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Post by Maddog on Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:18 am

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An Ypsilanti man says he was trying to teach a few students dressed in American Indian theme party about respecting Native Americans.

Not long afterward, Nathan Phillips said that an interaction with party-goers and students turned ugly.

Nathan Phillips says he was out for a noon walk on a Saturday in mid-April.
He walked by a home where he saw Eastern Michigan University students dressed as Native Americans.

"They had little feathers on, I was just going to walk by," Phillips said. "A group of them said 'Come on over, come here.'"

He says he walked over to the fence and saw roughly 30 to 40 students involved in a theme party.

"They had their face painted," Phillips said. "I said what the heck is going on here. 'Oh we are honoring you.' I said no you are not honoring me."

It was a statement he says they took offense to.

"Then started whooping and hollering," he said. "I said that wasn't honoring, that was racist. Then at that time, it really got ugly."

Phillips says he was bombarded with racial slurs.

"(They said) 'Go back to the reservation, you blank indian,'" he said.

 One student, he says, threw a beer can at him.

"If I would have stayed where I was at, it would have hit me in the head," he said. "I backed up and it hit me in the chest."

 He had seen enough at that point and says he called the police.

"By the time police got there, it was like there was no party


there at all," he said.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:08 pm

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They're not any more native than any other American these days.

Come again?

Wow please explain that one for me?

Do I need to?

Are you suggesting that other Americans are not real Americans?

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:09 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

Come again?

Wow please explain that one for me?

Do I need to?

Are you suggesting that other Americans are not real Americans?

Where did their European Americans language form

Europe or America?

Take your time

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:10 pm

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The kids weren't marching, so that point is irrelevant. I told you - Phillips wasn't on the march at the time - he went up to the kids deliberately - after the march. It makes no difference whether Phillips had a permit or not - there was nothing to stop anyone else being in that area. He chose to go to the crowd of boys and bang his drum at them. They were fine about it - it's what he did to them afterwards which is the problem.

Of course he was swtill on the march, what a load of baloney by you and again you avoid my questions try again

Did anyone try and stand in their way of their march for life?

It makes all the difference that the Native Indians had a permit

It shgows the lack of respect by the kids

He wasn't on the march. His mates were cavorting around in the video. He was standing there listening to the black guys - like he said. Then he decided they should go in there and bang their drums.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:11 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

Of course he was swtill on the march, what a load of baloney by you and again you avoid my questions try again

Did anyone try and stand in their way of their march for life?

It makes all the difference that the Native Indians had a permit

It shgows the lack of respect by the kids

He wasn't on the march. His mates were cavorting around in the video. He was standing there listening to the black guys - like he said. Then he decided they should go in there and bang their drums.

Wrong again


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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:12 pm

Thor wrote:
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Do I need to?



Are you suggesting that other Americans are not real Americans?

Where did their European Americans language form

Europe or America?

Take your time

Phillips speaks the same language - are you suggesting he's really European?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:12 pm

Thor wrote:
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He wasn't on the march. His mates were cavorting around in the video. He was standing there listening to the black guys - like he said. Then he decided they should go in there and bang their drums.

Wrong again


I'm not wrong - he said it himself.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:12 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

Where did their European Americans language form

Europe or America?

Take your time

Phillips speaks the same language - are you suggesting he's really European?

He also speaks his native Language, which is not English

See how dumb your point was?

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:13 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

Wrong again


I'm not wrong - he said it himself.

Wrong again

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:14 pm

Thor wrote:
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Incorrect.

The permit was for a different location. Rolling Eyes

Wrong

Not wrong.

This is fun.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:15 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

Wrong

Not wrong.

This is fun.

Just wating for you to pull up your sock puppet and go "thats the way to do it"

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:16 pm

The Indigenous Peoples March was a political demonstration and march on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., on January 18, 2019. The event included speeches, prayers, songs, and dance. Its goal was to draw attention to global injustices against indigenous peoples. After prayers outside the Building of Interior Affairs, the marchers proceeded along Constitution Avenue and ended at Henry Bacon Park, north of the Lincoln Memorial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples#Americas

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:18 pm

Thor wrote:The Indigenous Peoples March was a political demonstration and march on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., on January 18, 2019. The event included speeches, prayers, songs, and dance. Its goal was to draw attention to global injustices against indigenous peoples. After prayers outside the Building of Interior Affairs, the marchers proceeded along Constitution Avenue and ended at Henry Bacon Park, north of the Lincoln Memorial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples#Americas

Opps

Wiki also claimed he was a recon ranger in Vietnam, in the Marine Corps, which is an Army position.

