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Post by phildidge on Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:16 pm

Terry Christian faces a Brexiteer backlash today after saying people who want to leave the EU 'should be laid off first' if the economy stalls because 'that's what they voted for'.

The Mancunian broadcaster, 58, who voted remain, claims that he knows of three businesses who have adopted that policy.

Mr Christian, who found fame presenting Channel 4's The Word, claims that Brexiteers have argued that Britain will thrive after cutting ties with ties but could suffer some 'short term pain'.

He claims that businesses who have to make staff redundant should start with Leave voters.

Mr Christian has also run a poll on the issue on his Twitter account where 46 per cent or respondents, the highest proportion of voters, agree with that businesses should 'sack leave voters 1st'.

He said today: 'Brexiteers voted for short term pain, it's time they sucked it up and stopped whining. They should be happy.

'Brexiteers were conned – maybe it won't hit home until they get that P45. Thankfully I know at least 3 employers already ensuring Brexit voters are laid off first, all employers should follow suit where possible'.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6708135/Terry-Christian-says-bosses-forced-lay-people-start-Leave-voters.html

If those companies are going to lay off workers, based on belief. They will have to pay out heavy compensation. As its against the law to discriminate against workers, based on beliefs. This includes political beleifs. As they are covered under the equality act

Not surprised this comes from a Far leftist and it shows they have no comprehension or idea what equality is.

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Post by smelly-bandit on Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:28 am

Can't wait for that lawsuit

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Post by veya_victaous on Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:09 am

LOL
I agree it is definitely illegal but ... it would be fair Cool

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Post by smelly-bandit on Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:30 am

veya_victaous wrote:LOL
I agree it is definitely illegal but ... it would be fair Cool

So by that logic we should send all liberal pro immigrant women to be raped by the immigrants,why should women who oppose immigration suffer from The rape wave??

What do you think??

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Post by Eilzel on Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:07 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:LOL
I agree it is definitely illegal but ... it would be fair Cool

So by that logic we should send all liberal pro immigrant women to be raped by the immigrants,why should women who oppose immigration suffer from The rape wave??

What do you think??

False equivalence.

And I agree with veya, it would be illegal but fair.

We've spent years hearing how there might be an immediate hit to the economy, and there would be short term sacrifices, but that Brexiteers willingly choose this because apparently it will lead to a new golden age.

You voted for that outcome, we voted for stability. Why should Remainers suffer for the recklessness of Brexiteers?

Of course, according to your lot, no one should really have anything to worry about Wink

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Post by phildidge on Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:17 am

Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

So by that logic we should send all liberal pro immigrant women to be raped by the immigrants,why should women who oppose immigration suffer from The rape wave??

What do you think??

False equivalence.

And I agree with veya, it would be illegal but fair.

We've spent years hearing how there might be an immediate hit to the economy, and there would be short term sacrifices, but that Brexiteers willingly choose this because apparently it will lead to a new golden age.

You voted for that outcome, we voted for stability. Why should Remainers suffer for the recklessness of Brexiteers?

Of course, according to your lot, no one should really have anything to worry about Wink


So by the same reasoning, you would be happy for only leavers to gain  the benefits of brexit then?

As remainers, should not be allowed to enjoy, something they voted against?

Only the left would claim people deserve to lose jobs, based on an absurd reasoning which in reality is a blatant prejudice.

I voted to remain but would not think people derserved to lose their jobs, if then Brexit went wrong

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Post by veya_victaous on Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:18 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:LOL
I agree it is definitely illegal but ... it would be fair Cool

So by that logic we should send all liberal pro immigrant women to be raped by the immigrants,why should women who oppose immigration suffer from The rape wave??

What do you think??

I'm confused, are the conservative women going to be raped by the local hillshepherds? why are you sending women to be raped? is the UK down on it's rape quota or something? confused confused confused (businesses don't fire people for no reason, what's your reason for enabling rape?)

