple faith based

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Post by Ben Reilly on Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:00 am

Gender isn't biological, it's psychological. Find me one dictionary that defines gender as synonymous with sex, and I'll concede the point.

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:08 am

Ben Reilly wrote:Gender isn't biological, it's psychological. Find me one dictionary that defines gender as synonymous with sex, and I'll concede the point.


Man aliove its like trying to reason with a creationist on evolution.
The study showed biological genderr differences.
How many more times, does this need to be said, before you understand, seriously?
I dfont have to do fuck all, when i have already presented the evidence

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/homo-consumericus/201212/sex-specific-toy-preferences-learned-or-innate

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Post by phildidge on Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:05 pm

A teenager suspended from school after insisting there are ‘only two genders’ has revealed he spoke out in protest at the ‘dangerous’ views being forced on to pupils.

The 17-year-old sparked an international debate about transgender rights and free speech after a secretly filmed video clip of him being reprimanded by his teacher went viral.

He was thrown out of class after arguing that only two genders exist – male and female – a position which his teacher claimed was ‘not inclusive’.

The schoolboy has now been told he will be suspended for three weeks following the clash during a personal and social education lesson at his secondary school in Aberdeenshire.

According to friends, the boy spoke out to let people know what is going on in the education system.

One told The Mail on Sunday: ‘He decided to film the teacher because he wanted to show what was going on in schools today for simply stating there are only two genders.

‘He has nothing against anyone who identifies as LGBTQ, but completely disagrees that there are more than two genders and that it’s a social construct.

‘He believes telling kids that boys are girls and girls are boys is a very dangerous thing and wanted to get his views across to the teacher.

‘His view is that scientifically there are only two genders. This new gender theory that there are unlimited genders is something that should be discussed and debated – not just thrown into a class discussion and if you disagree you get kicked out of the room.’

The incident took place when the teacher logged on to a website and found only male or female gender types listed as options, which he claimed was ‘old fashioned’.

When the schoolboy disagreed, he was ejected from the class. After being allowed back, he secretly filmed the teacher. In the video, which has been watched on YouTube more than 90,000 times, the teacher can be heard telling the pupil: ‘You’re entitled to your opinion.’

The three-minute clip triggered a furious debate online, with many saying the boy had been unfairly treated, while others insisted that the teacher was in the right. According to an education source, the boy was suspended for breaching school policy by secretly filming the teacher.

The row is the latest controversy surrounding transgender issues highlighted by The Mail on Sunday.

Earlier this month, London-based Pearson Edexcel exam board was accused of bowing to demands from transgender activists after swapping the word ‘sex’ for ‘gender’ in a GCSE biology paper.

Lincolnshire businessman and former police officer Harry Miller also found himself investigated by police for ‘hate crime’ for ‘liking’ a poem on Twitter questioning transgenderism.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7171195/Teenager-17-insisted-two-genders-suspended-school.html


Love to hear how ben can justify the schools action here? How is documenting something now a breach of school policy?

This is my concern with schools today, that are now so biased, no debate can be allowed in regards to ideologies

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