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Post by phildidge on Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:33 pm

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Nathan Phillips, Omaha, is a Vietnam Veteran who hosts a sacred pipe ceremony at Arlington, was taunted in D.C.

Native Twitter has gone ablaze as a Native American elder singing the AIM Song in Washington DC during the Indigenous Peoples March was ridiculed, taunted and mocked by a group of non-Native youth.

The video, which was posted by YouTube account holder KC NOLAND, was also screen captured and shared on other social media accounts with views shortly gaining tens of thousands of views.

The elder is Nathan Phillips, an Omaha elder who is also a Vietnam Veteran and former director of the Native Youth Alliance. He is also a keeper of a sacred pipe and holds an annual ceremony honoring Native American veterans in the Arlington National Cemetery.




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What a bunch of uneducated ingrate little shits.

If there was ever an example of what is wrong in the US today, it was the disrespectful actions of this vile little scumbags

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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:36 am

Maddog wrote:I Failed the Covington Catholic Test

Next time there’s a viral story, I’ll wait for more facts to emerge.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/julie-irwin-zimmerman-i-failed-covington-catholic-test/580897/?fbclid=IwAR3HRLnz5TpOqbXJd44IJPy207rwAZ4BJ_Yi0vm4NkbH2LIQ-JpAoFWugUo


Thankfully, there are more folks coming forward and this "incident" will soon fade into obscurity.


an interesting article, reasoned and balanced with common sense

she learnt a lesson from it

all good

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:37 am




Any idea what they are saying here?

Maybe its recipe for a ham sandwich.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:38 am

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

Yes he claims that, others claim different

Of course they are going to claim  otherwise through damage limitation

People clearly see in the video people mocking the Indian

How is he did not see that or mention  that?

Because his letter of defense was staged managed by clearly his parents or others.

I have no doubt some of those Trump supporting kids said some of the things claimed

The kid may not of heard them, which is possible with so many people and so much noise

Tha again does not mean it did not hapen and again we see the same problem

A subconcious racial bias

Believe the white kid but not the native Indian

Why not believe the white kid? He just stood there and minded his business. Who was the dumb fuck that thought he needed to beat a drum in his face?

I have already said I am not discounting parts of his story and believe the kid may well believe what he says.

He may not have heard anything wrong, which could be true, that does not mean others did not say abusive things

Do you understand that

What is clear is that kid did smirk at Nathan and a view times

He claimed it was only once

You can see that is a fib to say once

He does not even mention the mocking dances of the Indians. Again he may well not of seen, but they are there on video

So the kid could well be genuine, but many facts remain. He was at an area which was for another march and again the school will ask him, why he never got out of the way of both the Black supreamcists and Nathan

So unlike you I am open to the kid telling the truth, but again that kid even says he cannot speak for everyone or have heard or seen everything

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:40 am

Maddog wrote:


Any idea what they are saying here?

Maybe its recipe for a ham sandwich.  

You see now I understand where the kids getting the mocking from

We see this now from yourself to the very peoples that your ancestors butchered, ethnically cleansed and you think this is a joke with their music Talke about cultural ignorance

Thanks for proving what is actually wrong and it is coming from generation  to generation of white Americans with people with a subconcious racist mindset like yourself

I have not sudied Native Indian music, but would love to and show the meanings behind this

basically because I have qualifications in music

I doubt you do

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:41 am

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Why not believe the white kid? He just stood there and minded his business. Who was the dumb fuck that thought he needed to beat a drum in his face?

I have already said I am not discounting parts of his story and believe the kid may well believe what he says.

He may not have heard anything wrong, which could be true, that does not mean others did not say abusive things

Do you understand that

What is clear is that kid did smirk at Nathan and a view times

He claimed it was only once

You can see that is a fib to say once

He does not even mention the mocking dances of the Indians. Again he may well not of seen, but they are there on video

So the kid could well be genuine, but many facts remain. He was at an area which was for another march and again the school will ask him, why he never got out of the way of both the Black supreamcists and Nathan

So unlike you I am open to the kid telling the truth, but again  that kid even says he cannot speak for everyone or have heard or seen everything

The kid bowed up to him. He didn't get into the old mans space, but sent a very clear message. "I may be a kid, but I'm not backing up. Go around me, or go through if you want."

