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Post by HoratioTarr on Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:22 pm

Anti-Brexit protesters have travelled from all over the country to London for the 'Put it to the People March' as the online petition urging the government to cancel Brexit passed four and a half million signatures.

Opponents of Britain's departure from the European Union began gathering in Hyde Park from 12pm before converging on Westminster and organisers claim a million people turned up to voice their concerns over the decision to leave the EU.

If true, today's demonstration would be the biggest since 2003 when an estimated one million people protested against the Iraq War in the streets of London.

Speakers set to address a rally outside Parliament include Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, London Mayor Sadiq Khan and opposition Labour deputy leader Tom Watson.

Other speakers will include former Conservative cabinet minister Justine Greening and ex-attorney general Dominic Grieve, former Tory turned independent MP Anna Soubry, Lib Dem deputy leader Jo Swinson, Green Party MP Caroline Lucas and SNP Westminster leader Ian Blackford.

Organisers claimed that one million protesters came to the protest, after previously saying they were confident that the size of the crowd would exceed a similar rally held in October, where 700,000 people turned up.

The Metropolitan Police refused to comment on the size of the march.

Addressing the crowd in Parliament Square, Labour's deputy leader Tom Watson said: 'We are one million strong.'

He said he was there on behalf of his 10-year-old daughter.

'She has told me to thank you for campaigning for her future,' he said.

Mr Watson said the Prime Minister's deal 'pleases no-one'.

'If you voted remain it's a rubbish deal, if you voted leave it's a lousy deal. There are no winners, only losers,' he said.

He added: 'Brexit is stuck in the parliamentary pipeworks and it's not going to find a way out.'

Addressing his comments to Theresa May, he said: 'I can only vote for a deal if you let the people vote on it too.

'Prime Minister, you've lost control of this process, you're plunging the country into chaos, let the people take control.'



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6842103/Tens-thousands-streets-London-demand-Peoples-Vote.html
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Post by HoratioTarr on Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:23 pm

They're all banging on about this petition...but a petition isn't a vote.
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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:38 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:They're all banging on about this petition...but a petition isn't a vote.

Isn't that about 25 per cent of the original "people's vote" (er, the Referendum) to quit the EU?
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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:38 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:They're all banging on about this petition...but a petition isn't a vote.


some dude on twitter was showing that there were sign ups from outside the uk on the petition

also you could make various email addresses

julia hartley brewer made a fake account and signed it in the name of Remoaner McMoanface just for lols and she voted for brexit,,,,,it means nothing

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Post by Vintage on Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:36 pm

Let's just get the E.E.C. back. Referendums should have happened in every country in the EU when political changes/ever closer union was put forward and no continuing vote until the 'right' answer is achieved. What is the purpose of ever closer union? If its peace and prosperity wasn't that already happening, doesn't the EU reckon so, nothing to do with NATO or people managing to see past the old reasons for going to war.

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Post by Eilzel on Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:59 am

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HoratioTarr wrote:They're all banging on about this petition...but a petition isn't a vote.


some dude on twitter was showing that there were sign ups from outside the uk on the petition

also you could make various email addresses

julia hartley brewer made a fake account and signed it in the name of Remoaner McMoanface just for lols and she voted for brexit,,,,,it means nothing

I signed the position, it probably showed that from outside the UK too. There are millions of expats, so not surprising if some signed it Wink

Also, it is near 5 million now, and this is just active online Remainers who are aware. It may not be comparable to a vote, but surely significant enough to take notice. Polls put Remain ahead by a fair margin too.

And the biggest public demonstration/March since Iraq.

And what all us are really asking for now is a final say on if and how we leave.

No Deal
May's Deal
Remain.

Since the original vote did NOT specify leaving everything OR remaining in the free trade area - lie to yourself if you will, but many Brexiteers repeatedly stated we could remain in the Single Market.

With the options on the table, letting the people have a final say is the most sensible option. No one could dispute the outcome.



But all this is escaping the FACT now, that Leavers are SCARED because they KNOW they'd lose another vote.

And May's Deal will become reality Rolling Eyes

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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:24 am

Also, reports show that there was nowhere near 1 million on that march.  More like 120,000.  

We were told, breathlessly, that the initial count showed more than a million people were marching. The biggest protest march in UK history!

