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Post by Tommy Monk on Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:18 pm

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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/gang-member-who-donned-clown-mask-while-waving-shotgun-during-east-london-police-chase-faces-jail-a4053316.html

A loaded shotgun was found in the car, while cartridges were discovered on the ground nearby. Forensic testing showed it had not been fired on the night of July 26 last year.

Akinsoji was on trial alongside Nathaniel Lewis, 23, Darnell Joseph-Newill, 21, and Troy Ifill, 22, who were also said to be associated with east London gangs, who had formed an alliance under the name "Northside Newham".

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-47058948

Worcester acid attack accused sent 'nailed it!' text


More about this story here...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6619069/Father-organised-ACID-attack-three-year-old-son-Home-Bargains.html

Father 'organised ACID attack on his three-year-old son in Home Bargains to ruin wife's divorce bid by making her appear an unfit mother - after he asked imam whether it was Islamic to murder her and their three children' 

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A court sketch today showing (left to right) Norbert Pulko, Saied Hussini, the father of the boy (who cannot be identified), Martina Badiova, Adam Cech, Jabar Paktia and Jan Dudi





https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47045490

Three teenagers have been arrested after a 17-year-old boy was stabbed to death in a street attack in north London.

The victim, who died at the scene on Caledonian Road, Islington, on Tuesday, has been named as Nedim Bilgin.

Two male suspects, aged 16 and 17, were arrested nearby on suspicion of murder, and an 18-year-old man was arrested at an address in Islington, the Met Police said.

All three remain in custody.





https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-47061701

Gang 'smuggled immigrants in dinghy' into Kent

Thomas Mason, 36, Hoa Thi Nguyen, 49, and Chi Tan Huynh, 41...

And...

Nazmi Velia, 32, of Park Street Lane, St Albans
Egert Kajaci, 35, of Turner Drive, Oxford
Erald Gapi, 27, of Marine Tower, Deptford
Wayne Lee, 46, of Grasmere Close, Watford




https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-47054348

Croydon 'zombie knife' sentence overturned

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47059020

Park Lane doorman murder accused appear in court

Haroon Akram, 25, Adham Khalil, 20, and Adham Elshalakany, 23, appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court earlier.








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Post by phildidge on Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:03 pm

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:40 pm

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Notice that house prices and wages stayed pretty close ratio up until 1997...


Now... Labour got in govt in 1997... immediately opened the taps on mass immigration... and you can clearly see the result being huge increase in housing costs...


Plus you can clearly see how the over supply of all these new potential workers has had a negative effect on wage increases!!!


Massive increase in demand but limited supply = huge price rise... it's basic economics!!!



Reposted for didge...





Look at the graph of truth and reality dodge!!!


Think about what the fundamental economic principle of "supply and demand" tells you!!!


Look at how housing costs sky rocketed after Labour got in govt in 1997 and opened the taps on mass immigration!!!


Look at how wage rises stagnated even more in 2004 when Labour also allowed even more mass immigration by allowing the free movement to all those other new EU eastern European countries back then!!!


The evidence is right there in front of your eyes for you to see man!!!


And it shouldn't now be a surprise to you to see any of this... because I've been posting for years about the negative impacts of Labour's mass immigration policy, and how it has massively increased the costs of living while also holding down wage rises... and how this will have massive wider negative effects on so many other aspects of the economy, as well as huge negative effects on society in general... but have always just had idiot lefty's try shouting me down as being "racist"... while none of them have ever had any real understanding of the economics of my arguments or the coming negative impacts that I have so often warned about!!!


Even now... when the evidence is so blatantly obvious and clear to see... you still deny it... and still try to shout "racism" at me...!!!


If I said it was sunny outside, you would say it was raining and that I was just denying the equal rights of dark clouds being in the sky because I was racist...!!!


Your levels of stupidity, ignorance and arrogance are truly beyond belief!!!


lol!











Look at the facts since 1960...


Housing costs and wages have largely remained at similar comparable levels...


Until... 1997...!!!


So... the obvious question is... what happened in 1997 that might have had any effect on things... when for previous decades things were much the same...!?



Answer... Labour opened up the floodgates to mass immigration in 1997!!!



Massively increasing demand for housing... while there was limited supply...