Are you a male?

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:43 am

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

I have already said I am not discounting parts of his story and believe the kid may well believe what he says.

He may not have heard anything wrong, which could be true, that does not mean others did not say abusive things

Do you understand that

What is clear is that kid did smirk at Nathan and a view times

He claimed it was only once

You can see that is a fib to say once

He does not even mention the mocking dances of the Indians. Again he may well not of seen, but they are there on video

So the kid could well be genuine, but many facts remain. He was at an area which was for another march and again the school will ask him, why he never got out of the way of both the Black supreamcists and Nathan

So unlike you I am open to the kid telling the truth, but again  that kid even says he cannot speak for everyone or have heard or seen everything

The kid bowed up to him. He didn't get into the old mans space, but sent a very clear message. "I may be a kid, but I'm not backing up. Go around me, or go through if you want."

Are you a male?

He was surrounded at this point aqnd move to one side where the kid was

Yes i am male thanks, but was also taught as a male to respect my elders

What were you taught to do, mock them?

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:45 am

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:


Any idea what they are saying here?

Maybe its recipe for a ham sandwich.  

You see now I understand where the kids getting the mocking from

We see this now from yourself to the very peoples that your ancestors butchered, ethnically cleansed and you think this is a joke with their music Talke about cultural ignorance

Thanks for proving what is actually wrong and it is coming from generation  to generation of white Americans with people with a subconcious racist mindset like yourself

I have not sudied Native Indian music, but would love to and show the meanings behind this

basically because I have qualifications in music

I doubt you do

Nobody knew what that drum beat meant. That's my point. It was a complete waste of time.

And quit calling me a racist. You're embarrassing yourself. I think the Indian was a dick, but it's because he was picking on a child, not because of his ethnicity. Indians can lie. They can be dicks, and I can call them out. That's called treating everyone the same and I don't care if you don't approve of me doing that.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:46 am

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:

The kid bowed up to him. He didn't get into the old mans space, but sent a very clear message. "I may be a kid, but I'm not backing up. Go around me, or go through if you want."

Are you a male?

He was surrounded at this point aqnd move to one side where the kid was

Yes i am male thanks, but was also taught as a male to respect my elders

What were you taught to do, mock them?

Sounds like you were taught to pick on children. tongue

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:47 am

How long have you been incapable of changing your mind?

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:48 am

gelico wrote:
Maddog wrote:I Failed the Covington Catholic Test

Next time there’s a viral story, I’ll wait for more facts to emerge.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/julie-irwin-zimmerman-i-failed-covington-catholic-test/580897/?fbclid=IwAR3HRLnz5TpOqbXJd44IJPy207rwAZ4BJ_Yi0vm4NkbH2LIQ-JpAoFWugUo


Thankfully, there are more folks coming forward and this "incident" will soon fade into obscurity.


an interesting article, reasoned and balanced with common sense

she learnt a lesson from it

all good

She's obviously a racist. tongue

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:49 am

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

You see now I understand where the kids getting the mocking from

We see this now from yourself to the very peoples that your ancestors butchered, ethnically cleansed and you think this is a joke with their music Talke about cultural ignorance

Thanks for proving what is actually wrong and it is coming from generation  to generation of white Americans with people with a subconcious racist mindset like yourself

I have not sudied Native Indian music, but would love to and show the meanings behind this

basically because I have qualifications in music

I doubt you do

Nobody knew what that drum beat meant. That's my point. It was a complete waste of time.

And quit calling me a racist. You're embarrassing yourself. I think the Indian was a dick, but it's because he was picking on a child, not because of his ethnicity. Indians can lie. They can be dicks, and I can call them out. That's called treating everyone the same and I don't care if you don't approve of me doing that.  

Of course they did not know this traditional song, which is not just a drum beat

It shows the lack of education in American schools, of the history of the native American peoples

I never called you a racist,. as do you know what subconscious means?