But, well, it wouldn’t be the first time such figures have been inflated. Let’s not forget the second Brexit referendum march in October 2018, which organisers claimed had more than 700,000 marchers, when the Greater London Authority put the number at a far more realistic 250,000.

Sophisticated analysis by the website countingcrowds.co.uk, using images of October’s march, suggested the true number was closer to 82,000. Should the same apply to yesterday’s rally, there might have been as few as 120,000 on the streets.

What I will concede, however, is that – for a political protest – the People’s Vote was by far one of the politest events I’ve ever been to.

For every rude poster – shouting ‘Brexs**t’, for instance – there were placards that merely fawned over the EU. Even when the crowds chanted ‘b******* to Brexit’ there was no snarl.

They could have been ordering the gnocchi in Carluccio’s.

If I were more of a conspiracy theorist, I might be inclined to suggest the march was designed to promote London’s most elite retail establishments.

It was a veritable tour of the best in bespoke men’s tailoring, cigar finery and the most expensive shaving sets I’ve ever seen.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6843347/CHARLOTTE-GILL-attends-Peoples-Vote-march-EU-sual-suspects-armed-Waitrose-picnics.html
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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:34 am

Here's a twitter link of someone posting fake drone photos of that march.   Thank God that fake news these days is mostly rumbled.  

https://twitter.com/bob_london/status/1109457052768878592

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Post by Eilzel on Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:40 am

HoratioTarr wrote:And that march?   Nothing spontaneous about it.

Who ever said it was spontaneous?

And fgs, why is, that for all people go on about free speech, the very idea of protesting in the streets is so endlessly attacked by many more conservative folks. Let people vent - lord knows they've been fucked over badly enough as it is by the idiotic nonsense that is Brexit.


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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:59 am



This means nothing!!!


The referendum result was LEAVE THE EU!!!


17.4 MILLION PEOPLE!!!


And two thirds of MPs constituencies also voted to leave!!!


Time to get on with it!!!



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Post by Eilzel on Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:24 pm

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This means nothing!!!


The referendum result was LEAVE THE EU!!!


17.4 MILLION PEOPLE!!!


And two thirds of MPs constituencies also voted to leave!!!


Time to get on with it!!!



Waffle...


Yawn...!!!

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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:39 pm

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HoratioTarr wrote:And that march?   Nothing spontaneous about it.

Who ever said it was spontaneous?

And fgs, why is, that for all people go on about free speech, the very idea of protesting in the streets is so endlessly attacked by many more conservative folks. Let people vent - lord knows they've been fucked over badly enough as it is by the idiotic nonsense that is Brexit.


It's been said in various places on social media...posted along with the lies about numbers attending. Nobody is denying anyone free speech. But spouting lies isn't really on, is it? Does help the cause any.

We've all been fucked over. Nobody has been fucked over more than those who voted to leave.
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Post by Eilzel on Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:46 pm

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HoratioTarr wrote:And that march?   Nothing spontaneous about it.

Who ever said it was spontaneous?

And fgs, why is, that for all people go on about free speech, the very idea of protesting in the streets is so endlessly attacked by many more conservative folks. Let people vent - lord knows they've been fucked over badly enough as it is by the idiotic nonsense that is Brexit.


It's been said in various places on social media...posted along with the lies about numbers attending.    Nobody is denying anyone free speech.  But spouting lies isn't really on, is it?   Does help the cause any.  

We've all been fucked over.   Nobody has been fucked over more than those who voted to leave.

How do you figure that? We are going to leave, how is that being fucked over???

On the other hand, what of the MANY lies told by the leave campaign? If anyone was fucked over it was remainers who are forced to accept Brexit when it was on RW media lie.

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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:13 pm

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It's been said in various places on social media...posted along with the lies about numbers attending.    Nobody is denying anyone free speech.  But spouting lies isn't really on, is it?   Does help the cause any.  

We've all been fucked over.   Nobody has been fucked over more than those who voted to leave.

How do you figure that? We are going to leave, how is that being fucked over???

On the other hand, what of the MANY lies told by the leave campaign? If anyone was fucked over it was remainers who are forced to accept Brexit when it was on RW media lie.

