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Post by Syl on Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:05 pm

Has the BBC made a good decision here? They say they need the revenue, but if that's the case why take it out on pensioners when the fee's  paid to some TV stars (the majority male) is so astronomical?

"The BBC faced a ferocious backlash as Britain demanded: “Axe the tax.”
Angry pensioners blasted the move and urged the Beeb to save cash by instead cutting the salaries of big-name presenters.
Protesters from the National Pensioners Convention in Blackpool marched with a banner saying: “Save Our Free TV Licence.”
Tory leadership hopeful Matt Hancock said the BBC should reverse the decision and cut costs elsewhere.
Rivals Michael Gove and Esther McVey promised to decriminalise non-payment of the £154.50 licence fee.
Thousands are convicted every year, with a few offenders even sent to jail for failing to pay the £1,000 fines."


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9273865/bbc-backlash-tv-licences-petition-tories/


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Post by Syl on Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:09 pm

Pensioners on Universal credit will be exempt, but many older pensioners who are just under the threshold will have to pay.
Some are saying the TV and radio is there only source of pleasure, if they cant afford to keep their TV they may as well be dead.

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Post by nicko on Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:11 pm

I saw a list on Facebook on how much the top 20 are paid, the top man gets £665.000 a year . None of them get less than £120.000, Absolute rip off !
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Post by Syl on Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:13 pm

nicko wrote:I saw a list on Facebook on how much the top 20 are paid, the top man gets £665.000 a year . None of them get less than £120.000,   Absolute rip off !

No wonder so many people are choosing not to watch TV programmes at all and are turning to NETFLIX and other companies.
They do charge, but then they show more consistently good programmes.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:38 pm

Don't you guys allow advertisement revenue? How does it work? Is it like a cable connection?

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Original Quill wrote:Don't you guys allow advertisement revenue?  How does it work?  Is it like a cable connection?

The BBC dont raise money from advertising.

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Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:Don't you guys allow advertisement revenue?  How does it work?  Is it like a cable connection?

The BBC dont raise money from advertising.

Why not?

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Original Quill wrote:Don't you guys allow advertisement revenue?  How does it work?  Is it like a cable connection?
it is funded by a £154 a year tax on people who use it.

however you can cancel the licence here

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/cancellations-and-refunds-top7

many are taking that option now as it is no longer a requirement to have one for a TV as it was for many years even if you did not watch the BBC.


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Original Quill wrote:Don't you guys allow advertisement revenue?  How does it work?  Is it like a cable connection?
it is funded by a £154 a year tax on people

The answer is to allow advertising, and cut out the tax.

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The BBC dont raise money from advertising.

Why not?

No idea Quill, they have always earned revenue through the licence fee but if you own and watch TV here you have pay that fee, currently £154.50, whether you watch the BBC or not.

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it is funded by a £154 a year tax on people

The answer is to allow advertising, and cut out the tax.
the plus point for the BBC is it does not have advertising. I've been to america and have seen how they have ads every 7 minutes throughout shows even between the end and the credits.

A better option would be to hive off the bbc's news service which is no longer the envy of the world.

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The answer is to allow advertising, and cut out the tax.
the plus point for the BBC is it does not have advertising. I've been to america and have seen how they have ads every 7 minutes throughout shows even between the end and the credits.

A better option would be to hive off the bbc's news service which is no longer the envy of the world.

Watching TV is an elective, not a necessity.  I understand housing, healthcare, and police and fire protection...all necessities to live.  But TV is like a popsicle--you don't have to have one to live.

Seems a perfect match for free enterprise.  Put it out there, and if people want to watch it they can stomach the ads.  It's not as if they are being denied something essential to life.


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Post by Syl on Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:58 pm

The BBC is a very staid company, they dont like change obviously.
It'll probably be seldom watched soon anyway, most younger people I know now prefer NETFLIX and similar or watching stuff on the internet.

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the plus point for the BBC is it does not have advertising. I've been to america and have seen how they have ads every 7 minutes throughout shows even between the end and the credits.

A better option would be to hive off the bbc's news service which is no longer the envy of the world.

Watching TV is an elective, not a necessity.  I understand housing, healthcare, and police and fire protection...all necessities to live.  But TV is like a popsicle--you don't have to have one to live.