And the rape wave is only in our pornhub stream smelly, not real life Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Post by phildidge on Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:19 am

The narrative of a mass exodus of City jobs has already been consigned to the Project Fear dustbin of history, with just 2,000 jobs now expected to move in the event of no-deal, compared to wild predictions of over 230,000 before the referendum. Now the FT of all places is reporting that EU asset managers are actually considering moving to the UK because of Brexit. That wasn’t in the script…


EU fund managers are up in arms over EU rules which would force them to trade dual-listed shares on uncompetitive EU exchanges after Brexit if the Commission refuse to give them access to London after Brexit. The German Investment Funds Association said that “without equivalence granted to UK trading venues, we see the real possibility of EU27 fund managers locating operations in the future in the UK”London’s pull as the financial capital of the world is just too strong, whether the EU likes it or not…

https://order-order.com/2019/02/15/eu-investors-considering-moves-uk-brexit/

So any new investment is going to create more jobs, which by Veya and Eilzel's reckoning only the leavers would deserve, right?

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Post by veya_victaous on Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:22 am

Thor wrote:
Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

So by that logic we should send all liberal pro immigrant women to be raped by the immigrants,why should women who oppose immigration suffer from The rape wave??

What do you think??

False equivalence.

And I agree with veya, it would be illegal but fair.

We've spent years hearing how there might be an immediate hit to the economy, and there would be short term sacrifices, but that Brexiteers willingly choose this because apparently it will lead to a new golden age.

You voted for that outcome, we voted for stability. Why should Remainers suffer for the recklessness of Brexiteers?

Of course, according to your lot, no one should really have anything to worry about Wink


So by the same reasoning, you would be happy for only leavers to gain  the benefits of brexit then?

As remainers, should not be allowed to enjoy, something they voted against?

Only the left would claim people deserve to lose jobs, based on an absurd reasoning which in reality is a blatant prejudice.

I voted to remain but would not think people derserved to lose their jobs, if then Brexit went wrong

no one is saying brexiters can't keep their jobs, just they should be first to receive the consequences of Brexit, good or bad Cool
Obviously either way everyone is going to gain or suffer accordingly as whatever the outcomes is develops to effect the whole economy.

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Post by phildidge on Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:24 am

So let me also point out, that if something is rightfully illegal.

It can then never be fair if people did lose their jobs, based off a belief they have

It would rightly be seen as unfair, prejudice and discrimination

This is why those on the left who claim to be progressive, are as seen clearly not so

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Post by phildidge on Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:25 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Thor wrote:


So by the same reasoning, you would be happy for only leavers to gain  the benefits of brexit then?

As remainers, should not be allowed to enjoy, something they voted against?

Only the left would claim people deserve to lose jobs, based on an absurd reasoning which in reality is a blatant prejudice.

I voted to remain but would not think people derserved to lose their jobs, if then Brexit went wrong

no one is saying brexiters can't keep their jobs, just they should be first to receive the consequences of Brexit, good or bad Cool
Obviously either way everyone is going to gain or suffer accordingly as whatever the outcomes is develops to effect the whole economy.

People will gain and suffer from this, but that should not be processed through a means oin the beleifs surrounding brexit

If people gained an advantage because of brexit and that they voted leave, my view is the same

It would illegal and unfair

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veya_victaous wrote:
Thor wrote:


So by the same reasoning, you would be happy for only leavers to gain  the benefits of brexit then?

As remainers, should not be allowed to enjoy, something they voted against?

Only the left would claim people deserve to lose jobs, based on an absurd reasoning which in reality is a blatant prejudice.

I voted to remain but would not think people derserved to lose their jobs, if then Brexit went wrong

no one is saying brexiters can't keep their jobs, just they should be first to receive the consequences of Brexit, good or bad Cool
Obviously either way everyone is going to gain or suffer accordingly as whatever the outcomes is develops to effect the whole economy.

People will gain and suffer from this, but that should not be processed through a means oin the beleifs surrounding brexit

If people gained an advantage because of brexit and that they voted leave, my view is the same

It would illegal and unfair

it would be illegal but it would be fair Cool

if the only difference is between 2 people is one voted to be in the circumstance and the other voted against it.
how would it be fair to fire the person that voted against going down the path where someone needed to be fired ?

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Post by phildidge on Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:35 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
Thor wrote:

People will gain and suffer from this, but that should not be processed through a means oin the beleifs surrounding brexit

If people gained an advantage because of brexit and that they voted leave, my view is the same

It would illegal and unfair

it would be illegal but it would be fair Cool

if the only difference is between 2 people is one voted to be in the circumstance and the other voted against it.
how would it be fair to fire the person that voted against going down the path where someone needed to be fired ?

