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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed May 08, 2019 6:30 pm

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Post by Andy on Fri May 10, 2019 7:57 am

Don't forget, Les, Skunk Stenchbandit hates Meghan because she is black. And he likens her offspring to chimps.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Fri May 10, 2019 9:12 am

Smile

Meghan isn't "black"..    She's more a pleasant 'coffee' shade of brown...

Except in the Deep South of the USA..
And those backblocks of England where Smelly's parents' council house basement resides.

I have cousins with darker complexions than Meghan Markle..


Smelly'  isn't the only racist slimebag around here --  but also any scum willing to stand by him...

And only Smelly' himself will ever know why he is so mortally afraid of anybody with a darker skin colouring than him..

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Post by Jules on Fri May 10, 2019 10:27 am

Well I tried to lighten the mood by trying to get him to say a bit more about his childhood Smile .  It would also show the human side of him if he talked about it some more. But he ain't playing ball lol.

He deliberately projects an austere RW persona, tries too hard to come across as a hard-bitten draconian, not buying it!  Surprised

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Post by Guest on Fri May 10, 2019 10:30 am

Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

If it's convincing enough???

that sounds encouraging

I can't imagine you give a damn about my apology in ny case, so nothing to lose really Wink

I wonder how that's gonna turn out

You're investigating yourself?? And you're the one who decides if you've done wrong.

Hhhmmm sounds like the game might be rigged

Besides I don't really fancy taking hold of your sloppy seconds after thought, should have given it due diligence in the beginning then your fairness as a mod wouldn't be in doubt.


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Post by Guest on Fri May 10, 2019 10:31 am

Andy wrote:Don't forget, Les, Skunk Stenchbandit hates Meghan because she is black. And he likens her offspring to chimps.

Lol


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Post by Eilzel on Fri May 10, 2019 10:48 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

If it's convincing enough???

that sounds encouraging

I can't imagine you give a damn about my apology in ny case, so nothing to lose really Wink

I wonder how that's gonna turn out

You're investigating yourself?? And you're the one who decides if you've done wrong.

Hhhmmm sounds like the game might be rigged

Besides I don't really fancy taking hold of your sloppy seconds after thought, should have given it due diligence in the beginning then your fairness as a mod wouldn't be in doubt.


I'd act exactly the same again if similar occured, since I've no reason to believe I was wrong.

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Post by Syl on Fri May 10, 2019 12:49 pm

Just an idea....maybe the post could be shown again and people can vote in a poll on whether they saw deliberate racism in the remark posted underneath it..

I saw the post at the time and I did think it was racist, it was obviously likening black people to chimps.
I think Smelly had a Danny Baker moment and just wont admit it. Twisted Evil

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Post by Guest on Fri May 10, 2019 12:50 pm

Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

I wonder how that's gonna turn out

You're investigating yourself?? And you're the one who decides if you've done wrong.

Hhhmmm sounds like the game might be rigged

Besides I don't really fancy taking hold of your sloppy seconds after thought, should have given it due diligence in the beginning then your fairness as a mod wouldn't be in doubt.


I'd act exactly the same again if similar occured, since I've no reason to believe I was wrong.

Then why does eddie disagree

She said you were wrong not to challenge me on it, said she would have done before deciding

So, since you're both moda it means either she is wrong or you are.




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Post by Guest on Fri May 10, 2019 12:51 pm

Syl wrote:Just an idea....maybe the post could be shown again and people can vote in a poll on whether they saw deliberate racism in the remark posted underneath it..

I saw the post at the time and I did think it was racist, it was obviously likening black people to chimps.
I think Smelly had a Danny Baker moment and just wont admit it. Twisted Evil

Why don't we show the post and I can give my side of the story and then people can decide based on what's said instead of what they want to see

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Post by Syl on Fri May 10, 2019 12:58 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
Syl wrote:Just an idea....maybe the post could be shown again and people can vote in a poll on whether they saw deliberate racism in the remark posted underneath it..

