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Post by phildidge on Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:33 pm

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Nathan Phillips, Omaha, is a Vietnam Veteran who hosts a sacred pipe ceremony at Arlington, was taunted in D.C.

Native Twitter has gone ablaze as a Native American elder singing the AIM Song in Washington DC during the Indigenous Peoples March was ridiculed, taunted and mocked by a group of non-Native youth.

The video, which was posted by YouTube account holder KC NOLAND, was also screen captured and shared on other social media accounts with views shortly gaining tens of thousands of views.

The elder is Nathan Phillips, an Omaha elder who is also a Vietnam Veteran and former director of the Native Youth Alliance. He is also a keeper of a sacred pipe and holds an annual ceremony honoring Native American veterans in the Arlington National Cemetery.




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What a bunch of uneducated ingrate little shits.

If there was ever an example of what is wrong in the US today, it was the disrespectful actions of this vile little scumbags

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:49 pm

Nathan Phillips wants to meet with Covington Catholic students

https://eu.cincinnati.com/story/news/local/northern-ky/2019/01/22/nathan-phillips-sandmann-needs-take-responsibility/2641463002/

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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:53 pm

view from chaperone


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4L4jUgDQO8

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:15 pm

gelico wrote:view from chaperone


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4L4jUgDQO8

She's not Native American, so she's lying.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:25 pm




this is very interesting actually


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da1Wy4O2shc&feature=youtu.be



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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:55 pm

gelico wrote:
i haven't seen any footage of build the wall

but you know what?  so what if they did say that

firstly it was a major policy which many people voted for

you do realise that many people of black and ethnic minorities voted for trump and they also want him to build a wall

what is your point on that anyway?

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You just can't help yourself, can you ???

Being the obnoxious and self-entitled white supremacist apologist fuckup that you are..

You deliberately go looking for more and more propagandist "fake news" bullshit to back up your racist agenda.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:06 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
gelico wrote:
i haven't seen any footage of build the wall

but you know what?  so what if they did say that

firstly it was a major policy which many people voted for

you do realise that many people of black and ethnic minorities voted for trump and they also want him to build a wall

what is your point on that anyway?

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You just  can't help yourself, can you  ???

Being the obnoxious and self-entitled white supremacist apologist fuckup that you are..

You deliberately go looking for more and more propagandist "fake news" bullshit to back up your racist agenda.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94nDCm4NqIA

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:07 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
gelico wrote:
i haven't seen any footage of build the wall

but you know what?  so what if they did say that

firstly it was a major policy which many people voted for

you do realise that many people of black and ethnic minorities voted for trump and they also want him to build a wall

what is your point on that anyway?

Rolling Eyes

You just  can't help yourself, can you  ???

Being the obnoxious and self-entitled white supremacist apologist fuckup that you are..

You deliberately go looking for more and more propagandist "fake news" bullshit to back up your racist agenda.


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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:31 pm

Cool

What I find ludicrous here,  fatdog,  is how you, gellibelli and Raggamuffintop have been able to stretch this thread out for some 9 pages sofar...

Collectively dragging up your typical redneck far-right wing propaganda blogs and videos to back up your clearly racist, white supremacist and fascist personal agendas.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:41 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Cool

What I find ludicrous here,  fatdog,  is how you, gellibelli and Raggamuffintop have been able to stretch this thread out for some 9 pages sofar...

Collectively dragging up your typical redneck far-right wing propaganda blogs and videos to back up your clearly racist, white supremacist and fascist personal agendas.

Well, I cant speak for anyone other than me, but it's been quite the collective effort. Thank you for doing you part. tongue

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Now the cute Canadians are even chiming in.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:38 pm

And the veil further begins to come down

New Covington Catholic Footage Shows Teenager Yelling ‘It’s Not Rape If You Enjoy It’

https://millennialpolitics.co/new-covington-catholic-footage-shows-teenager-yelling-its-not-rape-if-you-enjoy-it/

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:10 pm

Thor wrote:And the veil further begins to come down

New Covington Catholic Footage Shows Teenager Yelling ‘It’s Not Rape If You Enjoy It’

https://millennialpolitics.co/new-covington-catholic-footage-shows-teenager-yelling-its-not-rape-if-you-enjoy-it/

16 year old boys yelling something stupid?  