Seems a perfect match for free enterprise.  Put it out there, and if people want to watch it they can stomach the ads.  It's not as if they are being denied something essential to life.
until recently you did have to pay the tax licence fee if you had any receiving equipment at all, including a lower tax for radio only. That has changed recently which is why large numbers of people are cancelling their licences and there is little BBC can do about it.

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Syl wrote:The BBC is a very staid company, they dont like change obviously.
It'll probably be seldom watched soon anyway, most younger people I know now prefer NETFLIX and similar or watching stuff on the internet.

Yep, I've noticed the Internet is rapidly replacing TV, and relying on the free-market advertising, as I suggest. Staid or not, the BBC is about to be ignored anyway, so maybe it's fee is of no concern.

It's already been left behind.

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Syl wrote:The BBC is a very staid company, they dont like change obviously.
It'll probably be seldom watched soon anyway, most younger people I know now prefer NETFLIX and similar or watching stuff on the internet.

Yep, I've noticed the Internet is rapidly replacing TV, and relying on the free-market advertising, as I suggest.  Staid or not, the BBC is about to be ignored anyway, so maybe it's fee is of no concern.

It's already been left behind.

It is of concern to many over 75's who rely on TV not the internet for their entertainment though.
It's that generation who have supported the BBC by paying their licence fee for decades, it seems churlish to now deny them a little freebie once they reach 75 dont you think?


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the plus point for the BBC is it does not have advertising. I've been to america and have seen how they have ads every 7 minutes throughout shows even between the end and the credits.

A better option would be to hive off the bbc's news service which is no longer the envy of the world.

Watching TV is an elective, not a necessity.  I understand housing, healthcare, and police and fire protection...all necessities to live.  But TV is like a popsicle--you don't have to have one to live.

Seems a perfect match for free enterprise.  Put it out there, and if people want to watch it they can stomach the ads.  It's not as if they are being denied something essential to life.
the BBC is like a better version of PBS where those that watch it are supposed to pay, unlike pbs which is donation based. I dont mind most of the BBC. the news arm is no longer unbiased and lord reith would be spinning in his grave. And a lot of so called comedy panel shows seem to have had a collective mental breakdown around 2016 for some reason .But they do still create some quality programming, and have over the years produced some of the best sitcoms in the world.

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the plus point for the BBC is it does not have advertising. I've been to america and have seen how they have ads every 7 minutes throughout shows even between the end and the credits.

A better option would be to hive off the bbc's news service which is no longer the envy of the world.

Watching TV is an elective, not a necessity.  I understand housing, healthcare, and police and fire protection...all necessities to live.  But TV is like a popsicle--you don't have to have one to live.

Seems a perfect match for free enterprise.  Put it out there, and if people want to watch it they can stomach the ads.  It's not as if they are being denied something essential to life.
you may think that, my 95 years old mum who has not been out of the house since christmas due to illness might disagree.

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Watching TV is an elective, not a necessity.  I understand housing, healthcare, and police and fire protection...all necessities to live.  But TV is like a popsicle--you don't have to have one to live.

Seems a perfect match for free enterprise.  Put it out there, and if people want to watch it they can stomach the ads.  It's not as if they are being denied something essential to life.
until recently you did have to pay the tax licence fee if you had any receiving equipment at all, including a lower tax for radio only. That has changed recently which is why large numbers of people are cancelling their licences and there is little BBC can do about it.

See, that's more like our cable TV, which charges a fee for it's service...like a telephone service. It provides the equipment as well as the content, and adds on the content charge depending on what you order.

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Syl wrote:The BBC is a very staid company, they dont like change obviously.
It'll probably be seldom watched soon anyway, most younger people I know now prefer NETFLIX and similar or watching stuff on the internet.
I used my friends netflix login and watched everything that interested me in less than a month. I gave it back when they paid the obama's millions.
There are numerous ways to watch stuff online without paying for it these days. Although you may of course break local laws by doing so.

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Watching TV is an elective, not a necessity.  I understand housing, healthcare, and police and fire protection...all necessities to live.  But TV is like a popsicle--you don't have to have one to live.

Seems a perfect match for free enterprise.  Put it out there, and if people want to watch it they can stomach the ads.  It's not as if they are being denied something essential to life.
you may think that, my 95 years old mum who has not been out of the house since christmas due to illness might disagree.

Yes, thats the gist of many of the comments I have heard on radio phone ins.
Many elderly people (not all obviously) scrape by just under the threshold of being able to claim pension credits......they simply cant afford the licence money, and if that's their only means of entertainment it will certainly affect them.