Oops. Embarassed

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:19 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:The Indigenous Peoples March was a political demonstration and march on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., on January 18, 2019. The event included speeches, prayers, songs, and dance. Its goal was to draw attention to global injustices against indigenous peoples. After prayers outside the Building of Interior Affairs, the marchers proceeded along Constitution Avenue and ended at Henry Bacon Park, north of the Lincoln Memorial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples#Americas

Opps

Wiki also claimed he was a recon ranger in Vietnam, in the Marine Corps, which is an Army position.

Oops. Embarassed

Well there is link to the march for this passage, I suggest you challenge that instead

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:19 pm

Thor wrote:The Indigenous Peoples March was a political demonstration and march on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., on January 18, 2019. The event included speeches, prayers, songs, and dance. Its goal was to draw attention to global injustices against indigenous peoples. After prayers outside the Building of Interior Affairs, the marchers proceeded along Constitution Avenue and ended at Henry Bacon Park, north of the Lincoln Memorial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples#Americas

Opps

So not actually at the memorial then.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:20 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:The Indigenous Peoples March was a political demonstration and march on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., on January 18, 2019. The event included speeches, prayers, songs, and dance. Its goal was to draw attention to global injustices against indigenous peoples. After prayers outside the Building of Interior Affairs, the marchers proceeded along Constitution Avenue and ended at Henry Bacon Park, north of the Lincoln Memorial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples#Americas

Opps

So not actually at the memorial then.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:20 pm

Thor wrote:
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Phillips speaks the same language - are you suggesting he's really European?

He also speaks his native Language, which is not English

See how dumb your point was?

Your point was the dumb one. He speaks English with an American accent, like other Americans, so ...

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:22 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:The Indigenous Peoples March was a political demonstration and march on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., on January 18, 2019. The event included speeches, prayers, songs, and dance. Its goal was to draw attention to global injustices against indigenous peoples. After prayers outside the Building of Interior Affairs, the marchers proceeded along Constitution Avenue and ended at Henry Bacon Park, north of the Lincoln Memorial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples#Americas

Opps

So not actually at the memorial then.

I don't think you need permits to stand around the memorial, even beating a drum. It's when you march down the street. That's what the permit was for.

Everyone at the Lincoln memorial had a right to be there.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:22 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

He also speaks his native Language, which is not English

See how dumb your point was?

Your point was the dumb one. He speaks English with an American accent, like other Americans, so ...

That is because it has through colonialism, become the predominant language

Hence the stupidity of your point

Like Brazil speaks Portuguese, due to the Colonization by the Portuguese

Doh

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:23 pm

Thor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

So not actually at the memorial then.

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The march didn't end at the steps did it? That's where he went - to harass the boys. Therefore, he wasn't on the march when he went up to them, right?

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:23 pm

Maddog wrote:
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So not actually at the memorial then.

I don't think you need permits to stand around the memorial, even beating a drum. It's when you march down the street. That's what the permit was for.

Everyone at the Lincoln memorial had a right to be there.

You do not need a permit, but you could at least stand ou of the way of people from march could you not

Would you back people standing in the way of their match for life?

Those kids surely showed little respect for that momument

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:24 pm

What language does this guy speak besides English?

He was raised by a white family.

Maybe he learned some Vietnamese while in the Marine Corps when he never went to Vietnam? Smile

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:24 pm

Thor wrote:
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Your point was the dumb one. He speaks English with an American accent, like other Americans, so ...

That is because it has through colonialism, become the predominant language

Hence the stupidity of your point

Like Brazil speaks Portuguese, due to the Colonization by the Portuguese

Doh

He speaks the same language as other Americans, so what makes him more "native" than them?

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:24 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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The march didn't end at the steps did it? That's where he went - to harass the boys. Therefore, he wasn't on the march when he went up to them, right?

I suggest you understand the route

Sorry, but you made yourself look silly there

Razz

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:25 pm

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I don't think you need permits to stand around the memorial, even beating a drum. It's when you march down the street. That's what the permit was for.

Everyone at the Lincoln memorial had a right to be there.