Again another example of your ignorance and lack of understanding it seems

I am saying that through years of hate and supression of peoples had led to this subconcious racism being within people and they do not even and understand and know this to be true. I mean for you to claim he is picking on a child singing a traditional song, shows how warped, your mindset is

So that is simple being critical of you to actually start taking a long view of yourself, which it  seems you are afraid to do

I know you do not care, which is where the problem is.

In fact you embarressed yourself with an ignorance on Music, traditonal native indian culture and their music

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:55 am



Fast forward to the 45 second mark or so. Tell if anything on this video from 2012 looks familiar.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:56 am

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Nobody knew what that drum beat meant. That's my point. It was a complete waste of time.

And quit calling me a racist. You're embarrassing yourself. I think the Indian was a dick, but it's because he was picking on a child, not because of his ethnicity. Indians can lie. They can be dicks, and I can call them out. That's called treating everyone the same and I don't care if you don't approve of me doing that.  

Of course they did not know this traditional song, which is not just a drum beat

It shows the lack of education in American schools, of the history of the native American peoples

I never called you a racist,. as do you know what subconscious means?

Again another example of your ignorance and lack of understanding it seems

I am saying that through years of hate and supression of peoples had led to this subconcious racism being within people and they do not even and understand and know this to be true. I mean for you to claim he is picking on a child singing a traditional song, shows how warped, your mindset is

So that is simple being critical of you to actually start taking a long view of yourself, which it  seems you are afraid to do

I know you do not care, which is where the problem is.

In fact you embarressed yourself with an ignorance on Music, traditonal native indian culture and their music
Yeah. I don't have a clue about native music. If someone wants to converse with me, it's going to have to be in English, not drum beat.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:57 am

Thor wrote:PICTURED: Kentucky students from the same Catholic high school as the teens who taunted a Native American man were allowed to don BLACKFACE at their sports events - and openly goaded African American players

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6616793/Kentucky-Catholic-high-school-Lincoln-Memorial-clash-allowed-blackface-pep-rallies.html

So now Maddog is attempting to deny this

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:58 am

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

Of course they did not know this traditional song, which is not just a drum beat

It shows the lack of education in American schools, of the history of the native American peoples

I never called you a racist,. as do you know what subconscious means?

Again another example of your ignorance and lack of understanding it seems

I am saying that through years of hate and supression of peoples had led to this subconcious racism being within people and they do not even and understand and know this to be true. I mean for you to claim he is picking on a child singing a traditional song, shows how warped, your mindset is

So that is simple being critical of you to actually start taking a long view of yourself, which it  seems you are afraid to do

I know you do not care, which is where the problem is.

In fact you embarressed yourself with an ignorance on Music, traditonal native indian culture and their music
Yeah. I don't have a clue about native music. If someone wants to converse with me, it's going to have to be in English, not drum beat.

Wow

In English?

What do you do with people who are deaf then?

I guess you have never tried to engage anyone in another language

He was not even trying to converse with people, but defuse a potential volatile situation with music a traditional song


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Did the white American kids go aggressively over into the face of the native Americans...?


Or did the native Americans go aggressively over into the face of the white American kids...?



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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:00 am

Thor wrote:
Thor wrote:PICTURED: Kentucky students from the same Catholic high school as the teens who taunted a Native American man were allowed to don BLACKFACE at their sports events - and openly goaded African American players

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6616793/Kentucky-Catholic-high-school-Lincoln-Memorial-clash-allowed-blackface-pep-rallies.html

So now Maddog is attempting to deny this

Yup. in 2012 they did that. It wasn't black face but they stopped it because it's easier than trying to explain what black out means.

They are there in the video that I posted.

Give it a look, you might learn something.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:01 am

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

So now Maddog is attempting to deny this

Yup. in 2012 they did that. It wasn't black face but they stopped it because it's easier than trying to explain what black out means.

They are there in the video that I posted.

Give it a look, you might learn something.

