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Post by Maddog on Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:17 am



In an interview published today with Rolling Stone, Rep. Will Hurd (R–Texas) poked holes in Failing Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon's proposed wall on the U.S.–Mexico border.

A wall would be "the most expensive and least effective way to do border security," said Hurd, whose congressional district runs along the southern border from El Paso to San Antonio. Among Hurd's concerns is that building the wall would require lots of land seizures. "There's a thing in Texas we care about called private property rights," he told Rolling Stone. "To get the property rights with eminent domain," he said, "would impact 1,000 property owners in Texas."

There are indeed significant private property concerns when it comes to building a wall, particularly in Texas, where most of the border land is private property. "You have the people who have farms that go up against the Rio Grande because the Rio Grande is a source of water for agriculture and ranching," Hurd told Rolling Stone. "In some areas where there has been a proposal for a wall, in my district alone there's the potential of ceding 1.1 million acres of land to Mexico."

Many landowners aren't happy. And as some have explained to Reason TV, The Washington Post, and the Associated Press, they don't plan to go down without a fight.

Failing Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon, for one, doesn't seem to have a problem with seizing land to build the wall. "You have to use eminent domain," he declared earlier this month. "If we had one person that wouldn't sell us...then we wouldn't be able to build proper border security because we'd have that big opening," he added, before calling it "a fair process."

But what happens if people won't comply? "[Lawsuits are] not going to hold [the wall] up because under the military version of eminent domain and under, actually, homeland security we can do it before we even start," he said. This is technically legal under federal law, which allows for military department secretaries to "acquire any interest in land" if "the acquisition is needed in the interest of national defense." Whether building a wall on the southern border is really an issue of national defense is another question.

Aside from Hurd, not very many GOP House members have expressed concern over the private property ramifications of building a wall. The exception is Rep. Justin Amash (R–Mich.), who last week introduced a bill that would likely stop Trump from using the "military version of eminent domain."

https://reason.com/blog/2019/01/18/anti-wall-gop-rep-will-hurd-theres-a-thi

I really think the Dems should just give Trump the money for his wall. Very little of it will get built. Let's let our federal workers get back to work and work on massively smaller budgets from here on out. Cool

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:16 pm

And according to millions of Trump backers, these right-wing conservatives will now be "Democrats" because they don't agree with everything Trump says.

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Post by eddie on Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:19 pm

You know what these dumbass Texans don’t realise? If they put up a wall to keep the Mexicans out then the price of street drugs are going to shoot up!

Think about it Texan people!

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Post by Ben Reilly on Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:20 pm

eddie wrote:You know what these dumbass Texans don’t realise? If they put up a wall to keep the Mexicans out then the price of street drugs are going to shoot up!

Think about it Texan people!

These Texans don't want the wall, ya deranged Englishwoman!

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Post by Maddog on Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:29 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:And according to millions of Trump backers, these right-wing conservatives will now be "Democrats" because they don't agree with everything Trump says.

Nah, they will call them Rinos or never Trumper neocons.  

Or they might just call them liberal snowflakes like I get called sometimes.

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Post by eddie on Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:31 pm

I’m tellin’ y’all...the price of heroin is going to shoot up.
People are not going to be able to shoot up as much if the prices shoot up.

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Post by phildidge on Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:35 pm

eddie wrote:I’m tellin’ y’all...the price of heroin is going to shoot up.
People are not going to be able to shoot up as much if the prices shoot up.

I already think the drug cartel have no doubt started to build sophisticated tunnels, to get around such a proposal. If not that, they will simple do as they have always done using the sea and air Eddie.

Walls at best are simple deterrants and have never been truely able to stop people entering or leaving.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:37 pm

Was a high wall met me, an tried to stop me
A sign was painted, said: Private Property,
But on the back side it didn't say nothing —
That side was made for you and me.

This Land Is Your Land
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Post by Maddog on Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:58 pm

Original Quill wrote:Was a high wall met me, an tried to stop me
A sign was painted, said: Private Property,
But on the back side it didn't say nothing —
That side was made for you and me.

This Land Is Your Land
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Dont get too carried away.  We can still shoot trespassers after dark.  I would recommend paying attention to those signs.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:15 pm

Yes, and he was born on the wrong side of the Red River Valley.

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Post by nicko on Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:31 pm

Red River Valley, Seem to remember a song called that ?
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Post by Maddog on Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:33 pm

Original Quill wrote:Yes, and he was born on the wrong side of the Red River Valley.

He was born on the same side as son in law 1.  We like Okies.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:56 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:Yes, and he was born on the wrong side of the Red River Valley.

He was born on the same side as son in law 1.  We like Okies.

Yes, but he was a man of the earth. Not like a Buick with a wide chrome stripe down the side, like Texans today.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:59 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:Yes, and he was born on the wrong side of the Red River Valley.

He was born on the same side as son in law 1.  We like Okies.

Incidentally, a lot of Californians are Okies from the dust bowl days. They are still people of the true populus sort.

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Post by Maddog on Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:59 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

He was born on the same side as son in law 1.  We like Okies.

Yes, but he was a man of the earth.  Not like a Buick with a wide chrome stripe down the side, like Texans today.


Buicks ? 

Chrome?

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Post by Maddog on Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:00 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

He was born on the same side as son in law 1.  We like Okies.

Incidentally, a lot of Californians are Okies from the dust bowl days.  They are still people of the true populus sort.


Yes, Bakersfield  is full of Baptist  churches and country music.

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Post by eddie on Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:55 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

He was born on the same side as son in law 1.  We like Okies.

Yes, but he was a man of the earth.  Not like a Buick with a wide chrome stripe down the side, like Texans today.


Buicks ? 

Chrome?

I’m really glad you said that because I also thought “huh?”
Read it aloud to Ben and he said “I don’t even know what that means...?”

Perhaps Quill will explain in simple terms.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:11 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Incidentally, a lot of Californians are Okies from the dust bowl days.  They are still people of the true populus sort.


Yes, Bakersfield  is full of Baptist  churches and country music.

I know. It's a big CW music town. Also has a great Basque community. But that's all come lately.

The dust bowl days were in the 30's. The drought came in three waves, 1934, 1936, and 1939–1940, but some regions of the high plains experienced drought conditions for as many as eight years.

Pulitzer Prize-winning The Grapes of Wrath was written by Steinbeck in 1939. The Okies we are talking about settled in around Tehachapi, the eastern San Joaquin Valley and north, to Stockton.


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