I saw the post at the time and I did think it was racist, it was obviously likening black people to chimps.
I think Smelly had a Danny Baker moment and just wont admit it. Twisted Evil

Why don't we show the post and I can give my side of the story and then people can decide based on what's said instead of what they want to see

I think that is a very good idea.

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Post by Eilzel on Fri May 10, 2019 1:12 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

I wonder how that's gonna turn out

You're investigating yourself?? And you're the one who decides if you've done wrong.

Hhhmmm sounds like the game might be rigged

Besides I don't really fancy taking hold of your sloppy seconds after thought, should have given it due diligence in the beginning then your fairness as a mod wouldn't be in doubt.


I'd act exactly the same again if similar occured, since I've no reason to believe I was wrong.

Then why does eddie disagree

She said you were wrong not to challenge me on it, said she would have done before deciding

So, since you're both moda it means either she is wrong or you are.




Or it means we disagree in how we'd have handled it.

She wasn't online, I was. Sucks for you. You might have been perma banned had other mods clocked it Laughing

As to reposting the offending items, I'll leave that to Ben.

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Post by Guest on Fri May 10, 2019 1:17 pm

Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

Then why does eddie disagree

She said you were wrong not to challenge me on it, said she would have done before deciding

So, since you're both moda it means either she is wrong or you are.




Or it means we disagree in how we'd have handled it.

She wasn't online, I was. Sucks for you. You might have been perma banned had other mods clocked it Laughing

As to reposting the offending items, I'll leave that to Ben.

No.


You said you

"I'd act exactly the same again if similar occured, since I've no reason to believe I was wrong."

So if you don't think you are wrong then you must think eddie is wrong, becasue she openly disagrees with how you handled it.

Which means.......... Someone is wrong

So who is it??

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Post by Eilzel on Fri May 10, 2019 1:28 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

Then why does eddie disagree

She said you were wrong not to challenge me on it, said she would have done before deciding

So, since you're both moda it means either she is wrong or you are.




Or it means we disagree in how we'd have handled it.

She wasn't online, I was. Sucks for you. You might have been perma banned had other mods clocked it Laughing

As to reposting the offending items, I'll leave that to Ben.

No.


You said you

"I'd act exactly the same again if similar occured, since I've no reason to believe I was wrong."

So if you don't think you are wrong then you must think eddie is wrong, becasue she openly disagrees with how you handled it.

Which means.......... Someone is wrong

So who is it??

Eddie would've asked you, that's all.

Much as I know you want to create conflict, it won't work.
I don't think you'd have had a good answer, so the result would've been the same Wink

Regardless, mods will handle things differently. It isn't about right and wrong, we act how we think is best at the time based on the rules.

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Post by Guest on Fri May 10, 2019 2:34 pm

Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

No.


You said you

"I'd act exactly the same again if similar occured, since I've no reason to believe I was wrong."

So if you don't think you are wrong then you must think eddie is wrong, becasue she openly disagrees with how you handled it.

Which means.......... Someone is wrong

So who is it??

Eddie would've asked you, that's all.

Much as I know you want to create conflict, it won't work.
I don't think you'd have had a good answer, so the result would've been the same Wink

Regardless, mods will handle things differently. It isn't about right and wrong, we act how we think is best at the time based on the rules.

Well

Eddie says you are wrong

I agree with her

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat May 18, 2019 2:51 pm



Wonder what the result would be if the votes by mods were discounted...?


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Post by Andy on Sat May 18, 2019 3:23 pm

It is 9/7. A majority, but only just. Which means 45% of posters have issues of one sort or another with the mods.

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Post by Eilzel on Sat May 18, 2019 3:25 pm

This mod didn't vote, I doubt the others did either.

And claims of bias cancel each other out.

So it's 9/5 Smile

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Post by Andy on Sat May 18, 2019 4:41 pm

You are incorrect Les, insofar as the 2 who claimed mods show bias should be added to the no vote, not neutralized.
No different to to Labour remainers and Tory remainers. Both against Brexit, but from differing starting points. Their does don't cancel each other out, they are added together to give the remain vote.