And we know from basic economic principles that when you increase demand while supply remains low... that this will increase costs!!!


And this is exactly what can be seen in the graph!!!


And then it can also be seen around 2004 that wage rises stagnated...


What happened in 2004 that may have caused this...?


Labour allowed even more mass immigration by allowing loads of new EU countries to cone here under free movement...!!!


Too much supply of workers with limited jobs = wage rise suppression and wage stagnation!!!



It's blatantly obvious to anyone with any sense of sanity and rational thinking!!!


So... why does didge find it so impossible to see the reality of what's going on...!!!???




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Post by phildidge on Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:41 pm

Thor wrote:Immigration has contributed 21% towards house price growth in England, according to analysis by the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government. But MHCLG also says the data doesn’t provide a complete answer and should be used cautiously. It found that income growth is the biggest driver of increased house prices.
                
English house prices have risen by 320% on average over this period.           


Other research estimating the impact of immigration on house prices has been inconclusive. Some sources say immigration leads to significant increases in house prices, while others say that immigration leads to a fall, particularly at a local level (i.e. immigration into specific areas reduces house prices within those locales).
 

The analysis was originally unpublished



Speaking to the Sunday Times last week, housing minister Dominic Raab said that the government’s ambition to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands would help tackle the demand side of the housing shortage, quoting analysis that immigrants had accounted for a 20% rise in house prices over the past 25 years. At the time this analysis was unpublished. 
Following contact from the UK Statistics Authority, MHCLG published the analysis.

The analysis suggests immigration has driven up English prices by 21%



The analysis uses a model developed in 2007 by the now-defunct National Housing and Planning Advice Unit (NHPAU) which says that, in England, a 1% increase in the number of households raises house prices by 2% at a national level, all other things being equal.   
For its analysis MHCLG used the change in the population of England born outside of the UK as an indicator for the change in net international migration. It also assumed that the number of households increased in line with the rise in population between 1991 and 2016.
Using official figures, MHCLG found the non-UK-born population in England grew by 4.8 million. This represented a roughly 10% growth in the total population of England, leading to an increase in house prices of 21%.
  
To put that in context, the model estimated that the increase in the total population of England over this time increased prices by 32%, income increases contributed 150%, while increased housing supply pulled prices back down by 40%.    
Between 1991 and 2016, the average English house price increased from £55,000 to £232,000, an increase of 320%.   When factoring in inflation, according to the Consumer Price Index, the increase amounts to 137%.   
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But the complexity of the housing market means the analysis has limitations



MHCLG acknowledge the model’s limits and say: “Given the complexity of the housing market, this analysis is not intended to be exhaustive in its explanatory power and throughout this release references are made to limitations.”
 
It also says that “Use of analysis in this way should be treated cautiously and used primarily to draw stylised inferences.”
For example, the calculations are based on “holding all else equal”. This means the effect of population growth, income changes and housing demand are estimated separately, without allowing for the potential that any of these factors could impact on any of the others.
For example, the model doesn’t allow for the possibility that increased housing demand contributes to increased housing supply, or vice-versa.
The model was also developed in 2007, and so doesn’t necessarily reflect the reality of the housing market today. For example, renting is more common now than it was in 2007.    
  
Changes to the mortgage market during this time and falling interest rates were behind MHCLG’s decision not to estimate the effect of interest rate changes on house prices. It said the market had changed too much over the years for the figures to be reliable.
As the analysis mentions, it is not intended to be exhaustive and other studies are available that analyse the relationship between immigration and house prices. 
   
Other research on the effect of immigration on house prices is inconclusive
The Migration Observatory at Oxford University has said that the “evidence about the impact of migration on the cost of houses is inconclusive.” 


In 2008, Professor Stephen Nickell, then-head of the NHPAU, said that with projected housebuilding and immigration rates, the average house price would rise from 7 times the average income, to 10 times the average income over the period 2006 to 2026.
However, if net migration was reduced to zero, the average house price would only increase to nine times the average income over the same period.
  
In 2011, the Migration Advisory Committee (MAC) (an independent body advising the government on immigration policy), commissioned research which found that the impact on house prices from immigrants with Tier 2 visas over a five-year period was likely to be “well below 1%”.
However their research only considered Tier 2 visas (skilled workers), and so doesn’t estimate the impact of other visa holders (e.g. student visas, family visas).