I'm shocked.  Are we going to document the activities of every 16 year old male from last weekend, or just the ones SJWs are obsessed with?

Were you ever 16 or did you go from 12 to 75?

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:17 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:And the veil further begins to come down

New Covington Catholic Footage Shows Teenager Yelling ‘It’s Not Rape If You Enjoy It’

https://millennialpolitics.co/new-covington-catholic-footage-shows-teenager-yelling-its-not-rape-if-you-enjoy-it/

16 year old boys yelling something stupid?  

I'm shocked.  Are we going to document the activities of every 16 year old male from last weekend, or just the ones SJWs are obsessed with?

Were you ever 16 or did you go from 12 to 75?

And as if on cue, again Maddog attempts to further excuse

You cannot make it up

So now being a teenager denies a person the responsibilities of their actions to you?

I am not even an SJW, far from it, but agai this is your poor collective defense

Again I am sure many of the kids did nothing wrong but as stated a core, were hateful, abusive and mocking

Those are the facts and now two videos confirm this

You need to grow up boy lol

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:18 pm

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Raggamuffin wrote:

He wasn't surrounded for hostile reasons. People just came over to see what was happening, that's all. A lot of the boys weren't even looking at him, they were looking at the black chaps.

As for the kid who stared, well Phillips stared at the kid too. Maybe they were trying to see who would look away first.

He wasn't there for five minutes anyway. Just before he arrived, the kids were doing that haka thing and chanting the school thing - nothing to do with him. Then a lot of them sat down, and Phillips arrived.

He believed he was, which is what matters, not your view on this. As you are not in his shoes

Like I say with the kid who stared, he did not seem to act like the others in  the eralier clips, with the confrontations with the Black extremists. I already said I am open to his story. Which again avoided much of also went on, but then maybe he was not aware, with him smilling at Phillips

Those kids got back up again
Which shows you have not watched the videos have you Rags. He move between the groups and was I admit facing the kids, but they started to mock him. Those in front of him, which there is no excuse. He was standing there for some time singing his song. He then got surrounded. He then move and was in front of this kid, who was smilling at him.

He can believe what he likes, but it's what he's been saying since the incident which is the real problem. He should just admit that the boys were not a threat to him, that was just his perception at the time, and that he made assumption which weren't correct. It's also bad of the media to report it like they did - they should have been more discerning instead of just making those accusations against the boys.

I have watched the video. Of course the boys got up again - because Phillips made a beeline for them. They were joining in, clapping along to the drum, enjoying themselves. Isn't that what he wanted? He didn't get surrounded for hostile reasons, as I said. You need to watch it again.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:20 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

He believed he was, which is what matters, not your view on this. As you are not in his shoes

Like I say with the kid who stared, he did not seem to act like the others in  the eralier clips, with the confrontations with the Black extremists. I already said I am open to his story. Which again avoided much of also went on, but then maybe he was not aware, with him smilling at Phillips

Those kids got back up again
Which shows you have not watched the videos have you Rags. He move between the groups and was I admit facing the kids, but they started to mock him. Those in front of him, which there is no excuse. He was standing there for some time singing his song. He then got surrounded. He then move and was in front of this kid, who was smilling at him.

He can believe what he likes, but it's what he's been saying since the incident which is the real problem. He should just admit that the boys were not a threat to him, that was just his perception at the time, and that he made assumption which weren't correct. It's also bad of the media to report it like they did - they should have been more discerning instead of just making those accusations against the boys.

I have watched the video. Of course the boys got up again - because Phillips made a beeline for them. They were joining in, clapping along to the drum, enjoying themselves. Isn't that what he wanted? He didn't get surrounded for hostile reasons, as I said. You need to watch it again.