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Post by Eilzel on Sat May 18, 2019 4:49 pm

Andy wrote:You are incorrect Les, insofar as the 2 who claimed mods show bias should be added to the no vote, not neutralized.
No different to to Labour remainers and Tory remainers. Both against Brexit, but from differing starting points. Their does don't cancel each other out, they are added together to give the remain vote.

But in this case we have two contradictory statements. We cannot favour both Left and Right. In this case it is more likely the two who voted simply cannot get over their own biases and only see us acting one way or never the other.

And even if you don't invalidate them, it's still 9-7 Wink

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Post by Andy on Sat May 18, 2019 6:12 pm

Like the referendum, a binary question such as "Are the mods biased?"  Yes or no  would have been less ambiguous.
 But a 9/7 or even 9/5 vote is underwhelming support for the mods as a collective.
More clarity would be provided listing the mods then having a thumbs up or down alongside each name.
It's all semantics and irrelevant, as it's Ben's and Eddie's forum, and their rules.

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Post by eddie on Sat May 18, 2019 6:59 pm

Andy wrote:Like the referendum, a binary question such as "Are the mods biased?"  Yes or no  would have been less ambiguous.
 But a 9/7 or even 9/5 vote is underwhelming support for the mods as a collective.
More clarity would be provided listing the mods then having a thumbs up or down alongside each name.
It's all semantics and irrelevant, as it's Ben's and Eddie's forum, and their rules.

No, it’s Ben’s forum.

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Post by Andy on Sat May 18, 2019 7:33 pm

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Not just bodily fluids!😝

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Post by Guest on Sat May 18, 2019 8:21 pm

Andy wrote:Like the referendum, a binary question such as "Are the mods biased?"  Yes or no  would have been less ambiguous.
 But a 9/7 or even 9/5 vote is underwhelming support for the mods as a collective.
More clarity would be provided listing the mods then having a thumbs up or down alongside each name.
It's all semantics and irrelevant, as it's Ben's and Eddie's forum, and their rules.

dont bitch............BITCH

a wins a win

we won brexit

the mods of newsFIX won

#secondvotewedidntknowwhatwevotedfor




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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat May 18, 2019 8:25 pm

I can't vote - I've been disenfranchised!

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Post by Andy on Sat May 18, 2019 9:17 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
Andy wrote:Like the referendum, a binary question such as "Are the mods biased?"  Yes or no  would have been less ambiguous.
 But a 9/7 or even 9/5 vote is underwhelming support for the mods as a collective.
More clarity would be provided listing the mods then having a thumbs up or down alongside each name.
It's all semantics and irrelevant, as it's Ben's and Eddie's forum, and their rules.

dont bitch............BITCH

a wins a win

we won brexit

the mods of newsFIX won

#secondvotewedidntknowwhatwevotedfor



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Post by Eilzel on Sun May 19, 2019 5:42 am

Andy wrote:Like the referendum, a binary question such as "Are the mods biased?"  Yes or no  would have been less ambiguous.
 But a 9/7 or even 9/5 vote is underwhelming support for the mods as a collective.
More clarity would be provided listing the mods then having a thumbs up or down alongside each name.
It's all semantics and irrelevant, as it's Ben's and Eddie's forum, and their rules.

It is irrelevant.

Even if we did your selection of polls - what would be the end goal?

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Post by Andy on Sun May 19, 2019 9:23 am

To prove the mods dont have unanimous support from everyone. 
You are good Les, only one lowers the bar.

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Post by phildidge on Sun May 19, 2019 9:51 am

Andy wrote:To prove the mods dont have unanimous support from everyone. 
You are good Les, only one lowers the bar.

