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“As students we don’t have the vote, and it is really unfair because this is going to impact on us the most. It is our future,”
Evie Baldwin, 15, from north London

Thousands of young people take time out of school to join protests across the country

Some wore school uniform, with ties askew in St Trinian’s fashion, others donned face paint, sparkly jackets and DM boots. The youngest clutched a parent’s hand as people gathered in the sunshine in Parliament Square in London, a few metres from the politicians they say are letting down a generation.

They carried homemade placards, with slogans full of humour, passion and hope that the voices of thousands of children and young people would be heard.

“March now – or swim later”, “I’ve seen smarter cabinets in Ikea” and “denial is not a policy” read the banners, as chants for action on climate change grew and strengthened with the passing hours into a deafening roar. “What do we want? Climate action! When do we want it? Now!”

Across the UK it was a day for thousands who are not normally heard, as children took time out of their lessons to attend the strike.

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Much more on link: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/15/children-climate-inaction-protests-uk


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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:45 pm

man made climate change is a scam to fill government coffers and make idiots feel good about doing. If it was serious every penny raised would have gone to green tech research and we would all have pocket reactors who's only byproduct was gold bars. the fact that only a fraction goes on green tech and research blows the lie out of the water.

By the way climate change has been going on since the first day the earth got an atmosphere and few would deny that, it is the man made part that is far from proven. Although I do understand that many scientists funding relies on it.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:46 pm

Thor wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:This is like what the Hitler youth did.

They brainwashed their into believing something that wasn't true

The Hitler youth were brainwashed with racial hatred and racial superiority.
So much so, many willingly gave their lives like Jihadists do today.

What hatred is being taught here with climate change?

Yet again a dumbfuckwitted false equivalency by you

Not only that, you think teaching science, is brainwashing?

Science looks skeptically at its own methods and theories. In fact it constantly does this

Why is it you cannot even look skeptically at your own beliefs?
well hatred of tories and a cult like devotion to comrade cob, I can see the parallels

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:47 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:I do love the fact that so many of the placards they were waving had socialist workers party at the top.
One leftist on twitter claimed that was because they are so often left around.
these kids were encouraged to truant by left wing teachers, I wonder how they would have reacted if they had wanted to go on a pro brexit march.

But it will be great to see these kids abandoning their parents chelsea tractors for getting to school and ditching their iphones built with slave labour in china, ditching the half term hols flying to switzerland for a spot of skiing. Or doesn't their activism stretch that far?

I think the division is more likely the fact that the opposition to the climate issue is big business and the RW oil industry. Socialism is a non sequitur.

But hats off to the teachers, who after all are teaching kids real science.

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Lord Foul wrote:Well, with my woodland I'll bet I'm carbon neutral.......and probably gaining someone else's carbon credits too. (Be nice if I could cash em in)
how do you cut up and dispose of your excess wood?

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:50 pm

deano wrote:By the way climate change has been going on since the first day the earth got an atmosphere and few would deny that, it is the man made part that is far from proven.

I think by all standards it has been proven.

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The Devil, You Know wrote:I do love the fact that so many of the placards they were waving had socialist workers party at the top.
One leftist on twitter claimed that was because they are so often left around.
these kids were encouraged to truant by left wing teachers, I wonder how they would have reacted if they had wanted to go on a pro brexit march.

But it will be great to see these kids abandoning their parents chelsea tractors for getting to school and ditching their iphones built with slave labour in china, ditching the half term hols flying to switzerland for a spot of skiing. Or doesn't their activism stretch that far?

I think the division is more likely the fact that the opposition to the climate issue is big business and the RW oil industry.  Socialism is a non sequitur.

But hats off to the teachers, who after all are teaching kids real science.
if "fuck off Mrs May" and "Oh Jeremy Corbyn" is teaching them the right thing then your idea and my idea of good teaching differ wildly.

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deano wrote:By the way climate change has been going on since the first day the earth got an atmosphere and few would deny that, it is the man made part that is far from proven.

I think by all standards it has been proven.
no it hasn't. they are using the wrong models, they didn't even get where the deep ocean conveyor operated .the models are flawed. Garbage in, Garbage out.

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The Devil, You Know wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I think by all standards it has been proven.
no it hasn't. they are using the wrong models, they didn't even get where the deep ocean conveyor operated .the models are flawed. Garbage in, Garbage out.

Waffle.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:59 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I think by all standards it has been proven.
no it hasn't. they are using the wrong models, they didn't even get where the deep ocean conveyor operated .the models are flawed. Garbage in, Garbage out.

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Stop spouting more of your ignorant lies...