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until recently you did have to pay the tax licence fee if you had any receiving equipment at all, including a lower tax for radio only. That has changed recently which is why large numbers of people are cancelling their licences and there is little BBC can do about it.

See, that's more like our cable TV, which charges a fee for it's service...like a telephone service.  It provides the equipment as well as the content, and adds on the content charge depending on what you order.
ah, but until recently if you had cable you had to pay the licence fee as well.

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Watching TV is an elective, not a necessity.  I understand housing, healthcare, and police and fire protection...all necessities to live.  But TV is like a popsicle--you don't have to have one to live.

Seems a perfect match for free enterprise.  Put it out there, and if people want to watch it they can stomach the ads.  It's not as if they are being denied something essential to life.
you may think that, my 95 years old mum who has not been out of the house since christmas due to illness might disagree.

Before TV they used to read books. You might need specs, but no worse than TV.

And letter-writing is a lost art now, which is unfortunate.

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Syl wrote:The BBC is a very staid company, they dont like change obviously.
It'll probably be seldom watched soon anyway, most younger people I know now prefer NETFLIX and similar or watching stuff on the internet.
I used my friends netflix login and watched everything that interested me in less than a month. I gave it back when they paid the obama's millions.
There are numerous ways to watch stuff online without paying for it these days. Although you may of course break local laws by doing so.

I watch Netflix, (on sons account) lots of stuff online, AND some BBC programmes. I think if I had to get rid of one it would be Netflix.

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you may think that, my 95 years old mum who has not been out of the house since christmas due to illness might disagree.

Yes, thats the gist of many of the comments I have heard on radio phone ins.
Many elderly people (not all obviously) scrape by just under the threshold of being able to claim pension credits......they simply cant afford the licence money, and if that's their only means of entertainment it will certainly affect them.
I imagine my mum will still be eligible as she only has the state pension and is in receipt of housing benefits. Which I might add she only started taking about a decade or so ago after she was forced to give up work when she needed a knee replacement. Until then she never too a penny in benefits which she had been entitled to for over 20 years and probably more.

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you may think that, my 95 years old mum who has not been out of the house since christmas due to illness might disagree.

Before TV they used to read books.  You might need specs, but no worse than TV.

And letter-writing is a lost art now, which is unfortunate.

Emails, texts and even forums have taken over from letter writing...it's a shame really.

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See, that's more like our cable TV, which charges a fee for it's service...like a telephone service. It provides the equipment as well as the content, and adds on the content charge depending on what you order.
ah, but until recently if you had cable you had to pay the licence fee as well.

Might still, but it's seen as a tax on the company. Kinda like Trump views tariffs--it's a levy on doing business--forget that it is passed on to the ultimate consumer. The real truth is, it doesn't raise eyebrows because its small and negligible.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:19 pm

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you may think that, my 95 years old mum who has not been out of the house since christmas due to illness might disagree.

Before TV they used to read books.  You might need specs, but no worse than TV.

And letter-writing is a lost art now, which is unfortunate.
who do you write to when all your friends are dead. not something my mother worries about yet as she still receives plenty of visitors each week. But sat alone at night, the TV gives her a window on the world.

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Post by Syl on Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:19 pm

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Yes, thats the gist of many of the comments I have heard on radio phone ins.
Many elderly people (not all obviously) scrape by just under the threshold of being able to claim pension credits......they simply cant afford the licence money, and if that's their only means of entertainment it will certainly affect them.
I imagine my mum will still be eligible as she only has the state pension and is in receipt of housing benefits. Which I might add she only started taking about a decade or so ago after she was forced to give up work when she needed a knee replacement. Until then she never too a penny in benefits which she had been entitled to for over 20 years and probably more.

She will still be entitled to receive a free licence then TD,YK.....till the BBC decide to give a few more over inflated salaries out to their favourites that is.

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ah, but until recently if you had cable you had to pay the licence fee as well.

Might still, but it's seen as a tax on the company.  Kinda like Trump views tariffs--it's a levy on doing business--forget that it is passed on to the ultimate consumer.  The real truth is, it doesn't raise eyebrows because its small and negligible.
you do understand most pensioners have to get by on about $150 a week £154 a year can be a big chunk of money for them

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I imagine my mum will still be eligible as she only has the state pension and is in receipt of housing benefits. Which I might add she only started taking about a decade or so ago after she was forced to give up work when she needed a knee replacement. Until then she never too a penny in benefits which she had been entitled to for over 20 years and probably more.