Do I really have to spell it out? The remainers are so busy moaning and feeling sorry for themselves, that they can't see that leavers have equally been fucked over. We all have. Our politicians are a bunch of self serving charlatans. In all my years, I've never known a bunch on both sides, so feckless and selfish.
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A little 'One million' march to STOP Brexit: Organisers of People's Vote protest in London claim biggest turnout since Iraq march in 2003 - as petition to cancel withdrawal hits 4.5 million 4233679493 to our darling Phil who has his greasy spotty little nose firmly pressed against the glass of the Newsfix window.
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Post by Eilzel on Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:23 pm

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HoratioTarr wrote:

It's been said in various places on social media...posted along with the lies about numbers attending.    Nobody is denying anyone free speech.  But spouting lies isn't really on, is it?   Does help the cause any.  

We've all been fucked over.   Nobody has been fucked over more than those who voted to leave.

How do you figure that? We are going to leave, how is that being fucked over???

On the other hand, what of the MANY lies told by the leave campaign? If anyone was fucked over it was remainers who are forced to accept Brexit when it was on RW media lie.

Do I really have to spell it out?   The remainers are so busy moaning and feeling sorry for themselves, that they can't see that leavers have equally been fucked over.  We all have.  Our politicians are a bunch of self serving charlatans.   In all my years, I've never known a bunch on both sides, so feckless and selfish.

I must be blind, cause I'm not seeing it. We are, barring a massive turnabout, leaving the EU within two months.

The fucks the Remainers.
It's giving Leavers what they voted for.

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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:26 pm

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Do I really have to spell it out?   The remainers are so busy moaning and feeling sorry for themselves, that they can't see that leavers have equally been fucked over.  We all have.  Our politicians are a bunch of self serving charlatans.   In all my years, I've never known a bunch on both sides, so feckless and selfish.

I must be blind, cause I'm not seeing it. We are, barring a massive turnabout, leaving the EU within two months.

The fucks the Remainers.
It's giving Leavers what they voted for.

It's not just about leaving though, is it? It's about the conditions attached to that. Which is why the politicians are all up in arms. The deals are being negotiated by someone who doesn't want to leave the EU. We've had no one at the helm who's heart has been in it. It's a shambles all round, leaving absolutely no confidence that whatever deal is done will be the right one for the country. I've always felt strongly that Britain has been in a stranglehold within the EU, and that in time, it would only get worse.
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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:16 pm



"...Already, an impressive list of characters has signed the petition. Jacob Rees-Mogg has given it his seal of approval over 8,000 times. Idi Amin, of all people, has signed it over 700 times. Journalist Julia Hartley-brewer registered herself under the name 'Remoaner McRemoanface'..."


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Post by phildidge on Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:26 pm

To be fair Tommy has a point. People can continually sign this using multiple email accounts and why its a sham.

If there was 18 million individual people that have signed this. Then that would be more votes than the referendum. So 4 million is nothing when you think about it.

If people wanted to stay in the EU, then there would be 20 million people that would have signed

The fact its only 4 million is actually really poor when you think about it

Only 4 million really want to stay in the EU, the rest could not give a fuck either way or want out.

I have to say though, this has to go down as one of the most sickest things the remainers have done. Me being a remainer and yet stand by democracy. Am appalled at this.



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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:42 pm




Also... only British nationals were allowed to vote in the referendum... while anyone from anywhere in the world can sign this bullshit petition and as many times as they like...!


It is just more spurious remoaner waffle!


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Post by Eilzel on Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:23 am

HoratioTarr wrote:
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Do I really have to spell it out?   The remainers are so busy moaning and feeling sorry for themselves, that they can't see that leavers have equally been fucked over.  We all have.  Our politicians are a bunch of self serving charlatans.   In all my years, I've never known a bunch on both sides, so feckless and selfish.

I must be blind, cause I'm not seeing it. We are, barring a massive turnabout, leaving the EU within two months.

The fucks the Remainers.
It's giving Leavers what they voted for.

It's not just about leaving though, is it?   It's about the conditions attached to that.   Which is why the politicians are all up in arms.   The deals are being negotiated by someone who doesn't want to leave the EU.   We've had no one at the helm who's heart has been in it.   It's a shambles all round, leaving absolutely no confidence that whatever deal is done will be the right one for the country.    I've always felt strongly that Britain has been in a stranglehold within the EU, and that in time, it would only get worse.  