Its certainly blackface, and that is just an exmaple of them trying to poorly claim otherwise and again you defend those with a view to be racist

wow again

Well considering your knowledge of your own country and its people is very poor. May I suggest you learn that first and why again what those kids did at the event os wrong

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:02 am

Thor wrote:
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Yeah. I don't have a clue about native music. If someone wants to converse with me, it's going to have to be in English, not drum beat.

Wow

In English?

What do you do with people who are deaf then?

I guess you have never tried to engage anyone in another language

He was not even trying to converse with people, but defuse a potential volatile situation with music a traditional song

I speak English very slowly and face them so they can read my lips.

Why would beating a fucking drum diffuse a situation?

Is drum beating the international signal of diffusing?

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:03 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Did the white American kids go aggressively over into the face of the native Americans...?


Or did the native Americans go aggressively over into the face of the white American kids...?



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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:04 am

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Yup. in 2012 they did that. It wasn't black face but they stopped it because it's easier than trying to explain what black out means.

They are there in the video that I posted.

Give it a look, you might learn something.

Its certainly blackface, and that is just an exmaple of them trying to poorly claim otherwise and again you defend those with a view to be racist

wow again

Well considering your knowledge of your own country and its people is very poor. May I suggest you learn that first and why again what those kids did at the event os wrong

They painted their bodies black and wore all black.

There was a reason for that.

In any event, that was 7 years ago when these boys were in elementary school. It's no longer done.

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:04 am

Maddog wrote:
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Wow

In English?

What do you do with people who are deaf then?

I guess you have never tried to engage anyone in another language

He was not even trying to converse with people, but defuse a potential volatile situation with music a traditional song

I speak English very slowly and face them so they can read my lips.

Why would beating a fucking drum diffuse a situation?

Is drum beating the international signal of diffusing?  

What if they cannot lip read?

Yet you expect everyone to speak English

wow again

You think music has never been able to soothe and calm people?

Music is certainly recognised scientifically as helping to calm people

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Tommy Monk wrote:
Did the white American kids go aggressively over into the face of the native Americans...?


Or did the native Americans go aggressively over into the face of the white American kids...?



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Tommy Monk wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:
Did the white American kids go aggressively over into the face of the native Americans...?


Or did the native Americans go aggressively over into the face of the white American kids...?



The answer to that is well known.

But if you have a drum, it's OK. You don't understand our laws. Laughing

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Its certainly blackface, and that is just an exmaple of them trying to poorly claim otherwise and again you defend those with a view to be racist

wow again

Well considering your knowledge of your own country and its people is very poor. May I suggest you learn that first and why again what those kids did at the event os wrong

They painted their bodies black and wore all black.

There was a reason for that.

In any event, that was 7 years ago when these boys were in elementary school. It's no longer done.

And why is iot no longer done?

take your time

And this is not the only problems coming to light about the school

I have posted a link earlier

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:06 am

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I speak English very slowly and face them so they can read my lips.

Why would beating a fucking drum diffuse a situation?

Is drum beating the international signal of diffusing?  

What if they cannot lip read?

Yet you expect everyone to speak English

wow again

You think music has never been able to soothe and calm people?

Music is certainly recognised scientifically as helping to calm people

Music can calm people, and agitate people.

I don't expect everyone to speak English. I expect everyone who can speak English to do so, as opposed to beating a fucking drum.

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The answer to that is well known.

But if you have a drum, it's OK. You don't understand our laws.  Laughing  

So one man, a pensioner with about 3 friends singing a traditional song is agressive to Tommy, where there is around 100 17 year olds. When the white kids surronded the pensioner mocking him

Its so comical how bad the subconcious racist mind of people are

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They painted their bodies black and wore all black.

There was a reason for that.

In any event, that was 7 years ago when these boys were in elementary school. It's no longer done.

And why is iot no longer done?

take your time

And this is not the only problems coming to light about the school

I have posted a link earlier

I told you why, but I'll repeat it. It's going to be misconstrued and in this day and age is best to just stop the "blackout the opposition" tradition.

The hakas seem to be still in vogue though. Razz

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:09 am

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

What if they cannot lip read?

Yet you expect everyone to speak English

wow again

You think music has never been able to soothe and calm people?