In 2014, the MAC published another study, looking at research published by Cambridge economist, Dr Filipa Sá, which found, conversely, that immigration reduced house prices slightly at a local level. The research found that for every 1% increase in a population due to immigrants arriving in the area house prices reduced by around 1.6% or 1.7%.


Dr Sá found that the arrival of relatively less affluent immigrants in an area prompted natives to leave the area, and reduce house prices due to a mixture of reduced demand for houses and less wealth in the area. Another study found that immigration to a local area might decrease house prices at the lower end of the scale but had little impact on higher house prices. 
  
Nevertheless the MAC concluded that: “Migration could […] push up prices at the UK level” as UK-born residents left.  
 

https://fullfact.org/immigration/have-house-prices-risen-because-immigrants/


In other words the claim is inconclusive

Which again shows that tommy only wants to see what he wants to see

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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:46 pm




Look at the facts since 1960...


Housing costs and wages have largely remained at similar comparable levels...


Until... 1997...!!!


So... the obvious question is... what happened in 1997 that might have had any effect on things... when for previous decades things were much the same...!?



Answer... Labour opened up the floodgates to mass immigration in 1997!!!



Massively increasing demand for housing... while there was limited supply...


And we know from basic economic principles that when you increase demand while supply remains low... that this will increase costs!!!


And this is exactly what can be seen in the graph!!!


And then it can also be seen around 2004 that wage rises stagnated...


What happened in 2004 that may have caused this...?


Labour allowed even more mass immigration by allowing loads of new EU countries to cone here under free movement...!!!


Too much supply of workers with limited jobs = wage rise suppression and wage stagnation!!!



It's blatantly obvious to anyone with any sense of sanity and rational thinking!!!


So... why does didge find it so impossible to see the reality of what's going on...!!!???





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Post by phildidge on Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:48 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:


Look at the facts since 1960...



Maybe you should start looking at the data on this

https://fullfact.org/immigration/have-house-prices-risen-because-immigrants/


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Post by Tommy Monk on Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:57 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:


Look at the facts since 1960...


Housing costs and wages have largely remained at similar comparable levels...


Until... 1997...!!!


So... the obvious question is... what happened in 1997 that might have had any effect on things... when for previous decades things were much the same...!?



Answer... Labour opened up the floodgates to mass immigration in 1997!!!



Massively increasing demand for housing... while there was limited supply...


And we know from basic economic principles that when you increase demand while supply remains low... that this will increase costs!!!


And this is exactly what can be seen in the graph!!!


And then it can also be seen around 2004 that wage rises stagnated...


What happened in 2004 that may have caused this...?


Labour allowed even more mass immigration by allowing loads of new EU countries to cone here under free movement...!!!


Too much supply of workers with limited jobs = wage rise suppression and wage stagnation!!!



It's blatantly obvious to anyone with any sense of sanity and rational thinking!!!


So... why does didge find it so impossible to see the reality of what's going on...!!!???







Look at the comparative data from 1960 on housing costs vs wages...!!!





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Post by phildidge on Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:00 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Look at the comparative data from 1960 on housing costs vs wages...!!!


Maybe you should start looking at the data on this

https://fullfact.org/immigration/have-house-prices-risen-because-immigrants/

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:07 am




Fullfact is not an authoritative source on anything!


However... from your own post...


Nevertheless the MAC concluded that: “Migration could […] push up prices at the UK level”


So... it is again clear that you do not even read/understand the stuff that YOU post up in trying to argue your OWN point...!


Cos you have just posted up a statement that confirms what I HAVE BEEN SAYING!!!


How stupid must you be to try to argue against me... but to then post up something that confirms what I say... but then also to not actually realise that you have done this...!!!???


You really are a complete idiot... and you have again confirmed this... and confirmed that you have no idea what you are talking about...!!!


You don't even understand what other people are talking about in the stuff you copy and paste in attempts to argue against anything either!!!


Idiot!



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Post by phildidge on Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:31 am

And neither is Migrant watch an authority source

Again as seen its inconclusive, based on the informationand again you cherry pick to back your absurd claim

No matter how many times you are told this

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:47 am




Economics is a science...