Considering:

1. The result of the referendum was 52/48.
2. There WERE assurances by many lead Brexiteers of remaining in the Single Market.
3. And polls today put Remain largely ahead.

I'd say that, although it is an uncomfortable compromise, May's Deal is kind of trying to do the best for all. Because:

1. We still leave the EU.
2. We retain access to the Single Market.
3. We do so while protecting EU citizens in the UK, UK citizens in the EU and visa free travel.

It does the best by all parties.

It is only hard Brexiteer arrogance that presumes ALL Leave voters wanted a full break. Of 17 million voters, it would be stupendously arrogant to think ALL wanted out of the Single Market too.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:27 am

It was made crystal clear that leave meant leaving the single market, the customs union, the CAP, the CFP, and taking back control of our laws, rules, borders and money!


And 17.4 million people voted to leave!!!


We all knew what we were voting for!!!


Time to get on with it!!!



Maybe you can remind us what the law is, about us leaving under article 50...!?


Two years of talks to try to reach an amicable trade settlement... or we leave under WTO trade terms...!


So... it couldn't be clearer that we should now leave on 29th March under WTO terms!!!


The British people voted to leave... and to be honest... didn't even want the 2 years of bullshit wrangling up until this point...!!!


We just want to leave!!!


WTO terms is fine by leave voters... and we could have had this all sorted 2 years ago!!!




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Post by Eilzel on Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:30 am

Tommy Monk wrote:It was made crystal clear that leave meant leaving the single market, the customs union, the cap, the cap, and taking back control of our laws, rules, borders and money!


And 17.4 million people voted to leave!!!


We all knew what we were voting for!!!


Time to get on with it!!!



Waffle...



Yawn...!!!

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:37 am



It is the remoaners who are full of waffle...



And everyone else is extremely tired of their treachery... and their continued childish antics...!



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Post by Eilzel on Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:43 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

It is the remoaners who are full of waffle...



And everyone else is extremely tired of their treachery... and their continued childish antics...!



Apparently not the plus half the country who now want to remain Wink

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:50 am




Bullshit polls don't mean anything!


The decision has already been made!!!


Time to get on with honouring the result of the biggest democratic vote in our country's history!!!


LEAVE MEANS LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!



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Post by Eilzel on Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:57 am

Tommy Monk wrote:


Bullshit polls don't mean anything!


The decision has already been made!!!


Time to get on with honouring the result of the biggest democratic vote in our country's history!!!


LEAVE MEANS LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!



That's what we're doing.

Leaving.

With a deal Wink

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Post by phildidge on Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:48 am

Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:

It is the remoaners who are full of waffle...



And everyone else is extremely tired of their treachery... and their continued childish antics...!



Apparently not the plus half the country who now want to remain  Wink

Is that why the petition has only 5 million that have signed? That is not even a sixth of the number of people who voted in the referendum


Sorry, let me rephrase that

1 million that have signed, with the rest being the same people signing multiple times, but lets look at the person that created this petition shall we?

Remainers and Leavers alike have been getting a little too excited about the Revoke Article 50 Petition. Yes, you can sign it as many times as you like with made up email addresses and whatever name and country you care to put in. Yes, there are videos online explaining in detail how to use bots to hijack Parliamentary petitions – exactly what happened with the second referendum petition immediately after the referendum. Is it actually going to stop Brexit? No, that will be MPs…
The creator of the petition is a certain Margaret Anne Georgiadou, who went on LBCto discuss the petition this afternoon. Now Guido can reveal a series of shocking posts from her on Facebook where she makes repeated death threats against Theresa May. She even discusses in detail with fellow Remainers how to purchase “legal” guns and go to the House of Commons.
In January, Georgiadou wrote about how she hoped that May would kill herself. In two further comments that now appear to have been deleted, she described May (or possibly Andrea Leadsom) as a “creature” that “needs putting down” and threatened to shoot May “point blank”.
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In another deeply disturbing thread, Georgiadou and two other Remainers discuss at great lengths how to purchase “completely legal” paintball guns and them load them with “solid ‘training balls'” that will cause “extreme pain”. Georgiadou asks if people “need a licence” to own one and “where can you buy?” She then jokes about shooting Brexiteers “with impunity”…
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Georgiadou’s friend ‘Dino Bragoli’ shares multiple more links to websites where these guns can be purchased, before instructing her to “never shoot them in the back, always shoot them in the face or better still, the groin at close range” and what to say to avoid being prosecuted. Georgiadou responds “where to buy, and how much?”
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Georgiadou and the others then discuss how to make the weapons even more painful by modifying them to contain pepper spray, before ‘Chris Hunsicker’ comes up with the suggestion of bursting balloons filled with chili powder at the House of Commons. Georgiadou responds that his suggestion is “very constructive if you ask me”, then Bragoli shares a picture of his own pistol complete with ammunition, a rifled barrel and an extra modifications:
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This is not just idle threats of violence against politicians, Georgiadou and her associates were engaged in detailed discussions of how to purchase weapons within the bounds of the law and modify them to cause maximum pain, then talking about going to Parliament. Deeply concerning….