You do not need a permit, but you could at least stand ou of the way of people from march could you not

Would you back people standing in the way of their match for life?

Those kids surely showed little respect for that momument

The march happens on the streets. They didn't get in the way of any march. They were just standing around watching the village idiots.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:25 pm

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I don't think you need permits to stand around the memorial, even beating a drum. It's when you march down the street. That's what the permit was for.


Everyone at the Lincoln memorial had a right to be there.

You do not need a permit, but you could at least stand ou of the way of people from march could you not

Would you back people standing in the way of their match for life?

Those kids surely showed little respect for that momument

Phillips and his mates weren't on the march at the time. When will you get that?

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:26 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

That is because it has through colonialism, become the predominant language

Hence the stupidity of your point

Like Brazil speaks Portuguese, due to the Colonization by the Portuguese

Doh

He speaks the same language as other Americans, so what makes him more "native" than them?

He has a drum.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:26 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

That is because it has through colonialism, become the predominant language

Hence the stupidity of your point

Like Brazil speaks Portuguese, due to the Colonization by the Portuguese

Doh

He speaks the same language as other Americans, so what makes him more "native" than them?

The native people have their language, culture, religion etc all form in these lands, over at least 12,000 years ago

Most Americans formed their culture from a variety of later European colonists

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:27 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

You do not need a permit, but you could at least stand ou of the way of people from march could you not

Would you back people standing in the way of their match for life?

Those kids surely showed little respect for that momument

Phillips and his mates weren't on the march at the time. When will you get that?

Had they left the march?

No, as why was there still many Native indians about?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:27 pm

Thor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

The march didn't end at the steps did it? That's where he went - to harass the boys. Therefore, he wasn't on the march when he went up to them, right?

I suggest you understand the route

Sorry, but you made yourself look silly there

Razz

Are you suggesting that the march ended at the top of the steps, and that's why Phillips went to go up them? You'll find that's not true. He wasn't on the march at the time - just accept that.

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:27 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

You do not need a permit, but you could at least stand ou of the way of people from march could you not

Would you back people standing in the way of their match for life?

Those kids surely showed little respect for that momument

Phillips and his mates weren't on the march at the time. When will you get that?

Nope, it was over and no one gave a shit.

They went looking for trouble. The crazy, racist black dudes were a bit menacing so they went looking for some kids to fuck with.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:27 pm

Maddog wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

He speaks the same language as other Americans, so what makes him more "native" than them?

He has a drum.

Mocking their culture again

No wonder you back the disrespectful kids

Thanks for proving my point

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:28 pm

Maddog wrote:What language does this guy speak besides English?

He was raised by a white family.

Maybe he learned some Vietnamese while in the Marine Corps when he never went to Vietnam?  Smile  


lol!

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:28 pm

What language does this guy speak besides English?

He was raised by a white family.

Maybe he learned some Vietnamese while in the Marine Corps when he never went to Vietnam?

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:29 pm

Thor wrote:
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Phillips and his mates weren't on the march at the time. When will you get that?

Had they left the march?

No, as why was there still many Native indians about?

Same reason there's usually people hanging around after a march.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:29 pm

Maddog wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Phillips and his mates weren't on the march at the time. When will you get that?

Nope, it was over and no one gave a shit.

They went looking for trouble. The crazy, racist black dudes were a bit menacing so they went looking for some kids to fuck with.

ha ha, look at you getting so angry

So people singing a traditional song, is looking for trouble, not kids having a stand off with some black extremists?

Sorry but you need to take off your white clases, as try a multiculoured pair for a change

Good luck with that

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:29 pm

Thor wrote:
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He has a drum.

Mocking their culture again

No wonder you back the disrespectful kids

Thanks for proving my point

Laughing

No, I'm mocking him.

When I mock you, I'm not mocking Brits.

See how that works?


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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:29 pm

Maddog wrote:
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He speaks the same language as other Americans, so what makes him more "native" than them?

He has a drum.

And he knows how to bang it. Razz

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:30 pm

Thor wrote:
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Nope, it was over and no one gave a shit.

They went looking for trouble. The crazy, racist black dudes were a bit menacing so they went looking for some kids to fuck with.

ha ha, look at you getting so angry

So people singing a traditional song, is looking for trouble, not kids having a stand off with some black extremists?

Sorry but you need to take off your white clases, as try a multiculoured pair for a change

Good luck with that

Angry?