Music is certainly recognised scientifically as helping to calm people

Music can calm people, and agitate people.

I don't expect everyone to speak English. I expect everyone who can speak English to do so, as opposed to beating a fucking drum.  

If it agitates you then the problem is wihin you and not the music

So you expect a native American Indian to speak English, even though you are completely ignorant of his traditinonal language

wow again

He was singing a traditional son, you ignorameous

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The answer to that is well known.

But if you have a drum, it's OK. You don't understand our laws.  Laughing  

So one man, a pensioner with about 3 friends singing a traditional song is agressive to Tommy, where there is around 100 17 year olds. When the white kids surronded the pensioner mocking him

Its so comical how bad the subconcious racist mind of people are

Yes, it's quite comical. Rolling Eyes

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Thor wrote:

And why is iot no longer done?

take your time

And this is not the only problems coming to light about the school

I have posted a link earlier

I told you why, but I'll repeat it. It's going to be misconstrued and in this day and age is best to just stop the "blackout the opposition" tradition.

The hakas seem to be still in vogue though. Razz

Its showing that its you deluded to again believe kids, showig a clear distain for black people, but its coming out loud and clears your views

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Music can calm people, and agitate people.

I don't expect everyone to speak English. I expect everyone who can speak English to do so, as opposed to beating a fucking drum.  

If it agitates you then the problem is wihin you and not the music

So you expect a native American Indian to speak English, even though you are completely ignorant of his traditinonal language

wow again

He was singing a traditional son, you ignorameous

All of their songs are traditional. Doesn't mean anyone besides someone from that tribe would have a clue what it meant.

You don't know what they hell the song meant.

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Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

So one man, a pensioner with about 3 friends singing a traditional song is agressive to Tommy, where there is around 100 17 year olds. When the white kids surronded the pensioner mocking him

Its so comical how bad the subconcious racist mind of people are

Yes, it's quite comical. Rolling Eyes
Well it is very comical how you and others think a pensioner, singing a traditonal song surrounded by 17 year olds is aggressive

Again a glowing example of this subconscious racism

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I told you why, but I'll repeat it. It's going to be misconstrued and in this day and age is best to just stop the "blackout the opposition" tradition.

The hakas seem to be still in vogue though. Razz

Its showing that its you deluded to again believe kids, showig a clear distain for black people, but its coming out loud and clears your views

I don't have a disdain for black people. Arrogant Brits maybe.

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If it agitates you then the problem is wihin you and not the music

So you expect a native American Indian to speak English, even though you are completely ignorant of his traditinonal language

wow again

He was singing a traditional son, you ignorameous

All of their songs are traditional. Doesn't mean anyone besides someone from that tribe would have a clue what it meant.

You don't know what they hell the song meant.

Which shows again the failing of your education system does it not?

I mean you were ignorant of this

These kids were ignorant of this

So again, I suggest you go and study at night college and stop being so ignorant of cultures of the first peoples in the nation you live

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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:14 am

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Its showing that its you deluded to again believe kids, showig a clear distain for black people, but its coming out loud and clears your views

I don't have a disdain for black people. Arrogant Brits maybe.

Good night sunshine. Cool  

So we see I am right by a subconscious racism that you have Laughing

You certainly seem to have a distain for native Indian people, their culture and music


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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:18 am

The white kids were standing in their own space... not aggressively moving towards anyone...


They were subjected to an aggressive and unprovoked approach from the native Americans... who started getting right in their faces and banging a drum and singing at them...


The white American kids stood their ground and didn't react in any way that was violent or aggressive...






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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:21 am

Tommy Monk wrote:The white kids were standing in their own space... not aggressively moving towards anyone...


They were subjected to an aggressive and unprovoked approach from the native Americans... who started getting right in their faces and banging a drum and singing at them...


The white American kids stood their ground and didn't react in any way that was violent or aggressive...