https://order-order.com/2019/03/22/revoke-article-50-petition-creator-threatened-may-discussed-buy-legal-guns-take-commons/

I would say that this person clearly does not believe in democracy and is instead looking to murder a Governement official, all because they did not get their way in a referendum

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Post by eddie on Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:42 am

Probably wouldn’t have heard about it if it was people marching for the opppsite, or if we did, the numbers would’ve been far less.
We had Black Taxi marches against Uber with the same numbers. Guess what? Never even made the news.

Wonder why.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:03 pm




There was a brexit March...


https://m.dw.com/en/nigel-farage-leads-pro-brexit-march-to-london/a-47946402


But hardly got any mention in the media...



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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:25 pm




not overly reliable, this petition, so it seems


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2hhCPOWoAA073i.png

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:47 pm

There was tons of coverage last week when lorry drivers protested in favor of Brexit.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:38 pm

Leave means leave!!!


Not 'half in half out'... and certainly doesn't mean still being in 3 years after the vote to leave, and with remoaners still regurgitating the same old arguments about why they think we should remain in the EU, and with any of it being given any credibility...!


The decision has been made!!!


We decided to leave!!!


And we all knew full well that if a decent deal could not be agreed in two years after the declaration to leave under article 50 of the law that we are enshrined to... then this very same law is clear in its instructions that we would then leave the EU under WTO rules!!!


Time to get on with abiding by the referendum result, and abiding by the EU law that the remainers are so in favour of upholding...!!!


Leave means leave!!!


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Post by Guest on Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:40 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Leave means leave!!!


Not 'half in half out'... and certainly doesn't mean still being in 3 years after the vote to leave, and with remoaners still regurgitating the same old arguments about why they think we should remain in the EU, and with any of it being given any credibility...!


The decision has been made!!!


We decided to leave!!!


And we all knew full well that if a decent deal could not be agreed in two years after the declaration to leave under article 50 of the law that we are enshrined to... then this very same law is clear in its instructions that we would then leave the EU under WTO rules!!!


Time to get on with abiding by the referendum result, and abiding by the EU law that the remainers are so in favour of upholding...!!!


Leave means leave!!!




there's supposedly some brexit march going on this friday i think

you going?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:58 pm



I'll be at work this Friday...



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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:59 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Leave means leave!!!


Not 'half in half out'... and certainly doesn't mean still being in 3 years after the vote to leave, and with remoaners still regurgitating the same old arguments about why they think we should remain in the EU, and with any of it being given any credibility...!


The decision has been made!!!


We decided to leave!!!


And we all knew full well that if a decent deal could not be agreed in two years after the declaration to leave under article 50 of the law that we are enshrined to... then this very same law is clear in its instructions that we would then leave the EU under WTO rules!!!


Time to get on with abiding by the referendum result, and abiding by the EU law that the remainers are so in favour of upholding...!!!


Leave means leave!!!



Leave does indeed mean leave, but everyone -- even those you disagree with -- is entitled to freedom of expression.

If they think that Brexit is a bad idea, they have the same right to say that as you have to say you think it's a good idea.

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Post by nicko on Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:28 pm

They don't have the right to spread lies as they have done, and the "Million March" was a load of bollocks. The Police reckoned there was 250,000 to 300,000 !
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Post by Ben Reilly on Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:59 pm

nicko wrote:They don't have the right to spread lies as they have done,  and the "Million March"  was a load of bollocks.  The Police reckoned there was 250,000 to 300,000 !

How much money is going into the NHS as a result of Brexit?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:17 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Leave means leave!!!


