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Post by phildidge on Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:26 am







Its really piss poor when people lie over the famine

https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/did-churchill-cause-the-bengal-famine/

Even more priceless, when he is clearly a marxist, which said beliefs are responsible for morer deaths in the 20th century than anything else and he does not condemn that. Talk about double standards

I do not doubt that Churchill held racist views, but again, does that deny him being classed as a great leader?

Be interested to what people think?

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Post by Eilzel on Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:00 am

People have to be judged according to their time. I've no doubt Churchill held views I'd find abhorrent; so would Attlee, Nelson, Drake and many another great figure in British history.

But of course quoting him isn't racist, as it wouldn't be to quote any other great figure whose main achievements were not persecution of others.

People need to see people in the contextof their time. Otherwise every person alive today risks being the villain of tomorrow.

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Post by phildidge on Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:04 am

Eilzel wrote:People have to be judged according to their time. I've no doubt Churchill held views I'd find abhorrent; so would Attlee, Nelson, Drake and many another great figure in British history.

But of course quoting him isn't racist, as it wouldn't be to quote any other great figure whose main achievements were not persecution of others.

People need to see people in the contextof their time. Otherwise every person alive today risks being the villain of tomorrow.


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Post by nicko on Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:13 am

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Post by Syl on Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:41 pm

Eilzel wrote:People have to be judged according to their time. I've no doubt Churchill held views I'd find abhorrent; so would Attlee, Nelson, Drake and many another great figure in British history.

But of course quoting him isn't racist, as it wouldn't be to quote any other great figure whose main achievements were not persecution of others.

People need to see people in the contextof their time. Otherwise every person alive today risks being the villain of tomorrow.

Well put Eilzel, you said what I think, only you said it in fewer words. Cool

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Post by Vintage on Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:36 pm

Well said Eilzel, said it all really.
Everyone can have an opinion, so in my opinion this professor has a very closed mind and a lack of understanding, something an academic shouldn't have.

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Post by Maddog on Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:55 pm

Syl wrote:
Eilzel wrote:People have to be judged according to their time. I've no doubt Churchill held views I'd find abhorrent; so would Attlee, Nelson, Drake and many another great figure in British history.

But of course quoting him isn't racist, as it wouldn't be to quote any other great figure whose main achievements were not persecution of others.

People need to see people in the contextof their time. Otherwise every person alive today risks being the villain of tomorrow.

Well put Eilzel, you said what I think, only you said it in fewer words. Cool

Maybe his brevity will catch on around here?

I know some English dude said it was the soul of wit. tongue

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Post by Syl on Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:05 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

Well put Eilzel, you said what I think, only you said it in fewer words. Cool

Maybe his brevity will catch on around here?

I know some English dude said it was the soul of wit. tongue  

He did, but even he tended to often use 10 words when one would have done. study



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Post by Vintage on Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:55 pm

Ghengis Khan had some pretty good quotes, he wasn't white of course but I wonder how this Professor would see them.

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Post by phildidge on Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:06 pm

Vintage wrote:Ghengis Khan had some pretty good quotes, he wasn't white of course but I wonder how this Professor would see them.

Indeed. Shall we redfine "Alexander the Great" as Alexander the murderer?

Or shall we look at his achievements, when he was the first multicuturalist?

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Post by Ben Reilly on Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:07 pm

I thought the whole point in quoting someone was that they put the idea really well. It should be about the message, not about who said it.

Pretty much every founding father of America owned slaves, and they wrote the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. constitution - still fairly widely quoted Smile

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Post by eddie on Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:08 pm

I think people should stop being offended by every single thing.

It’s getting boringly repetitive and quite frankly, stops people being themselves.

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Post by phildidge on Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:11 pm

eddie wrote:I think people should stop being offended by every single thing.  

It’s getting boringly repetitive and quite frankly, stops people being themselves.

I am sorry, but I am offended, by your use of the word offended and now feel offended and need help not being offended over you being offensive.

Sorry, I got lost in the middle of that, who exactly was offended here?

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Post by Jules on Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:25 pm

Churchill. American mum, British dad. 

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Post by eddie on Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:50 pm

Thor wrote:
eddie wrote:I think people should stop being offended by every single thing.  

It’s getting boringly repetitive and quite frankly, stops people being themselves.

I am sorry, but I am offended, by your use of the word offended and now feel offended and need help not being offended over you being offensive.

Sorry, I got lost in the middle of that, who exactly was offended here?

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Hahahahahaha nice. Cool

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Post by 'Wolfie on Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:30 am

study

Re:  'Professor' Snowflake in the O/P  :

IF he is genuinely "offended" by everything that somebody said back somewhen...

Maybe he should just piss off, go away and smell the roses, and 'grow a pair' while he's at it..

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Post by Eilzel on Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:24 am

Thor wrote:
Eilzel wrote:People have to be judged according to their time. I've no doubt Churchill held views I'd find abhorrent; so would Attlee, Nelson, Drake and many another great figure in British history.

But of course quoting him isn't racist, as it wouldn't be to quote any other great figure whose main achievements were not persecution of others.

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