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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon May 27, 2019 11:26 pm

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THIS Welsh town is being "abandoned" as rising sea levels could see it vanish in just 25 years.

Fairbourne is tipped to become the first in the UK to be relocated due to the threat of climate change, known as "decommissioning".

This could mean that the 850 people living there could be forced to leave their homes.

Shops would be shut down and the 400 homes would be demolished.

Fairbourne is just a few feet away from the sea of Barmouth Bay, which is getting closer as sea levels continue to rise.

A Shoreline Management Plan for the west of Wales “raises significant concerns over the future sustainability of the defence of Fairbourne”.

Gwynedd Council the town needs to be considered for decommission, confirming that relocating residents is a certainty.

400 HOMES COULD BE DEMOLISHED
Estimates predict that this could happen as early as 2042.

The council is planning to move locals before 2054, when they say “sea level rises and changing weather patterns will mean that it will not be possible to further bolster the village’s sea defences”.

After this there will be no more money spent on defending the town.

Natural Resources Wales has already spent more than £6million on a flood risk management scheme in the area in the last four years

There are currently no plans in place for homeowners to receive compensation if they have to move.

Scientists think that sea levels are now rising at the extreme end of what was predicted to happen gradually just a few years ago.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9160869/fairbourne-wales-abandoned-sea-levels-global-warming/

When the effects of climate change come to your front door, will people finally admit there's an urgent problem?

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Post by Cass on Mon May 27, 2019 11:36 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Residents already abandoning a village threatened by rising sea levels -- in Wales NINTCHDBPICT000214079414

THIS Welsh town is being "abandoned" as rising sea levels could see it vanish in just 25 years.

Fairbourne is tipped to become the first in the UK to be relocated due to the threat of climate change, known as "decommissioning".

This could mean that the 850 people living there could be forced to leave their homes.

Shops would be shut down and the 400 homes would be demolished.

Fairbourne is just a few feet away from the sea of Barmouth Bay, which is getting closer as sea levels continue to rise.

A Shoreline Management Plan for the west of Wales “raises significant concerns over the future sustainability of the defence of Fairbourne”.

Gwynedd Council the town needs to be considered for decommission, confirming that relocating residents is a certainty.

400 HOMES COULD BE DEMOLISHED
Estimates predict that this could happen as early as 2042.

The council is planning to move locals before 2054, when they say “sea level rises and changing weather patterns will mean that it will not be possible to further bolster the village’s sea defences”.

After this there will be no more money spent on defending the town.

Natural Resources Wales has already spent more than £6million on a flood risk management scheme in the area in the last four years

There are currently no plans in place for homeowners to receive compensation if they have to move.

Scientists think that sea levels are now rising at the extreme end of what was predicted to happen gradually just a few years ago.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9160869/fairbourne-wales-abandoned-sea-levels-global-warming/

When the effects of climate change come to your front door, will people finally admit there's an urgent problem?

Yes. Until horrific events personally happen to majority of people or their loved ones, they just don’t get it or offer meaningless platitudes.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon May 27, 2019 11:48 pm

About a million and a half UK homes on the coasts are threatened by rising sea levels; this according to the Daily Mail Laughing

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Post by Vintage on Mon May 27, 2019 11:55 pm

There are stories of Cardigan Bay once being dry land with rich farm lands, the sea inundated the land and farms, which may or may not be true that there were farms there but there is evidence of bronze age woodland there, tree stumps can be seen after big storms strip away the sands, also stone walls and roads leading into the sea.
https://aslanhub.com/lost-lands-of-wales/

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Post by eddie on Tue May 28, 2019 12:26 am

Ben Reilly said
When the effects of climate change come to your front door, will people finally admit there's an urgent problem?

I have no idea why some people can’t see it. I only really go by what I see with my own eyes, hear with my own ears and experience with my own perception.

And climate change is happening.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue May 28, 2019 12:51 am



Load of guff...!



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Post by Eilzel on Tue May 28, 2019 12:53 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

Load of guff...!