Not 'half in half out'... and certainly doesn't mean still being in 3 years after the vote to leave, and with remoaners still regurgitating the same old arguments about why they think we should remain in the EU, and with any of it being given any credibility...!


The decision has been made!!!


We decided to leave!!!


And we all knew full well that if a decent deal could not be agreed in two years after the declaration to leave under article 50 of the law that we are enshrined to... then this very same law is clear in its instructions that we would then leave the EU under WTO rules!!!


Time to get on with abiding by the referendum result, and abiding by the EU law that the remainers are so in favour of upholding...!!!


Leave means leave!!!



Leave does indeed mean leave, but everyone -- even those you disagree with -- is entitled to freedom of expression.

If they think that Brexit is a bad idea, they have the same right to say that as you have to say you think it's a good idea.


But they don't have the right to try to stop us leaving the EU... as the democratic decision to leave has already been made!



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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:20 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
nicko wrote:They don't have the right to spread lies as they have done,  and the "Million March"  was a load of bollocks.  The Police reckoned there was 250,000 to 300,000 !

How much money is going into the NHS as a result of Brexit?

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It was a suggestion, not a commitment. I don't know why people always seem to think that was a promise. It wasn't even the Government who said it.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:47 pm



And we can't give any of it to the NHS yet because we are still in the EU, and still giving it all to them!!!


We need to leave now, and WTO terms is the best option we have!!!


Time to get on with it!!!



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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:05 pm

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How much money is going into the NHS as a result of Brexit?

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It was a suggestion, not a commitment. I don't know why people always seem to think that was a promise. It wasn't even the Government who said it.


Quite right!



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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:30 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:


Bullshit polls don't mean anything!


The decision has already been made!!!


Time to get on with honouring the result of the biggest democratic vote in our country's history!!!


LEAVE MEANS LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!



That's what we're doing.

Leaving.

With a deal Wink


No... what is happening is that remoaner mps are trying to stop us leaving...!


We don't leave the EU by staying in it!


And we don't leave the EU by being forced into a deal that effectively means that we stay in the EU either!


It is crystal clear that the vote to leave the EU meant leaving the EU in its entirety and leaving the single market, the customs union, the CAP, the CFP, and ending free movement, and being outside of the jurisdiction of the ECJ... and taking back full control over our laws, rules, borders and money, and restoring our democracy!!!


LEAVE MEANS LEAVE!!!


TIME TO GET ON WITH IT!!!



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Post by Eilzel on Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:45 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
nicko wrote:They don't have the right to spread lies as they have done,  and the "Million March"  was a load of bollocks.  The Police reckoned there was 250,000 to 300,000 !

How much money is going into the NHS as a result of Brexit?

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It was a suggestion, not a commitment. I don't know why people always seem to think that was a promise. It wasn't even the Government who said it.

The Referendum was advisory, not legally binding. I don't know why Leave voters always think that was a promise.

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Post by Eilzel on Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:46 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:


Bullshit polls don't mean anything!


The decision has already been made!!!


Time to get on with honouring the result of the biggest democratic vote in our country's history!!!


LEAVE MEANS LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!



That's what we're doing.

Leaving.

With a deal Wink


No... what is happening is that remoaner mps are trying to stop us leaving...!


We don't leave the EU by staying in it!


And we don't leave the EU by being forced into a deal that effectively means that we stay in the EU either!


It is crystal clear that the vote to leave the EU meant leaving the EU in its entirety and leaving the single market, the customs union, the CAP, the CFP, and ending free movement, and being outside of the jurisdiction of the ECJ... and taking back full control over our laws, rules, borders and money, and restoring our democracy!!!


LEAVE MEANS LEAVE!!!


TIME TO GET ON WITH IT!!!



Waffle...


Yawn...!!!

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:32 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:

How much money is going into the NHS as a result of Brexit?

'One million' march to STOP Brexit: Organisers of People's Vote protest in London claim biggest turnout since Iraq march in 2003 - as petition to cancel withdrawal hits 4.5 million _99609613_8e5e3cfe-4bfe-407a-85d8-4f9526cb0670

It was a suggestion, not a commitment. I don't know why people always seem to think that was a promise. It wasn't even the Government who said it.


Quite right!



"Vote Leave. Let's fund our NHS."

Can't be more clear-cut than that.

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