Supply and demand is a basic principle of this...



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Post by phildidge on Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:49 am

Tommy Monk wrote:


Economics is a science...


Supply and demand is a basic principle of this...



And the core reason to the rise of cost of living is inflation

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:40 am

Thor wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:


Economics is a science...


Supply and demand is a basic principle of this...



And the core reason to the rise of cost of living is inflation

Supply and demand is a prime cause of inflation.

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Post by phildidge on Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:59 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

And the core reason to the rise of cost of living is inflation

Supply and demand is a prime cause of inflation.



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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:01 am

I don't need to watch a video about it. You seemed to think that inflation was nothing to do with supply and demand.

By the way, raising the wages of people will also lead to inflation.

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Post by phildidge on Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:04 am

Raggamuffin wrote:I don't need to watch a video about it. You seemed to think that inflation was nothing to do with supply and demand.

By the way, raising the wages of people will also lead to inflation.


Again your words not mine and its up to you, if you dont want to fully understand economics

I am happy with that

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:07 am

Thor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I don't need to watch a video about it. You seemed to think that inflation was nothing to do with supply and demand.

By the way, raising the wages of people will also lead to inflation.


Again your words not mine and its up to you, if you dont want to fully understand economics

I am happy with that

It was clear that you didn't understand the connection. Tommy is right - you know nothing about economics.

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Post by phildidge on Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:14 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:


Again your words not mine and its up to you, if you dont want to fully understand economics

I am happy with that

It was clear that you didn't understand the connection. Tommy is right - you know nothing about economics.


Your views, which you are entittled to and you seem more intent in measuring dicks

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:24 am

I stand by what I said. You know nothing about economics.

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Post by phildidge on Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:31 am

Raggamuffin wrote:I stand by what I said. You know nothing about economics.


You can stand by that, but what does that actually mean?

Nothing, its just an opinion you hold

When as seen Tommy tried to skew data, that was in the end inconclusive

So what you are showing is a bias towards Tommy, as you never pulled him up on his flawed economics

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Post by Raggamuffin on Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:17 am

Thor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I stand by what I said. You know nothing about economics.


You can stand by that, but what does that actually mean?

Nothing, its just an opinion you hold

When as seen Tommy tried to skew data, that was in the end inconclusive

So what you are showing is a bias towards Tommy, as you never pulled him up on his flawed economics

It's based on what you said about inflation. Read back.

It's also based on your posts about bridging the gap. It's clear you know nothing about that.

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Shocking figures today reveal the scale of the youth knife crisis after another weekend of carnage on Britain’s blood-soaked streets.

The families of two more murdered teenagers – a Girl Scout once invited to Downing Street and a pupil at a top private school – were in mourning last night.

New statistics show the number of under-16s treated in hospital for stab wounds has nearly doubled in five years.

Doctors are battling to save three children a day on average as knife crime rates soar to the highest level since the Second World War.

As a former police chief branded the epidemic of stabbings a ‘national crisis’, the figures revealed:

A total of 347 under-16s were taken to A&E with stab wounds last year, up from 180 in 2012-13

The number of child knife killers has risen by 77 per cent in two years

Knife-point robberies by teenagers have leapt by more than 50 per cent in the same period, and the number of teens carrying out knife-point rapes has surged by a third

It came after Jodie Chesney, 17, was stabbed in the back as she sat on a park bench with her boyfriend in Romford, east London, on Friday night

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:32 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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And the core reason to the rise of cost of living is inflation

Supply and demand is a prime cause of inflation.



Its pointless Raggs... you are trying to explain the basics of economics to someone who can barely spell the word... let alone grasp the concepts of it...!


lol!


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Post by phildidge on Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:34 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Supply and demand is a prime cause of inflation.



Its pointless Raggs... you are trying to e plain the basics of economics to someone who can barely spell the word... let alone grasp the concepts of it...!


lol!



This coming freom someone who cannot comprehend the term inconclusive?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:25 pm

Full fact is not the authority on anuthing...


Look at the evidence I posted... that is pretty conclusive...!!!


And if you look at just London and southeast data, where most of the immigration has been, you will see even bigger house cost rises!!!


That is pretty conclusive too!!!

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