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Post by HoratioTarr on Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:21 pm

Speaker John Bercow pointedly praised MPs for their hard work and dedication today, saying 'none of you is a traitor' as Theresa May's faced a furious backlash over a Brexit TV address.

The Prime Minister sparked cross-party fury after she used a live broadcast to lay blame for any delay to the UK quitting the EU at the door of Parliament for not backing her deal and accusing her critics of playing 'political games'.

It prompted a torrent of anger from raging MPs who branded her a 'f***ing disgrace', with Tory MP Nigel Evans warning that a third vote next week may now go 'worse than last time', when she was defeated by 149 votes.

Mr Bercow intervened after Hull MP Diana Johnson called for a debate on patriotism, revealing she had received death threats before last night's speech and suggesting Mrs May had 'pitched Members of Parliament against the general public'.

Ms Johnson said: 'In recent weeks, like many in this House I have been accused of being a traitor and I have also had Facebook posts saying that, along with the two other MPs in Hull that we should be shot and hanged.'

After Commons' Leader Andrea Leadsom called for MPs to be 'treated with respect', Mr Bercow said: 'None of you is a traitor.

'All of you are doing your best - this should not be, and I'm sure will not prove to be, a matter of any controversy whatsoever.

'From the chair let me say I believe passionately in the institution of Parliament, in the rights of members of this House and their commitment to their duty.

'And I use the word duty in the singular advisedly - the sole duty of every Member of Parliament is to do what he or she thinks is right.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6834675/John-Bercow-praises-MPs-hours-Theresa-lays-blame-Brexit-delay-door.html
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Post by Victorismyhero on Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:33 pm

"hang the lot of em and let god sort em out"

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Post by Tommy Monk on Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:44 pm




Two thirds of MPs are sitting in leave voting constituencies... and 86% of MPs were elected in 2017 under the manifesto promise of honouring the result of the EU referendum, and to deliver on the UK leaving the EU, either with a deal or WTO deal...!



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Post by eddie on Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:37 pm

What a bunch of scaredy cats. Why is everyone so bloody scared of change?
That’s always been my biggest question of the entire human race?

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Post by Eilzel on Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:38 pm

"Take power from Eurocrats!"
"Restore British Democracy."

*Bercow demonstrates British Democracy*

"Traitors! Fuck British Democracy!"
"The Queen should dissolve parliament."

So what you really want is an autocracy so long as the Dictator is very British Laughing

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Post by Tommy Monk on Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:02 am

No... we want what we voted for... to leave the EU...!!!



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Post by Eilzel on Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:11 am

Tommy Monk wrote:No... we want what we voted for... to leave the EU...!!!



Calm down, dear.

In case you haven't been watching, we certainly are leaving the EU in the next week or few months, possibly even with your precious No Deal.

But don't pretend you lot want democracy. You want a people's dictatorship. You loathe British Democracy.

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Post by veya_victaous on Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:09 am

Eilzel wrote:"Take power from Eurocrats!"
"Restore British Democracy."

*Bercow demonstrates British Democracy*

"Traitors! Fuck British Democracy!"
"The Queen should dissolve parliament."

So what you really want is an autocracy so long as the Dictator is very British Laughing

I actually think this is the root of the problem.
many, particularly older brits, can't accept not being top dog in the pack.


I would still like to WTO rules mean?
were part of the WTO but we cant trade openly with EU nations. they don't agree to because of their membership in the EU Suspect 
I don't get how they think it works? confused

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:27 am

Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:No... we want what we voted for... to leave the EU...!!!



Calm down, dear.

In case you haven't been watching, we certainly are leaving the EU in the next week or few months, possibly even with your precious No Deal.

But don't pretend you lot want democracy. You want a people's dictatorship. You loathe British Democracy.


The democratic vote was had... the result was to leave the EU...


And... democracy IS the dictatorship of the people, you idiot!!!


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Post by Eilzel on Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:32 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:No... we want what we voted for... to leave the EU...!!!



Calm down, dear.

In case you haven't been watching, we certainly are leaving the EU in the next week or few months, possibly even with your precious No Deal.

But don't pretend you lot want democracy. You want a people's dictatorship. You loathe British Democracy.


The democratic vote was had... the result was to leave the EU...


And... democracy IS the dictatorship of the people, you idiot!!!


lol!



One interpretation only. What YOU really want is mob rule.

British Democracy isn't, nor has it ever been, mob rule.
Nor is American Democracy.
Nor is Australian.

Nor is almost any democracy is the world.

We elect people to do a job that we believe (theoretically) will best serve our best interests.

In this case we have a parliamentary system that has lasted centuries, and for good reason - it usually works out, more or less.

That system does not necessitate holding opportunistic referendums as a way of snatching a few votes. And even if it was, it was advisory.

But again, we will leave. But carry on posting and showing you have only the most simplistic understanding of the word democracy.

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Post by veya_victaous on Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:43 am

it shows how little Tommy understands About the British Westminster system that has not only served the UK but its former colonies well so far.

it it not a dictatorship of the people at all
it is representative democracy

you have the democratic right to choose a representative, not define policy
that right is reserved for your betters, in true blue blooded British tradition  snob

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veya_victaous wrote:it shows how little Tommy understands About the British Westminster system that has not only served the UK but its former colonies well so far.

it it not a dictatorship of the people at all
it is representative democracy

you have the democratic right to choose a representative, not define policy
that right is reserved for your betters, in true blue blooded British tradition  snob

And as June 2016 showed us, it's probably better it be kept that way Laughing Twisted Evil

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Post by Victorismyhero on Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:00 am

You dont  actually choose a representative, since the elected MP doesnt  have to "represent" the constituents at all. Rather than being a representative, i.e delegate, they are allowed to vote in parliamentary matters "according to their conscience"  i.e own personal best interest.
So YES those who voted against the wishes of their constituency members, as expressesd in the referendum ARE in many ways  traitors. Self serving and corrupt. 

Bring back Oliver Cromwell Razz

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Post by Eilzel on Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:11 am

Victorismyhero wrote:You dont  actually choose a representative, since the elected MP doesnt  have to "represent" the constituents at all. Rather than being a representative, i.e delegate, they are allowed to vote in parliamentary matters "according to their conscience"  i.e own personal best interest.
So YES those who voted against the wishes of their constituency members, as expressesd in the referendum ARE in many ways  traitors. Self serving and corrupt. 

Bring back Oliver Cromwell Razz

A very English dictator (and known grump, what with banning Christmas and theatre etc..) would be right up your street Vic Twisted Evil Laughing

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:40 am



We vote for politicians based on what they promise to do in their manifestos...


Those who are elected are the ones who say they will do what the people want... and the politicians spend plenty of time finding out what people want... so they are being dictated to by the people, hence why democracy is a dictatorship by the people...


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Post by veya_victaous on Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:33 pm

LOL Tommy that is not and has NEVER been the British system

You elect representatives that do not have to listen to you, you vote for them based on trusting them to make  decisions.
the British System rightful Acknowledges that as an ignorant Pleb You do not have the minimum Knowledge or understanding to make them
You also have proven this with your posts ....  what's WTO rules ? what does that mean? you say it a lot but clearly have no clue what it is

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:55 am




We vote for those who say they will do what we want... and never vote for them again if they don't do what we want...


Demos kratos!


And yes, of course I know what the WTO is...!



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