They were already stood up and he was standing there playing his drums and they were mocking him

Again no excuse

That is all I am seeing from you and others from this

Where as I have stated throughout the victim is turn into the villian, which is no different how native Indians continue to be treated in American and have done for centuries

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/426257-a-long-history-of-disrespecting-native-americans-and-denying-their

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:20 pm

A 16 year old boy yelled something stupid. He will grow to regret some of the dumb things he said and did while fueled by more testosterone than common sense.

We all do, with the exception of St Thor.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:20 pm

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The term vietnam vet implies he was in active service out in vietnam.  he wasn't.  i think it's offensive to use that term anyway

That was the significance of my comment:

Raggamuffin wrote:Nathan Phillips was marching for Native American Vietnam veterans who lost their lives in Southeast Asia in the 1960s and 1970s.  No, he was not one of those who lost his life.

Apparently, y'all took from that he was a Vietnam Vet.  He was marching for them, but not necessarily one of them.

Can you please stop misquoting me? I didn't do that post, you did.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:22 pm

Maddog wrote:A 16 year old boy yelled something stupid. He will grow to regret some of the dumb things he said and did while fueled by more testosterone than common sense.  

We all do, with the exception of St Thor.  

Ah so now testosterone is now your excuse lol

Have you seen him regret what he said?

You and others claimed these kids did nothing wrong and as seen, some of them certainly did

Which adds further weight to the fact that the claims from Nathan were true

You cannot seem to stomch all this new information which is making your defense of little brats redundent

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:24 pm

I wonder if any of those 16 year old boys got their hands on some beer or devil's lettuce?

Fucking out of control reprobates.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:24 pm

Maddog wrote:I wonder if any of those 16 year old boys got their hands on some beer or devil's lettuce?

Fucking out of control reprobates.

I wonder if you start to man up and stop making excuses for the actions of some of these teens?

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:26 pm

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:A 16 year old boy yelled something stupid. He will grow to regret some of the dumb things he said and did while fueled by more testosterone than common sense.  

We all do, with the exception of St Thor.  

Ah so now testosterone is now your excuse lol

Have you seen him regret what he said?

You and others claimed these kids did nothing wrong and as seen, some of them certainly did

Which adds further weight to the fact that the claims from Nathan were true

You cannot seem to stomch all this new information which is making your defense of little brats redundent

These kids hurt no one. They acted as mature as the dingbat black Israelites and the drum beater.

And we are talking about over 100 kids and you are judging all of them in the actions of handful of dumb kids.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:28 pm

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:I wonder if any of those 16 year old boys got their hands on some beer or devil's lettuce?

Fucking out of control reprobates.

I wonder if you start to man up and stop making excuses for the actions of some of these teens?

I wonder if you're going to stop being a whiney ass drama queen?

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:29 pm

Maddog wrote:
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Ah so now testosterone is now your excuse lol

Have you seen him regret what he said?

You and others claimed these kids did nothing wrong and as seen, some of them certainly did

Which adds further weight to the fact that the claims from Nathan were true

You cannot seem to stomch all this new information which is making your defense of little brats redundent

These kids hurt no one.  They acted as mature as the dingbat black Israelites and the drum beater.

And we are talking about over 100 kids and you are judging all of them in the actions of handful of dumb kids.  


So you agree they acted with disrespect and mocking as the Black supremacists

Then as school kids representing a School, they should face consequences for their actions

Its as simple as that

I am not judging all of them and have statd those responsible should face the consequences

How is that blaming them all?

Listen boy, you need to man up and stop demenaing a great man who looks to protect the view lands that the indiegenous now has


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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:30 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

I wonder if you start to man up and stop making excuses for the actions of some of these teens?