She will still be entitled to receive a free licence then TD,YK.....till the BBC decide to give a few more over inflated salaries out to their favourites that is.
well over 11000 people pay gary linekers salary. something that in my view is way to much

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Before TV they used to read books.  You might need specs, but no worse than TV.

And letter-writing is a lost art now, which is unfortunate.

Emails, texts and even forums have taken over from letter writing...it's a shame really.
not for my mum. She has a landline and freeview and that's it. She has a basic mobile but never switches it on.

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She will still be entitled to receive a free licence then TD,YK.....till the BBC decide to give a few more over inflated salaries out to their favourites that is.
well over 11000 people pay gary linekers salary. something that in my view is way to much

The BBC is very generous when selecting jobs for the boys.

BBC pay: The 2017-18 list of star salaries in full

Gary Lineker - £1,750,000-£1,759,999.
Chris Evans - £1,660,000-£1,669,999.
Graham Norton - £600,000-£609,999.
Steve Wright - £550,000-£559,999.
Huw Edwards - £520,000-£529,999.
Jeremy Vine - £440,000-£449,999.
Nicky Campbell - £410,000-£419,999.
Alan Shearer - £410,000-£419,999.



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Before TV they used to read books.  You might need specs, but no worse than TV.

And letter-writing is a lost art now, which is unfortunate.
who do you write to when all your friends are dead. not something my mother worries about yet as she still receives plenty of visitors each week. But sat alone at night, the TV gives her a window on the world.

Read Daniel Boorstin, The Creators (1992), which traces letters as the foundation of all accumulated knowledge. Letters became articles. Articles became pamphlets. Pamphlets became chapters, and chapters became books.

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Emails, texts and even forums have taken over from letter writing...it's a shame really.
not for my mum. She has a landline and freeview and that's it. She has a basic mobile but never switches it on.

Many of your mums generation are the same. Thats why it's very cold hearted to deny them the one pleasure many of them have.

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Post by Syl on Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:31 pm

My MIL lived to be 104. For the last couple of decades in her life her sole enjoyment was radio and TV. She couldn't see to read, but she could make out the TV and listen to it. Many old people are in the same boat.

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Syl wrote:My MIL lived to be 104. For the last couple of decades in her life her sole enjoyment was radio and TV. She couldn't see to read, but she could make out the TV and listen to it. Many old people are in the same boat.

That's bogus. If you can see for TV, you can see to read. Get the right specs.

Thing is, TV is easier and people are lazy.

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Syl wrote:My MIL lived to be 104. For the last couple of decades in her life her sole enjoyment was radio and TV. She couldn't see to read, but she could make out the TV and listen to it. Many old people are in the same boat.

That's bogus.  If you can see for TV, you can see to read.  Get the right specs.

Thing is, TV is easier and people are lazy.

Dont be so heartless, she was actually registered blind but she could see vague movements on the TV, and because she followed the soaps (for example) she felt she knew what was happening.


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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:58 pm

From a purely personal standpoint I can't complain, as I am fortunate enough (or unfortunate enough, depending on one's point of view) to be a higher rate taxpayer.

Had the BBC withdrawn the concession from those of us paying 40 per cent or higher  tax on our incomes then it might well have been more acceptable. As it is, and given the fact that it is a huge sum for anyone on basic state pension, even if boosted by a few quid of investment income, it is a pretty savage kick in the teeth, particularly as the bulk of the programming and much of the news  and current affairs coverage and comment is overtly politically correct, Left of centre and aimed increasingly at "yoof."

And those idiotic, telephone number salaries paid to top staff and so-called celebrity "talent" simply rub salt into the wound.

I have a feeling that the BBC and/or government may well be forced into a humiliating climb down on this.
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Fred Moletrousers wrote:From a purely personal standpoint I can't complain, as I am fortunate enough (or unfortunate enough, depending on one's point of view) to be a higher rate taxpayer.

Had the BBC withdrawn the concession from those of us paying 40 per cent or higher  tax on our incomes then it might well have been more acceptable. As it is, and given the fact that it is a huge sum for anyone on basic state pension, even if boosted by a few quid of investment income, it is a pretty savage kick in the teeth, particularly as the bulk of the programming and much of the news  and current affairs coverage and comment is not only overtly politically correct, Left of centre and aimed substantially at "yoof."