Well for one, its illegal and unfair
Two, most boses wont even know how people voted
Third, people made redundent will be most likely based on least time of lengh of service and roles that the company can make cuts on
Fourth, that is why it will be based on the above and beliefs wont factor into who might lose their jobs, if of course that even happens.
Fifth, people who voted leave are not responsible, for the immaturity of the EU and the failings of the British governement to negotitiate a divorce.

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Post by veya_victaous on Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:41 am

The EU is not being Immature they are being very accommodating to the UK

And they voted for it with NO PLAN!!!! the leader of Brexit left as soon as the hard work began
They are entirely responsible for their own stupidity.... I don't see how you can argue against it when you support people suffering the consequences of their own stupidity in other threads.

It's illegal but totally fair, if they had honor they would offer to take the redundancy first Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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veya_victaous wrote:The EU is not being Immature they are being very accommodating to the UK

And they voted for it with NO PLAN!!!! the leader of Brexit left as soon as the hard work began
They are entirely responsible for their own stupidity.... I don't see how you can argue against it when you support people suffering the consequences of their own stupidity in other threads.

It's illegal but totally fair, if they had honor they would offer to take the redundancy first Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes  


Ilogical reasoning Veya

They voted to leave an d we are talking millions opf people. Which you are now making where they have families also culpable to the beliefs of their parents. That is not fair in any given situation and why no company would do so, as its against the law
Its then down to the Governement and EU to compremise a happy divorce. You are of the reason this was a stupid move. Its not to the people who did vote to leave and this country has faced far worse and come out on top. 

Which the EU is not happy to do.

That is not the fault of the people who voted to leave but the fault is with the Governement and the EU

Its like trying to place blame on the wife in marriage, when she wants to leave as she is unhappy with how that husband has treated her badly. Which the EU has.

Again if something is illegal, it is thus illegal, as its deemed unfair to discriminate against people on their beliefs.

You cannot just pick and chose what is fair to you on discrimination. Otherwise you make the resoning to prevent such discrimination as redundent.

The EU could quite easily come to a better compremise, but is being bitter like poor bullying husbands that have treated their wivies poorly. They have no comprehension of what it means to be amicable.

In the end the EU will implode, just as did the Communist block did. They are already struggling to cope with the Southern EU economies and the Northern ones, cannot simple continue to bail them out.

Italy, will no doubt, followed by Hungary leave the EU

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Post by veya_victaous on Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:25 am

So you think millions of jobs will be lost do due to Brexit?

the EU could Implode, which is why it is in it's best interests for the UK to be economically obliterated as a warning to it's less enthusiastic members... Neutral

the EU has no responsibility towards the well being of the British, that is what the Tommy voted for Cool  

and your premise of equating legality to fairness and/or morality is wrong
laws are routinely unfair and immoral Rolling Eyes

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veya_victaous wrote:So you think millions of jobs will be lost do due to Brexit?

the EU could Implode, which is why it is in it's best interests for the UK to be economically obliterated as a warning to it's less enthusiastic members... Neutral

the EU has no responsibility towards the well being of the British, that is what the Tommy voted for Cool  

and your premise of equating legality to fairness and/or morality is wrong
laws are routinely unfair and immoral Rolling Eyes


1)  Nope, even with a no brexit deal. I doubt it would be more than a couple of hundred thousand and this is short term. Germany alone is predicted to lose around 1-2 hundred thousand and again short term

2) That is very totalitarian of you mate. The Uk has the strongerst economy out of all the EU countries, so I doubt that is going to happen. In the end it will be Germany that will push the others to cave in. They face as many job loses and many Germany industries will not want to see any further loses in sales. Which would push Germany into recession by the end of the year. The EU is at the very edge of one at the moment. If that happens again, then the EU will definately fall apart. All because the EU leaders put their own selfish interests over that of the people of the EU.

3) So you think the law is wrong that protects people from prejudice and discrimination?