I love how you've given up even trying to make your case on this. But then, it doesn't affect you so why would you care.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Tue May 28, 2019 3:05 am

Razz

Tommy, smelly' and DYKnose are continually telling us that accelerated climate change doesn't exist -- that it is supposedly some gigantic worldwide conspiracy by 'greenies', commies, the Pentagon, farmers, fishers and foresters, solar panel and wind turbine manufacturers, Pacific Islanders, and the melting icecaps themselves, all with the singular purpose of funnelling "$$billions$$" into Al Gores bank accounts each year...

I propose that the British government should henceforth employ Tommy, smelly and Deano into a "climate denialist disinformation ministry" and send tham out to placate and pacify any and all of those serfs and peasants worrying over rising sea levels..

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Post by Vintage on Tue May 28, 2019 10:16 am

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2014/03/21/what-the-bronze-age-forest-tells-us-about-past-sea-levels/
This is interesting.

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Post by Syl on Tue May 28, 2019 12:35 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Load of guff...!


Have you ever been to Fairbourne Tommy?

We have gotten the ferry from Barmouth over to the little train station, taken the steam train from Barmouth into Fairbourne a few times....it was a nice day out for the grandkids, there used to be a mini golf where the kids would play for a couple of hours.
Last time we went it was allready looking like a ghost town, the golf had gone, the pub remains, but it was empty, the whole village looked forgotten about to me.
The beach is just stone and rock, and it was noticable that over the last 10 years the defences seem to be more inadequate for what is happening there.

http://www.fairbournerailway.com/barmouth-ferry.htm

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue May 28, 2019 7:22 pm




Trip advisor review in 2019...


https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g1475575-Activities-Fairbourne_Gwynedd_North_Wales_Wales.html


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Post by nicko on Tue May 28, 2019 8:03 pm

Most of the houses in coastal areas that are being abandoned, are not from rising Sea levels but from Coastal Erosion !
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Post by Syl on Tue May 28, 2019 8:29 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:


Trip advisor review in 2019...


https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g1475575-Activities-Fairbourne_Gwynedd_North_Wales_Wales.html


The crazy golf for kids has gone, the pub was empty, and I have no idea where the amusements are, they must be in the tiny shop that sells buckets and spades or the back room of the pub.
The scenery is, as it  is  in most areas of Wales.... spectacular.

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Post by Victorismyhero on Tue May 28, 2019 10:35 pm

neither does anyone mention that in some areas land is being built up by deposition OR the fact that along a north east to south west line the country is sinking in the south and rising in the north as a result of rebound from the release of the weight of 2 miles of ice in the last ice age. Sinking at a rate of up to 3mm per YEAR of course the subsequent apparant rise of sea level id SOLEY due to climate change innit....

so explain why scotland is GAINING on sea levels??????

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed May 29, 2019 7:14 am

Victorismyhero wrote:neither does anyone mention that in some areas land is being built up by deposition OR the fact that along a north east to south west line the country is sinking in the south and rising in the north as a result of rebound from the release of the weight of 2 miles of ice in the last ice age. Sinking at a rate of up to 3mm per YEAR   of course the subsequent apparant rise of sea level id SOLEY due to climate change innit....

so explain why scotland is GAINING on sea levels??????

It's not gaining as fast as it had been, and is expected to start losing to sea levels before too much longer. https://www.nature.scot/landforms-and-geology/scotlands-rocks-landforms-and-soils/landforms/coasts/present-and-future-sea-levels

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Post by 'Wolfie on Wed May 29, 2019 9:46 am

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All of those poor dispaced Welshmen & 'women will just have to migrate north to Scotland...

Except, who will pay for it ?

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Post by Andy on Thu May 30, 2019 9:04 am

Let's ship Tommy Spunk and Skunk Stenchbandit there for their retirement.
They can delight as the rising sea laps over their veranda.