I'm laughing at a dumbass, and defense of said dumbass.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:30 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Had they left the march?

No, as why was there still many Native indians about?

Same reason there's usually people hanging around after a march.

Which the area was part of the march

The point you and Maddog cannot grasp is the kids show zero respect

You both continue to mock this

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:30 pm

Maddog wrote:
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ha ha, look at you getting so angry

So people singing a traditional song, is looking for trouble, not kids having a stand off with some black extremists?

Sorry but you need to take off your white clases, as try a multiculoured pair for a change

Good luck with that

Angry?

I'm laughing at a dumbass, and defense of said dumbass.

By your demeaning language in sentences?

i would say you have been completely triggered by this all lol

Bless

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:31 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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He has a drum.

And he knows how to bang it. Razz

Right in the faces of children.

No doubt the great "warrior" would change his tune in the presence of a grown man.


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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:32 pm

Thor wrote:
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Angry?

I'm laughing at a dumbass, and defense of said dumbass.

By your demeaning language in sentences?

i would say you have been completely triggered by this all lol

Bless

That's just my native language.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:33 pm

Maddog wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

And he knows how to bang it. Razz

Right in the faces of children.

No doubt the great "warrior" would change his tune in the presence of a grown man.


You mean like when they protested at the church?

Or holding peace rallies, confronted by officers wanting to removed them from their own lands?

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:33 pm

Thor wrote:
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Same reason there's usually people hanging around after a march.

Which the area was part of the march

The point you and Maddog cannot grasp is the kids show zero respect

You both continue to mock this

He earned zero respect, and in fact earned their scorn.

He deserved as much respect as Shaun King deserves.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:33 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

By your demeaning language in sentences?

i would say you have been completely triggered by this all lol

Bless

That's just my native language.  

What being triggered?

lol

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Post by Maddog on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:35 pm

Thor wrote:
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Right in the faces of children.

No doubt the great "warrior" would change his tune in the presence of a grown man.


You mean like when they protested at the church?

Or holding peace rallies, confronted by officers wanting to removed them from their own lands?

"He" is not "they".

There are brave and moral American Indians.

He's not in that group though.

Bye!!

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:35 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

Which the area was part of the march

The point you and Maddog cannot grasp is the kids show zero respect

You both continue to mock this

He earned zero respect, and in fact earned their scorn.

He deserved as much respect as Shaun King deserves.  

You mean the alt right went after him, like a dog with a bone

To the point they have tried to delibitimise him at every turn

Something I cast wrong from the left

He has plenty of repesct and I doubt he is going to slose any sleep over you not liking him

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Post by Raggamuffin on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:35 pm

Thor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:


Same reason there's usually people hanging around after a march.

Which the area was part of the march

The point you and Maddog cannot grasp is the kids show zero respect

You both continue to mock this

Are you saying the kids had no right to be there? That's not what you said earlier. They weren't dissing him - he went up to them uninvited and they joined in by clapping and smiling. The wrongdoing came later when he tried to land them in a lot of trouble and tried to turn everyone against them - aided and abetted by much of the media.

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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:38 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

You mean like when they protested at the church?

Or holding peace rallies, confronted by officers wanting to removed them from their own lands?

"He" is not "they".

There are brave and moral American Indians.

He's not in that group though.

Bye!!

The New York Times identified Phillips as a former Director of the Native Youth Alliance, a group that works to ensure that traditional culture and spiritual ways are upheld for future generations of Native Americans,[12] and that he leads an annual ceremony honoring Native American war veterans in Arlington National Cemetery.[12] The Guardian called him "a well-known Native American activist who was among those leading the Standing Rock protests in 2016 and 2017 against the construction of an oil pipeline in North Dakota".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Phillips_(activist)#cite_note-13

https://www.vogue.com/article/nathan-phillips-activist-song-peaceful-resistance-hope

Really?

How is he not brave and moral for being one of the leading these protests?

Bye then and hope you have a good day

Laughing

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Post by 'Wolfie on Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:15 am

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

You mean like when they protested at the church?

Or holding peace rallies, confronted by officers wanting to removed them from their own lands?

"He" is not "they".

There are brave and moral American Indians.

He's not in that group though.

Bye!!

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Do you have any actual evidence to back up your fallacious redneck and white supremacist claims on here, DopeyDawg ???

Or are you happy enough to just keep on stating your baseless opinions..

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