Eiether you back the view to protect people from prejudice and discrimination or you allow  discrimination against ethnic minorities, religious people, homosexuals, Transgenders etc

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If brexit goes well and we prosper, leavers should get a tax break whilst remoaners should get a tax hike.....
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Post by nicko on Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:30 am

Hesiltine gets £90 grand a year from the E U, to leave his fields Fallow, no wonder he licks EU arse !
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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:41 am

Lord Foul wrote:If brexit goes well and we prosper, leavers should get a tax break whilst remoaners should get a tax hike.....
Whats sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander


And ban them from voting in the future UK democracy too... cos they voted against the UK democracy running the country.


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Tommy Monk wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:If brexit goes well and we prosper, leavers should get a tax break whilst remoaners should get a tax hike.....
Whats sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander


And bam them from voting in the future UK democracy too... cos they voted against the UK democracy running the country.



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Lord Foul wrote:If brexit goes well and we prosper, leavers should get a tax break whilst remoaners should get a tax hike.....
Whats sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander

that's not the same

brexiters get the tax break first, would be the same Wink

Like Thor, You seem to be saying you think So many Jobs will disappear that ALL brexiters will need to be made redundant Suspect Suspect Suspect
Why Are You talking about ALL remainers? no one is talking about ALL brexiters....

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Thor wrote:Terry Christian faces a Brexiteer backlash today after saying people who want to leave the EU 'should be laid off first' if the economy stalls because 'that's what they voted for'.

The Mancunian broadcaster, 58, who voted remain, claims that he knows of three businesses who have adopted that policy.

Mr Christian, who found fame presenting Channel 4's The Word, claims that Brexiteers have argued that Britain will thrive after cutting ties with ties but could suffer some 'short term pain'.

He claims that businesses who have to make staff redundant should start with Leave voters.

Mr Christian has also run a poll on the issue on his Twitter account where 46 per cent or respondents, the highest proportion of voters, agree with that businesses should 'sack leave voters 1st'.

He said today: 'Brexiteers voted for short term pain, it's time they sucked it up and stopped whining. They should be happy.

'Brexiteers were conned – maybe it won't hit home until they get that P45. Thankfully I know at least 3 employers already ensuring Brexit voters are laid off first, all employers should follow suit where possible'.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6708135/Terry-Christian-says-bosses-forced-lay-people-start-Leave-voters.html

If those companies are going to lay off workers, based on belief. They will have to pay out heavy compensation. As its against the law to discriminate against workers, based on beliefs. This includes political beleifs. As they are covered under the equality act

Not surprised this comes from a Far leftist and it shows they have no comprehension or idea what equality is.
It appears that remainiacs and washed up tv presenters do not care a jot about employment law or workers rights, as long as they can take revenge on those who have dared to oppose them. I look forward to the employers that he mentions being taken to the cleaners by industrial tribunals.

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veya_victaous wrote:LOL
I agree it is definitely illegal but ... it would be fair Cool
what a surprise another left winger who does not care about workers rights if they go against his thinking

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Eilzel wrote:
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So by that logic we should send all liberal pro immigrant women to be raped by the immigrants,why should women who oppose immigration suffer from The rape wave??

What do you think??

False equivalence.

And I agree with veya, it would be illegal but fair.

We've spent years hearing how there might be an immediate hit to the economy, and there would be short term sacrifices, but that Brexiteers willingly choose this because apparently it will lead to a new golden age.

You voted for that outcome, we voted for stability. Why should Remainers suffer for the recklessness of Brexiteers?

Of course, according to your lot, no one should really have anything to worry about Wink
yes we have heard about the immediate hit to the economy, project fear which remainiacs swallowed hook, line and sinker has already been proved false.

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veya_victaous wrote:The EU is not being Immature they are being very accommodating to the UK

And they voted for it with NO PLAN!!!! the leader of Brexit left as soon as the hard work began
They are entirely responsible for their own stupidity.... I don't see how you can argue against it when you support people suffering the consequences of their own stupidity in other threads.