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Post by Syl on Thu May 30, 2019 1:27 pm

Andy wrote:Let's ship Tommy Spunk and Skunk Stenchbandit there for their retirement.
They can delight as the rising sea laps over their veranda.

Am I the only one who has no idea who you mean most of the time when you and wolf give posters reidiculous nicnames? scratch

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Post by Andy on Thu May 30, 2019 3:29 pm

Syl wrote:
Andy wrote:Let's ship Tommy Spunk and Skunk Stenchbandit there for their retirement.
They can delight as the rising sea laps over their veranda.

Am I the only one who has no idea who you mean most of the time when you and wolf give posters reidiculous nicnames? scratch
Yes. You are the only one.

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Post by Syl on Thu May 30, 2019 4:48 pm

Andy wrote:
Syl wrote:

Am I the only one who has no idea who you mean most of the time when you and wolf give posters reidiculous nicnames? scratch
Yes. You are the only one.

Amazing how you have the knowledge to speak for the whole forum. Razz

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Post by Vintage on Thu May 30, 2019 7:16 pm

Silly nicknames - its a bit schoolyard isn't or maybe its a left wing thing, an attempt at a kind of weird rhyming slang language or the reverse speak thing(but not).

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Post by Original Quill on Thu May 30, 2019 11:43 pm

Vintage wrote:Silly nicknames - its a bit schoolyard isn't or maybe its a left wing thing, an attempt at a kind of weird rhyming slang language or the reverse speak thing(but not).

Shocked   Left wing?  Nicknames are left wing?

You think Russo-Republican Donald Trump is left wing?  He's the master of nicknames.

Wikipedia wrote:United States President, businessman, and television personality Donald Trump became widely known during the 2016 United States presidential election and his subsequent presidency for using nicknames to criticize foreign leaders, media figures, and politicians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri May 31, 2019 12:27 am



https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2016/02/12/welsh-village-to-sue-government-over-alarmist-rising-sea-level-claim/amp/


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Post by Syl on Fri May 31, 2019 12:28 am

I dont get this left wing right wing mentality of branding everyone who does this or that as belinging to a certain political party, so therfore they have the same mindset in everything they say and do..
There are childish name calling idiots in every corner, their political leanings have nothing to do with it..

Its as mad a comparison as saying all blondes are stupid.

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Post by Cass on Fri May 31, 2019 3:36 am

Here we go again...sigh...

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Post by 'Wolfie on Fri May 31, 2019 10:40 am

Andy wrote:
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Am I the only one who has no idea who you mean most of the time when you and wolf give posters reidiculous nicnames? scratch
Yes. You are the only one.

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Sly and vintage only wish that they could come out with nicknames even half as funny..

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Post by Vintage on Fri May 31, 2019 12:17 pm

Oh yes you are quite right, I spend all my waking hours wishing I was as adroit as Andy at thinking up silly nicknames.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Fri May 31, 2019 3:20 pm

Cool

The image that Vintage's boorish bluster usually brings to mind -- they've let the silly old woman loose, again...

https://youtu.be/hnzHtm1jhL4

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Post by nicko on Fri May 31, 2019 4:10 pm

Take that chip off your shoulder Woman hater, and keyboard warrior !
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Post by Vintage on Fri May 31, 2019 4:34 pm

That's a bit mild for you Wolfie, going soft are we, more teacup terrier than Wolf, aye?

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Post by nicko on Fri May 31, 2019 6:45 pm

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Post by Syl on Fri May 31, 2019 6:55 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Andy wrote:
Yes. You are the only one.

Razz

"Jealousy is a curse  !"

Sly and vintage only wish that they could come out with nicknames even half as funny..

Funny?? For a 61 year old man I think it's quite retarded.

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Post by Vintage on Fri May 31, 2019 7:16 pm

He's 61? and he calls others old duffers?

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Post by 'Wolfie on Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:53 am

Vintage wrote:
He's 61? and he calls others old duffers?

tongue

"Old" is someone 10 years older than what you are at the moment...

'Age is all a state of mind.'

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