You pathetic little fantasist..

You obviously know less-than-zero about the subject, Deano.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:03 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
no it hasn't. they are using the wrong models, they didn't even get where the deep ocean conveyor operated .the models are flawed. Garbage in, Garbage out.

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Stop spouting more of your ignorant lies...

You pathetic little fantasist..

You obviously know less-than-zero about the subject, Deano.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6654619/Ocean-mixing-drives-climate-surprise-location.html

http://www.deepseanews.com/2009/05/deep-ocean-conveyor-belt/

their models are wrong so garbage in, garbage out.

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Original Quill wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
no it hasn't. they are using the wrong models, they didn't even get where the deep ocean conveyor operated .the models are flawed. Garbage in, Garbage out.

Waffle.
see above

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Post by 'Wolfie on Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:05 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
man made climate change is a scam to fill government coffers and make idiots feel good about doing. If it was serious every penny raised would have gone to green tech research and we would all have pocket reactors who's only byproduct was gold bars. the fact that only a fraction goes on green tech and research blows the lie out of the water.

By the way climate change has been going on since the first day the earth got an atmosphere and few would deny that, it is the man made part that is far from proven. Although I do understand that many scientists funding relies on it.

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Your ignorant anti-science bullshit is the real "scam" here, turds for brains...

Work for the oil industry, do you Deano ?

You sound like nothing less than a one-man cheer squad for Christopher Monckton -- friend of yours, is he ?

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Post by 'Wolfie on Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:07 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Rolling Eyes

Stop spouting more of your ignorant lies...

You pathetic little fantasist..

You obviously know less-than-zero about the subject, Deano.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6654619/Ocean-mixing-drives-climate-surprise-location.html

http://www.deepseanews.com/2009/05/deep-ocean-conveyor-belt/

their models are wrong so garbage in, garbage out.

Rolling Eyes

The only GIGO here is your arrogant bullshit...

You obviously know nothing about the sciences, when you're the one being so easily duped by puff pieces from the polluting industries themselves..

Neither of your links is a viable or believable reference source  --  better luck next time, doofus.


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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:09 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6654619/Ocean-mixing-drives-climate-surprise-location.html

http://www.deepseanews.com/2009/05/deep-ocean-conveyor-belt/

their models are wrong so garbage in, garbage out.

Rolling Eyes

The only GIGO here is your arrogant bullshit...

You obviously know nothing about the sciences, when you're the one being duped by puff pieces from the polluting industries themselves..
these are the very scientists who claim can do no wrong.
IF the model is flawed all the output from that model is flawed.

I wont expect an apology any time soon from a childish little follower.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:14 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Rolling Eyes

The only GIGO here is your arrogant bullshit...

You obviously know nothing about the sciences, when you're the one being duped by puff pieces from the polluting industries themselves..
these are the very scientists who claim can do no wrong.
IF the model is flawed all the output from that model is flawed.

I wont expect an apology any time soon from a childish little follower.

Rolling Eyes

You keep on spouting bullshit propaganda from company-owned pseudo "scientists"...

You're the last person who can expect any "apologies" around here, you ignorant little clod..

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WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
these are the very scientists who claim can do no wrong.
IF the model is flawed all the output from that model is flawed.

I wont expect an apology any time soon from a childish little follower.

Rolling Eyes

You keep on spouting bullshit propaganda from company-owned pseudo "scientists"...

You're the last person who can expect any "apologies" around here,  you ignorant little clod..
so you wont accept science that does not agree with your preconceived notions. Please dont even bother to argue for MMCC any more. You are a zealot and a fanatic. delete your account.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:24 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Rolling Eyes

You keep on spouting bullshit propaganda from company-owned pseudo "scientists"...

You're the last person who can expect any "apologies" around here,  you ignorant little clod..
so you wont accept science that does not agree with your preconceived notions. Please dont even bother to argue for MMCC any more. You are a zealot and a fanatic. delete your account.

Rolling Eyes

What the fuck is the " argue for MMCC" nonsense -- creating your own garbage these days, shit for brains...

I am neither a zealot nor a fanatic -- but a university-trained scientific thinker, living out in the real world..

You, on the other hand, Deano, are a high school dropout who obviously failed science in Year 7, ran away to hide from the British Army, and now a rampant apologist for the oil and mining companies -- great little resume there, DYKNose !

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WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
so you wont accept science that does not agree with your preconceived notions. Please dont even bother to argue for MMCC any more. You are a zealot and a fanatic. delete your account.

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What the fuck is the " argue for MMCC"  nonsense  --  creating your own garbage these days, shit for brains...