And those idiotic, telephone number salaries paid to top staff and so-called celebrity "talent" simply rub salt into the wound.

I have a feeling that the BBC and/or government may well be forced into a humiliating climb down on this.

There is already talk of decriminalising the watching of TV without the TV licence....so where does that leave the BBC?
Probably deciding whose salaries to cut and which products to advertise in future. Razz

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who do you write to when all your friends are dead. not something my mother worries about yet as she still receives plenty of visitors each week. But sat alone at night, the TV gives her a window on the world.

Read Daniel Boorstin, The Creators (1992), which traces letters as the foundation of all accumulated knowledge.  Letters became articles.  Articles became pamphlets.  Pamphlets became chapters, and chapters became books.
we aren;t discussing letters. What do you expect pensioners to do all day, sit scribbling letters, you do know how expensive stamps are these days.

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Syl wrote:My MIL lived to be 104. For the last couple of decades in her life her sole enjoyment was radio and TV. She couldn't see to read, but she could make out the TV and listen to it. Many old people are in the same boat.

That's bogus.  If you can see for TV, you can see to read.  Get the right specs.

Thing is, TV is easier and people are lazy.
lets hope you never get old

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Read Daniel Boorstin, The Creators (1992), which traces letters as the foundation of all accumulated knowledge.  Letters became articles.  Articles became pamphlets.  Pamphlets became chapters, and chapters became books.

we aren;t discussing letters. What do you expect pensioners to do all day, sit scribbling letters, you do know how expensive stamps are these days.

Exactly! Return to a richer, fuller life, one that exercises one's mental faculties and gives more meaning to life.

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we aren;t discussing letters. What do you expect pensioners to do all day, sit scribbling letters, you do know how expensive stamps are these days.

Exactly!  Return to a richer, fuller life, one that exercises one's mental faculties and gives more meaning to life.

Writing letters is quite hard if one is registered blind.
Have you thought that many very elderly people who rely on the TV dont have anyone left to write letters to?

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Exactly!  Return to a richer, fuller life, one that exercises one's mental faculties and gives more meaning to life.

Writing letters is quite hard if one is  registered blind.
Have you thought that many very elderly people who rely on the TV dont have anyone left to write letters to?

They needn't write only to other seniors.  Getting into the habit of writing, like anything, increases the opportunity to expand.  They will find others, if only they put their interests and willingness to communicate out there.

Even with the Internet, I communicate with several famous doctors and professors around the world.  It's exciting to know who they are, but even more enriching to trade ideas.  Indeed, with TV they are totally inaccessible, but with the return of interactive writing, much more is possible.

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Writing letters is quite hard if one is  registered blind.
Have you thought that many very elderly people who rely on the TV dont have anyone left to write letters to?

They needn't write only to other seniors.  Getting into the habit of writing, like anything, increases the opportunity to expand.  They will find others, if only they put their interests and willingness to communicate out there.

Even with the Internet, I communicate with several famous doctors and professors, around the world.  It's exciting to know who they are, but even more enriching to trade ideas.  Indeed, with TV they are totally inaccessible, but with the return of interactive writing, much more is possible.


Good for you, see if you do the same in 30, 40, 50 years time....do write and let me know. Wink

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Writing letters is quite hard if one is  registered blind.
Have you thought that many very elderly people who rely on the TV dont have anyone left to write letters to?

They needn't write only to other seniors.  Getting into the habit of writing, like anything, increases the opportunity to expand.  They will find others, if only they put their interests and willingness to communicate out there.

Even with the Internet, I communicate with several famous doctors and professors around the world.  It's exciting to know who they are, but even more enriching to trade ideas.  Indeed, with TV they are totally inaccessible, but with the return of interactive writing, much more is possible.
once again where are the people on $150 a week going to get the costs of the stamps to send all these letters. they already, according to some, have to choose between eating and heating

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Post by nicko on Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:43 pm

Quill, what's the price of the cheapest stamp where you are ?
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nicko wrote:Quill, what's the price of the cheapest stamp where you are ?

A first class postage stamp is presently .49-cents. I think you can buy stamps down to .01-cents, to add or make multiple postage.

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I haven’t paid my TV licence for about four years despite getting red letters. They have never come after me.
I won’t pay it because I don’t watch much TV apart from Netflix and I can’t remember the last time I watched anything at all on any BBC channel.
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