The lincoln Memorial was part of the Native march

The kids were there over an hour to wait for a bus, they could have moved to any part of the large area here

The kids showed a complete lack of disrespect

As did the Black supremacists

There was a hundred kids yelling, singing and some mocking with abuse to a pensioner singing

Hence why the school will clearly take to task the kids, for showing zero respect and showing up the school

If you think that is how kids should act when out of school, whilst respresenting that school, then you clearly never learnt any respect yourself Tommy

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The whole story: Before and after video of Nathan Phillips, #MAGAyouth and more

https://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/news/the-whole-story-before-and-after-video-of-nathan-phillips-magayouth-and-more-_O6lTVo8M0muOgi6Foug-w/


I suggest people watch the first of 4 videos and then tell me the kids were not acting up? Then watch all of the rest

They were cerainly being confrontational back to the Black supremacists

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/dont-doubt-what-you-saw-with-your-own-eyes-1831931203

And this article hits the nail on the head. There is no exucse of how the Kids acted around Nathan

Nathan in the last viodeo calls everyone relatives, showing again he is a man of peace

Even those posters saw what was wrong when they first saw, but as seen now defend them based off what of Black supremacists did.

If teachers had of been there, they would have moved their kids away from this. Instead it cleary looks to me, the tension and confrontation is building up. In fact a teacher did later come and did what should have happened before, moved them on, that is in the third video

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:27 am

Thor wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:The white kids were standing in their own space... not aggressively moving towards anyone...


They were subjected to an aggressive and unprovoked approach from the native Americans... who started getting right in their faces and banging a drum and singing at them...


The white American kids stood their ground and didn't react in any way that was violent or aggressive...






The lincoln Memorial was part of the Native march

The kids were there over an hour to wait for a bus, they could have moved to any part of the large area here

The kids showed a complete lack of disrespect

As did the Black supremacists

There was a hundred kids yelling, singing and some mocking with abuse to a pensioner singing

Hence why the school will clearly take to task the kids, for showing zero respect and showing up the school

If you think that is how kids should act when out of school, whilst respresenting that school, then you clearly never learnt any respect yourself Tommy


Fuk off didge...


They were there first... exercising their right to freedom of assembly and free speech under the US constitution 1st amendment... and were approached aggressively by others...


Not the other way round...


Maybe you could explain what laws were broken, and by who, and when...?


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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:34 am

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The lincoln Memorial was part of the Native march

The kids were there over an hour to wait for a bus, they could have moved to any part of the large area here

The kids showed a complete lack of disrespect

As did the Black supremacists

There was a hundred kids yelling, singing and some mocking with abuse to a pensioner singing

Hence why the school will clearly take to task the kids, for showing zero respect and showing up the school

If you think that is how kids should act when out of school, whilst respresenting that school, then you clearly never learnt any respect yourself Tommy


Fuk off didge...  
They were there first... exercising their right to freedom of assembly and free speech under the US constitution 1st amendment... and were approached aggressively by others...  
Not the other way round...
Maybe you could explain what laws were broken, and by who, and when...?


No I am not going to fuck off Tommy

As again  you are clueless here

Actually the Native Americans were there first as a people in the US and on this day with the march as it was part of their march. The first videos of this whole event shows the native indians being abused by the Black supremacists calling them savages and then after this some of these kids start showing up. I suggest you watch the 2 hour video of this which shows the natives were here already and the kids later turned up

They reacted as no kids of a school should act. They acted poorly in retaliation, which no school would either encourage and would always condemn. They would tell them to move away and not get involved and those kids got involved

Who says any laws were broken, when this is about kids showing respect and not racially mocking native indians

Now in no way were the native Amercians agressive to the 100 17 year olds, they though surrounded him and mocked him racially. Some were good though that is for sure. but that does not excuse the ones that acted poor.

Now if you think surrounding someone this way is okay, then its you that is cluelsss

I suugest you watch the latest video's I showed on the link

It show the Black supremacists in the wrong and there is no excuse for them

It shows the 17 year olds in the wrong and there is no excuse for them

It shows Nathan trying to defuse this and call all of them his relatives

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Post by Tommy Monk on Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:43 am

So... the white American kids were standing together in a group... lawful assembly under the US constitution 1st amendment... and didn't aggressively approach anyone...