I am neither a zealot nor a fanatic --  but a university-trained scientific thinker, living out in the real world..

You, on the other hand, Deano,  are a high school dropout who obviously failed science in Year 7, ran away to hide from the British Army, and now a rampant apologist for the oil and mining companies  --  great little resume there,  DYKNose  !
Man Made Climate change, dont you even know what you are arguing for. Perhaps get a better briefing from your controller befpore you comment. you aren't Dianne Abbott by any chance are you.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:47 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Rolling Eyes

What the fuck is the " argue for MMCC"  nonsense  --  creating your own garbage these days, shit for brains...

I am neither a zealot nor a fanatic --  but a university-trained scientific thinker, living out in the real world..

You, on the other hand, Deano,  are a high school dropout who obviously failed science in Year 7, ran away to hide from the British Army, and now a rampant apologist for the oil and mining companies  --  great little resume there,  DYKNose  !
Man Made Climate change, dont you even know what you are arguing for. Perhaps get a better briefing from your controller befpore you comment. you aren't Dianne Abbott by any chance are you.

Dean, acronyms are not arguments.  It's more of the jingoism that RW'ers love.

All of modern science augurs for human generated pollution being the cause of climate change.  All the RW has is bollocks, and a faith that the public is stupid enough to believe them.

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Post by Lurker on Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:06 pm

Governments have their heads in the sand, especially the corrupt Trump repugnuts. Repugnuts don't believe in climate change or anything worthwhile.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:07 pm


Most of the last 2000 and 10000 years have been warmer than today with lower co2 levels...


We are coming out of the recent cool period known as the "mini ice age", and returning to what the long term normal temperatures should be!!!



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Tommy Monk wrote:
Most of the last 2000 and 10000 years have been warmer than today with lower co2 levels...


We are coming out of the recent cool period known as the "mini ice age", and returning to what the long term normal temperatures should be!!!

Brought on by man's use of fossil fuels.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:25 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
these are the very scientists who claim can do no wrong.
IF the model is flawed all the output from that model is flawed.

I wont expect an apology any time soon from a childish little follower.

Rolling Eyes

You keep on spouting bullshit propaganda from company-owned pseudo "scientists"...

You're the last person who can expect any "apologies" around here,  you ignorant little clod..
so you wont accept science that does not agree with your preconceived notions. Please dont even bother to argue for MMCC any more. You are a zealot and a fanatic. delete your account.

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:26 pm

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Most of the last 2000 and 10000 years have been warmer than today with lower co2 levels...


We are coming out of the recent cool period known as the "mini ice age", and returning to what the long term normal temperatures should be!!!



Do you have any sources to back up those claims?

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>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:
Most of the last 2000 and 10000 years have been warmer than today with lower co2 levels...


We are coming out of the recent cool period known as the "mini ice age", and returning to what the long term normal temperatures should be!!!



Do you have any sources to back up those claims?


Posted up before on other threads...

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Post by Ben Reilly on Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:53 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:
Most of the last 2000 and 10000 years have been warmer than today with lower co2 levels...


We are coming out of the recent cool period known as the "mini ice age", and returning to what the long term normal temperatures should be!!!



Do you have any sources to back up those claims?


Posted up before on other threads...

In other words, bullshit refuted a thousand times Sleep

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Post by Victorismyhero on Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:15 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:I just wish that they would come up with a reasonably priced  electric vehicle with a 400 mile range that could tow a reasonable wieght...Id swap asap, but there is no way Im paying 70+ thousand for the present crap.

Cool

Bring on the 'Hydrogen Cell' battery systems...

They should give similar range to a regular petrol or diesel vehicle --  much better than the expensive-but-limited range Lithium cells --  and not reliant on a diminishing resource (i.e. Lithium).

Hydrogen cells will also help make electric motors more viable for long range trucks and buses, rather than being currently limited to town-and-city use.

I agree entirely wolfie (thats the second time)....trouble is folks are scared of hydrogen (the hindenberg has a lot to answer for, but if you paint your hydrogen air ship with thermite, what do you expect!!!!!!!!! hydrogen is actually less flammable than petrol (it requires higher energy to ignite) and has less explosive force. However it will need a special fuel container that is full of nano crystalline material that actually absorbs the hydrogen under pressure and releases it when the pressure comes off, since otherwise the pressures and temperature required to store enough gas to make a "tankfull" would be ridiculous

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:51 pm



How do you make the hydrogen...!?


What power source are you going to use to create it...!?


Why not just make cars with bonnet and roof and other panels etc made with solar panel gubbins as the coverings over them...!?


Or is that too easy... and too much of a free power source for the masses...!?


lol!



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