Andy, everyone has a form of bias. Nobody can deny that, including you and me.
What matters is if the mods can overcome this bias when moderating and they consistantly do
You may not agree, but the reality is. In 95% of moderation, it has been fair, with about 5% questionable. I think that is a sound record.
What you need to do is recognise when you cross the line, just as I do. Yes i think some are given more slack than others, but consistantly the rules have been applied fairly evenly
We need to stop making it personal. As at times, we dont make their lives any easier in how we act

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Post by Andy on Sun May 19, 2019 10:04 am

I am becoming a more reclusive and infrequent poster, having 3 part time jobs does that to you.
Hated doing nothing when I retired, now have no time to spare!

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Post by phildidge on Sun May 19, 2019 10:09 am

Andy wrote:I am becoming a more reclusive and infrequent poster, having 3 part time jobs does that to you.
Hated doing nothing when I retired, now have no time to spare!

Glad you found some things that you enjoy Andy

I am taking some time out of work for a while. I have enough money to do so

See you in the future mate, as leaving tomorrow for a while to Ireland

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Post by Andy on Sun May 19, 2019 10:35 am

Have a good visit mate. Not the best of circumstances, but RoI  is a beautiful country with lively people.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sun May 19, 2019 10:36 am

Andy wrote:I am becoming a more reclusive and infrequent poster, having 3 part time jobs does that to you.
Hated doing nothing when I retired, now have no time to spare!

That sounds interesting Andy. I think about retiring (a bit early) but I'm not sure I'd know what to do all day. Laughing Three part-time jobs sounds like fun.

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Post by phildidge on Sun May 19, 2019 10:43 am

Andy wrote:Have a good visit mate. Not the best of circumstances, but RoI  is a beautiful country with lively people.

Thanks mate, appreaciate your kind words and agree its beautiful there

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Post by Andy on Sun May 19, 2019 2:30 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Andy wrote:I am becoming a more reclusive and infrequent poster, having 3 part time jobs does that to you.
Hated doing nothing when I retired, now have no time to spare!

That sounds interesting Andy. I think about retiring (a bit early) but I'm not sure I'd know what to do all day. Laughing Three part-time jobs sounds like fun.
Got a p/t job at Mrs HA's school as an exam invigilator. Head hunted by the local university doing the same thing with undergraduates. And have started a self employed garden clearance and maintenance thingy, 3 hours a day, cash in hand.

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Post by Cass on Mon May 20, 2019 6:21 am

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That sounds interesting Andy. I think about retiring (a bit early) but I'm not sure I'd know what to do all day. Laughing Three part-time jobs sounds like fun.
Got a p/t job at Mrs HA's school as an exam invigilator. Head hunted by the local university doing the same thing with undergraduates. And have started a self employed garden clearance and maintenance thingy, 3 hours a day, cash in hand.

Come do my garden. Bring Mrs. A for a holiday. I’ll cook.

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Post by Andy on Mon May 20, 2019 6:58 am

.might hold you to that Cass.
Until late summer, I have a big project, a colossal garden 350' long, total jungle.
Getting a mini JCB digger in for it .

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Post by Cass on Mon May 20, 2019 9:06 pm

Andy wrote:.might hold you to that Cass.
Until late summer, I have a big project, a colossal garden 350' long, total jungle.
Getting a mini JCB digger in for it .

Wow! Mind you I want all the gravel in the back gone so it may require that too!

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Post by eddie on Mon May 20, 2019 9:17 pm

Cass wrote:
Andy wrote:.might hold you to that Cass.
Until late summer, I have a big project, a colossal garden 350' long, total jungle.
Getting a mini JCB digger in for it .

Wow! Mind you I want all the gravel in the back gone so it may require that too!

Watch it Andy...she promises cookies but I’ve been waiting for about seven years.

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Post by Maddog on Wed May 22, 2019 7:56 pm

Andy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

That sounds interesting Andy. I think about retiring (a bit early) but I'm not sure I'd know what to do all day. Laughing Three part-time jobs sounds like fun.
Got a p/t job at Mrs HA's school as an exam invigilator. Head hunted by the local university doing the same thing with undergraduates. And have started a self employed garden clearance and maintenance thingy, 3 hours a day, cash in hand.