And they didn't break any laws...


But you think that they were in the wrong...?



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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:48 am

Tommy Monk wrote:So... the white American kids were standing together in a group... lawful assembly under the US constitution 1st amendment... and didn't aggressively approach anyone...
And they didn't break any laws...
But you think that they were in the wrong...?



Yes they are in the wrong for racially mock a native american Indian

Just as i think the Black supreamcists are wrong for racially abusing the kids

See how that works?

But unlike the rest here, where it is a racial subconscious bias

You are simple racially biased, knowingly so, which is a sad reality

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How did they racially mock anyone...!?



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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:50 am

Thor wrote:The whole story: Before and after video of Nathan Phillips, #MAGAyouth and more

https://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/news/the-whole-story-before-and-after-video-of-nathan-phillips-magayouth-and-more-_O6lTVo8M0muOgi6Foug-w/


I suggest people watch the first of 4 videos and then tell me the kids were not acting up? Then watch all of the rest

They were cerainly being confrontational back to the Black supremacists

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/dont-doubt-what-you-saw-with-your-own-eyes-1831931203

And this article hits the nail on the head. There is no exucse of how the Kids acted around Nathan

Nathan in the last viodeo calls everyone relatives, showing again he is a man of peace

Even those posters saw what was wrong when they first saw, but as seen now defend them based off what of Black supremacists did.

If teachers had of been there, they would have moved their kids away from this. Instead it cleary looks to me, the tension and confrontation is building up. In fact a teacher did later come and did what should have happened before, moved them on, that is in the third video

I suggest you read and watch the videos on the first link Tommy

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So there was a group of blacks throwing abuse at the white kids... and the native Americans thought it was a good idea to aggressively approach the white kids and bang a drum in their faces... but it was the white kids who were in the wrong...!?



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While we are at it, we probably should ban all of those silly red assault hats.  For the virtue signalers.   


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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:16 pm

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All of their songs are traditional. Doesn't mean anyone besides someone from that tribe would have a clue what it meant.

You don't know what they hell the song meant.

Which shows again the failing of your education system does it not?

I mean you were ignorant of this

These kids were ignorant of this

So again, I suggest you go and study at night college and stop being so ignorant of cultures of the first peoples in the nation you live


I suggest people not beat drums as an attempt to make a message.  I don't care if they are Native  American,  Zulu  or Norwegian Vikings.

You want to give this Native a pass based on his ethnicity. I think we was a dumbass for doing what he did and the only reason he selected those kids to harass was because of their red hats.  He prejudged them based on an article of clothing while  not judging the actual racists there that day.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:17 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

How did they racially mock anyone...!?




they actually didn't, Tommy

some black Israellites were throwing abuse constantly, not only at the kids but at natives as well. native guy nathan phillips walks right up to the kids, past the black guys throwing abuse at the kids and into the group of them all and stood there banging a drum 3 inches from that kids face and chanting right at him. there was no smile from him, no conversation, no engagement except this banging.

as you can see, the kids were bemused but loving it, then starting joining in, dancing, cheering, smiling, laughing and clearly having a great time.

no one got nasty, no one shouted anything - no threat, nada

strange how a happy expression and a smile and kids having harmless fun can suddenly turn into a menacing mob filled with hatred who were taunting and mocking and allegedly wanting to rip the native guy apart.

beware face crimes #1984

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gelico wrote:strange how a happy expression and a smile and kids having harmless fun can suddenly turn into a menacing mob filled with hatred who were taunting and mocking and allegedly wanting to rip the native guy apart.

Don't go overboard, geli.  That was a mocking smile, meant to taunt.

The plain fact is that any expression is permissible in a demonstration, as long as it is non-violent.  (That's why Charlottesville was unacceptable.)  But whether it's sneers or drums, on-lookers will judge you and assign a meaning to your antics.

Like George Zimmerman, Mr. Sandmann will probably have a hard time getting a job or other placement as a result of his public personality assignment, what with that mocking smile.  I'll bet he grows a beard and ditches that hat when he gets to college.

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