It's illegal but totally fair, if they had honor they would offer to take the redundancy first Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes  
mp's voted overwhelmingly for the brexit referendum and triggering article 50, both of which default action was leaving on WTO terms. they also voted to enshrine in law the EU withdrawal bill with a smaller majority but a majority none the less.
they have overwhelmingly rejected mays deal and by default voted to leave on wto terms unless may can get major concessions from the EU in the next 39 days

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veya_victaous wrote:The EU is not being Immature they are being very accommodating to the UK

And they voted for it with NO PLAN!!!! the leader of Brexit left as soon as the hard work began
They are entirely responsible for their own stupidity.... I don't see how you can argue against it when you support people suffering the consequences of their own stupidity in other threads.

It's illegal but totally fair, if they had honor they would offer to take the redundancy first Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes  


Ilogical reasoning Veya

They voted to leave an d we are talking millions opf people. Which you are now making where they have families also culpable to the beliefs of their parents. That is not fair in any given situation and why no company would do so, as its against the law
Its then down to the Governement and EU to compremise a happy divorce. You are of the reason this was a stupid move. Its not to the people who did vote to leave and this country has faced far worse and come out on top. 

Which the EU is not happy to do.

That is not the fault of the people who voted to leave but the fault is with the Governement and the EU

Its like trying to place blame on the wife in marriage, when she wants to leave as she is unhappy with how that husband has treated her badly. Which the EU has.

Again if something is illegal, it is thus illegal, as its deemed unfair to discriminate against people on their beliefs.

You cannot just pick and chose what is fair to you on discrimination. Otherwise you make the resoning to prevent such discrimination as redundent.

The EU could quite easily come to a better compremise, but is being bitter like poor bullying husbands that have treated their wivies poorly. They have no comprehension of what it means to be amicable.

In the end the EU will implode, just as did the Communist block did. They are already struggling to cope with the Southern EU economies and the Northern ones, cannot simple continue to bail them out.

Italy, will no doubt, followed by Hungary leave the EU
The only people I have read about ditching friends and family over brexit are the most rabid of remainiacs

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veya_victaous wrote:So you think millions of jobs will be lost do due to Brexit?

the EU could Implode, which is why it is in it's best interests for the UK to be economically obliterated as a warning to it's less enthusiastic members... Neutral

the EU has no responsibility towards the well being of the British, that is what the Tommy voted for Cool  

and your premise of equating legality to fairness and/or morality is wrong
laws are routinely unfair and immoral Rolling Eyes
millions wont be lost, since the vote millions have been added. there will be some short term disruption but nowhere near as much as project fear is trying to say.
Flights are not being cancelled, ports are not closing down, the only people demanding a hard border in ireland are the EU who are even now in the very process of throwing ireland under the bus.

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Post by The Devil, You Know on Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:16 pm

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veya_victaous wrote:So you think millions of jobs will be lost do due to Brexit?

the EU could Implode, which is why it is in it's best interests for the UK to be economically obliterated as a warning to it's less enthusiastic members... Neutral

the EU has no responsibility towards the well being of the British, that is what the Tommy voted for Cool  

and your premise of equating legality to fairness and/or morality is wrong
laws are routinely unfair and immoral Rolling Eyes


1)  Nope, even with a no brexit deal. I doubt it would be more than a couple of hundred thousand and this is short term. Germany alone is predicted to lose around 1-2 hundred thousand and again short term

2) That is very totalitarian of you mate. The Uk has the strongerst economy out of all the EU countries, so I doubt that is going to happen. In the end it will be Germany that will push the others to cave in. They face as many job loses and many Germany industries will not want to see any further loses in sales. Which would push Germany into recession by the end of the year. The EU is at the very edge of one at the moment. If that happens again, then the EU will definately fall apart. All because the EU leaders put their own selfish interests over that of the people of the EU.

3) So you think the law is wrong that protects people from prejudice and discrimination?

Eiether you back the view to protect people from prejudice and discrimination or you allow  discrimination against ethnic minorities, religious people, homosexuals, Transgenders etc
in the city of london project fear said financial staff would be leaving in their hundreds of thousands. City bank is just in the process of buying its tower block for £1.2 billion, job moving in the city have been in a low thousands at most. Even investors in europe are looking to london once we leave. London was the number one financial capital before the EU, it was the number one financial capital during our time in the EU and will be the number one financial capital after we have left. there are more financial jobs on offer in london at the moment than in the rest of the EU put together. no other EU financial capital even features in the top ten in the world.

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