Cash is good. Government doesn't know about it that way. Thieving bastards. Smile

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Post by Tommy Monk on Wed May 22, 2019 9:11 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Wonder what the result would be if the votes by mods were discounted...?



Can we see a poll result that is without the votes of mods included in it?



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Post by eddie on Wed May 22, 2019 9:45 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

Wonder what the result would be if the votes by mods were discounted...?



Can we see a poll result that is without the votes of mods included in it?



Wow. You really got the bit between your teeth on this, huh? Rolling Eyes

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu May 23, 2019 12:01 am



Just asking a question...


Waiting for the answer...


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Post by Cass on Thu May 23, 2019 3:09 am

eddie wrote:
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Wow! Mind you I want all the gravel in the back gone so it may require that too!

Watch it Andy...she promises cookies but I’ve been waiting for about seven years.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu May 23, 2019 6:18 pm

Andy wrote:That's utter bollocks, and you know it.
I am as diametrically opposite to someone like Nicko as it. possible to get. Opposing politics, opposing Brexit.
But we have been having a friendly and respectful chat offline.


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my opinion is, and always has been, why do you need mods on a forum that has less than a dozen regulars. it's bound to be inconsistent.

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Post by Andy on Thu May 23, 2019 7:04 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Andy wrote:That's utter bollocks, and you know it.
I am as diametrically opposite to someone like Nicko as it. possible to get. Opposing politics, opposing Brexit.
But we have been having a friendly and respectful chat offline.


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Ask Nicko then. Wanker.

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Post by Cass on Thu May 23, 2019 8:02 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:my opinion is, and always has been, why do you need mods on a forum that has less than a dozen regulars. it's bound to be inconsistent.

Because it’s Ben’s forum and that is how he likes it, just as you like yours with just you.

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Post by Jules on Thu May 23, 2019 9:30 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:my opinion is, and always has been, why do you need mods on a forum that has less than a dozen regulars. it's bound to be inconsistent.

Every site owner has their own way of doing things. Laughing
It's clearly a matter of personal preference that the owner likes having several mods - as simple as that.

No, the number of regulars here is nearer 2 dozen. Which is adequate.
I regard myself as a regular tho I sometimes go for days or even weeks without posting.

No forum is perfect, they all have flaws but this one ticks enough boxes for me to like it.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Thu May 23, 2019 10:36 pm

Jules wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:my opinion is, and always has been, why do you need mods on a forum that has less than a dozen regulars. it's bound to be inconsistent.

Every site owner has their own way of doing things. Laughing
It's clearly a matter of personal preference that the owner likes having several mods - as simple as that.

No, the number of regulars here is nearer 2 dozen. Which is adequate.
I regard myself as a regular tho I sometimes go for days or even weeks without posting.

No forum is perfect, they all have flaws but this one ticks enough boxes for me to like it.
I must have missed all those extras. the point it still valid. One person could apply a single unified approach on sites like this and still not have enough work to do. Mostly mods are handed power to make them feel special.


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Post by eddie on Thu May 23, 2019 10:59 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Jules wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:my opinion is, and always has been, why do you need mods on a forum that has less than a dozen regulars. it's bound to be inconsistent.

Every site owner has their own way of doing things. Laughing
It's clearly a matter of personal preference that the owner likes having several mods - as simple as that.

No, the number of regulars here is nearer 2 dozen. Which is adequate.
I regard myself as a regular tho I sometimes go for days or even weeks without posting.

No forum is perfect, they all have flaws but this one ticks enough boxes for me to like it.
I must have missed all those extras. the point it still valid. One person could apply a single unified approach on sites like this and still not have enough work to do. Mostly mods are handed power to make them feel special.


Ah, you may be right....in which case, you must be super-duper-special because you made yourself the only mod on your forum.

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