I wonder if you're going to stop being a whiney ass drama queen?  

lol so being critical of you makes me a drama queen

ha ha
I am going to cotinually and easily take you to task for your blatant stupidity here

Like I said you need to man up mate

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:33 pm

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I wonder if you're going to stop being a whiney ass drama queen?  

lol so being critical of you makes me a drama queen

ha ha
I am going to cotinually and easily take you to task for your blatant stupidity here

Like I said you need to man up mate

Yeah, I heard you the last time. I'll give your request all the consideration it deserves. Cool

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:35 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

lol so being critical of you makes me a drama queen

ha ha
I am going to cotinually and easily take you to task for your blatant stupidity here

Like I said you need to man up mate

Yeah,  I heard you the last time.  I'll give your request all the consideration it deserves.  Cool

lol I very much doubt it

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Post by phildidge on Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:40 am

Amidst all the ref-working, bad faith arguments, false equivalencies, and targeted attacks on reporters by the far right since videos showing a group of teens from Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky hooting, jeering, and mocking a Native American elder were made public, one piece of evidence can’t be hand-waved away or pettifogged until the truth is unrecognizable: the Tomahawk Chop.

In multiple videos, the students—some of whom, prior to gathering at the Lincoln Memorial, were allegedly howling “MAGA!” at random female passers-by—can be seen engaging in the familiar chant, bringing their arm downward as if wielding a tomahawk while belting out a crude version of traditional Native American songs. Fans of the Atlanta Braves, Kansas City Chiefs, Florida State University, and numerous high schools with Native American mascots have been chopping away for decades. But make no mistake: The chant in and of itself is considered a slur by Native Americans and advocacy groups have plaintively asked sports teams to stop rubber-stamping this behavior since it first gained prominence.

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The Daily Beast contacted representatives of three pro teams and FSU to see if they cared to comment now that the chant is openly being used to taunt and ridicule an indigenous person, or whether they intended to discourage their fans from doing so going forward. No American teams responded prior to publication. A spokesman for the Exeter Chiefs, an English pro rugby team that has adopted the Tomahawk Chop, said via email: “Exeter Rugby Club have no comment to make on this matter.”

Amanda Blackhorse, a member of the Diné tribe and founder of the group Arizona To Rally Against Native Mascots, saw the silence by the aforementioned teams as both predictable and deafening. “They need to be called out,” she said when reached by phone.

Blackhorse is all-too-familiar with the struggle to get pro teams with Native mascots to actually listen to indigenous people. For over 10 years, Blackhorse spearheaded a lawsuit in an attempt to force the Washington Redskins to ditch their racist slur of a nickname. (Initially, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office agreed, removing the team’s trademark protections, but the Supreme Court overturned the decision in 2017.)

She’d spent the weekend in Washington, D.C. participating in the Indigenous Peoples March, calling for action on a slew of issues pertaining to Native Americans—though she was not present when Nathan Phillips, a 64-year-old Vietnam-era veteran and elder, says he tried to diffuse the tension between the Covington Catholic students and the Black Hebrew Israelites. True to form, the Black Hebrew Israelites were spewing their own particular toxic mix of conspiracy theories and prejudiced nonsense.

The irony, though, was striking to Blackhorse. That their protest was held “in a place where the team is called literally a racial slur, and we’re there, asking for visibility when we’re really not visible,” she said, “It just reiterates how much we are discounted.”

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Post by Guest on Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:54 am




interesting with Joe Rogan


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Post by Guest on Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:25 pm

Thor wrote:I mean its astounding how some people seem to be in denial here

There is countless articles on this incident and in just about every single news media article they all share the same conclusion

That the kids were "mocking"

''After all, a smirk from an arrogant young college student is not a thing to be taken lightly. A smirk could very quickly evolve into a smug chuckle, which could then transform into a mocking remark and then where will we be?

Nazi Germany, that’s where.''



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Post by phildidge on Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:33 pm

gelico wrote:
Thor wrote:I mean its astounding how some people seem to be in denial here

There is countless articles on this incident and in just about every single news media article they all share the same conclusion

That the kids were "mocking"

''After all, a smirk from an arrogant young college student is not a thing to be taken lightly. A smirk could very quickly evolve into a smug chuckle, which could then transform into a mocking remark and then where will we be?

Nazi Germany, that’s where.''



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Why does everyone concentrate on this kid as their poster boy with all of this?

Ignoring the blantant fact other kids certainly did mock and laugh at Nathan

Does the claim around one kid, now excuse how others acted gelico?

Anyway, I have an early start tomorrow

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