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Post by phildidge on Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:35 pm

A growing number of 'one-man' Sharia councils are leading to discrimination against women, an Islamic scholar has warned.

An independent review into Sharia councils raised the issue of discrimination last year as Islamic law grants men the right to divorce by simply declaring their marriage is over - whereas a woman must gain a scholar's permission to divorce her husband.

Khola Hasan, scholar at east London's Islamic Sharia Council, told The Times that there are 'good Sharia councils' but some 'could do a lot better'.

She said: 'I have heard stories of women made to go back to abusive husbands. These complaints mainly relate to one-man [operations].

'It may be an imam of a mosque or a madrassa teacher who considers himself to be of a scholarly disposition who announces to the local community, "I am a Sharia scholar and if you have problems, come to me." '


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6846677/One-man-Sharia-law-councils-discriminatory-women-Islamic-scholar-warns.html


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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:29 pm

A statement of what Basil Fawlty would describe as "...the bleedin' obvious."

Sharia Law has absolutely no place in this country's legal system - criminal or civil.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:40 pm

I thought that in order for Sharia to be used in any UK case, all parties involved must agree to it beforehand -- is that not true?

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:56 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:I thought that in order for Sharia to be used in any UK case, all parties involved must agree to it beforehand -- is that not true?

In theory, perhaps....

In practice, however, the "agreement" of the woman is not, in the case of the presiding Sharia "adjudicator", regarded as being equal to the agreement of the man.

For some obscure reason (social cohesion springs immediately to mind) the UK authorities appear eager to comply........
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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:18 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:I thought that in order for Sharia to be used in any UK case, all parties involved must agree to it beforehand -- is that not true?

In theory, perhaps....

In practice, however, the "agreement" of the woman is not, in the case of the presiding Sharia "adjudicator", regarded as being equal  to the agreement of the man.

For some obscure reason (social cohesion springs immediately to mind) the UK authorities appear eager to comply........

In other words, the woman has to be brave enough to say, "take your Sharia and shove it."

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:26 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Fred Moletrousers wrote:

In theory, perhaps....

In practice, however, the "agreement" of the woman is not, in the case of the presiding Sharia "adjudicator", regarded as being equal  to the agreement of the man.

For some obscure reason (social cohesion springs immediately to mind) the UK authorities appear eager to comply........

In other words, the woman has to be brave enough to say, "take your Sharia and shove it."

Exactly.............
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Post by phildidge on Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:27 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Fred Moletrousers wrote:

In theory, perhaps....

In practice, however, the "agreement" of the woman is not, in the case of the presiding Sharia "adjudicator", regarded as being equal  to the agreement of the man.

For some obscure reason (social cohesion springs immediately to mind) the UK authorities appear eager to comply........

In other words, the woman has to be brave enough to say, "take your Sharia and shove it."


And how does a Muslims women bought up within a said culture come to such an understanding?

Why is it that in reality , many take the rulings of such imans?

It would certainly take immense bravery, to run foul of the entire community, that a Muslim woman lives within.

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:26 am

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Fred Moletrousers wrote:
>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:I thought that in order for Sharia to be used in any UK case, all parties involved must agree to it beforehand -- is that not true?

In theory, perhaps....

In practice, however, the "agreement" of the woman is not, in the case of the presiding Sharia "adjudicator", regarded as being equal  to the agreement of the man.

For some obscure reason (social cohesion springs immediately to mind) the UK authorities appear eager to comply........

In other words, the woman has to be brave enough to say, "take your Sharia and shove it."

There is no legal basis for sharia law it is just the community that will 'exile' them, no different then 'excommunication' that Catholics used to do.
any other punishment is a real crime dealt with by real police.

the UK do seem to making a major mistake in allowing it to be as open as they do, here there seems to be much more support for women getting out of abusive relationships regardless of religion.

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Post by nicko on Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:50 am

Our Government are "pussies" when dealing with Muslims, they get away with Murder, literally !
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Post by veya_victaous on Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:04 am

nicko wrote:Our Government are "pussies"  when dealing with Muslims,   they get away with Murder, literally !

Finally you see my point
it is not a LW issue it is British(Europe) issue

neither Australia, NZ or Canada have as much of a problem and we all are just as LW as the UK.

It seems ridiculous that these Sharia councils are not 'systematically dismantled'. It has happened here in the past when any decide they can commit a crime in the name of religious judgement. there has to be adherence to secular laws, being an Imam does not give you exemption.

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