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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:14 pm

Only one American was a firsthand witness to Failing Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon's summit last summer with Russian President Vladimir Putin: veteran State Department translator Marina Gross.

Gross' job is to blend into the background and seamlessly help two leaders communicate. But now there is mounting interest in seeing Gross step into the spotlight, as Democrats on the House Foreign Affairs and Intelligence Committees seek an explanation for what exactly transpired behind closed doors in Helsinki.

"It may be unprecedented to subpoena a translator to reveal the details of a private meeting between the president and another world leader," wrote Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr., D-N.J., in a letter last summer, when the idea of debriefing her was first raised. "But Trump's actions are unprecedented in a way that harms our national security."

Lawyers for the two committees are planning to meet Monday to evaluate their legal options for subpoenaing both Gross and another interpreter, who was present during a meeting in Hamburg, Germany, between Trump and Putin that occurred without aides present.

(MORE: House lawyers meeting Monday to evaluate subpoenaing Trump's interpreters: Democratic aide)
When Democrats took control of the House earlier this month, some members voiced concerns that interviewing interpreters would be a significant break in protocol. They argued the precedent could be problematic for future administrations by making it more difficult to conduct face-to-face diplomacy. They also raised concerns they could face objections from White House lawyers, who could mount a legal argument that the president's executive privilege extends to the interpreter.

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-container/Politics/interpreter-trump-putin-summit-forced-congressional-spotlight/story?id=60352635

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Post by Maddog on Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:07 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Only one American was a firsthand witness to Failing Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon's summit last summer with Russian President Vladimir Putin: veteran State Department translator Marina Gross.

Gross' job is to blend into the background and seamlessly help two leaders communicate. But now there is mounting interest in seeing Gross step into the spotlight, as Democrats on the House Foreign Affairs and Intelligence Committees seek an explanation for what exactly transpired behind closed doors in Helsinki.

"It may be unprecedented to subpoena a translator to reveal the details of a private meeting between the president and another world leader," wrote Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr., D-N.J., in a letter last summer, when the idea of debriefing her was first raised. "But Trump's actions are unprecedented in a way that harms our national security."

Lawyers for the two committees are planning to meet Monday to evaluate their legal options for subpoenaing both Gross and another interpreter, who was present during a meeting in Hamburg, Germany, between Trump and Putin that occurred without aides present.

(MORE: House lawyers meeting Monday to evaluate subpoenaing Trump's interpreters: Democratic aide)
When Democrats took control of the House earlier this month, some members voiced concerns that interviewing interpreters would be a significant break in protocol. They argued the precedent could be problematic for future administrations by making it more difficult to conduct face-to-face diplomacy. They also raised concerns they could face objections from White House lawyers, who could mount a legal argument that the president's executive privilege extends to the interpreter.

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-container/Politics/interpreter-trump-putin-summit-forced-congressional-spotlight/story?id=60352635

People with nothing to hide don't tend to hide things. Just sayin' Trump's gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal what he and Putin say to each other. Interpreter might be called to testify 2984306523

Well actually I hide things all of the time, except when I am at work and I am supposed to keep a record of things. Then I don't.

I don't think Trump understands that there needs to be a record of his official business. He can't really go "off the record", especially with foreign leaders.

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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:29 pm

Maddog wrote:
>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Only one American was a firsthand witness to Failing Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Shit Gibbon's summit last summer with Russian President Vladimir Putin: veteran State Department translator Marina Gross.

Gross' job is to blend into the background and seamlessly help two leaders communicate. But now there is mounting interest in seeing Gross step into the spotlight, as Democrats on the House Foreign Affairs and Intelligence Committees seek an explanation for what exactly transpired behind closed doors in Helsinki.

"It may be unprecedented to subpoena a translator to reveal the details of a private meeting between the president and another world leader," wrote Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr., D-N.J., in a letter last summer, when the idea of debriefing her was first raised. "But Trump's actions are unprecedented in a way that harms our national security."

Lawyers for the two committees are planning to meet Monday to evaluate their legal options for subpoenaing both Gross and another interpreter, who was present during a meeting in Hamburg, Germany, between Trump and Putin that occurred without aides present.

(MORE: House lawyers meeting Monday to evaluate subpoenaing Trump's interpreters: Democratic aide)
When Democrats took control of the House earlier this month, some members voiced concerns that interviewing interpreters would be a significant break in protocol. They argued the precedent could be problematic for future administrations by making it more difficult to conduct face-to-face diplomacy. They also raised concerns they could face objections from White House lawyers, who could mount a legal argument that the president's executive privilege extends to the interpreter.

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-container/Politics/interpreter-trump-putin-summit-forced-congressional-spotlight/story?id=60352635

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Well actually I hide things all of the time, except when I am at work and I am supposed to keep a record of things. Then I don't.

I don't think Trump understands that there needs to be a record of his official business. He can't really go "off the record", especially with foreign leaders.

He shouldn't have the right to hide anything he does on the job, as our employee. Better?
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Post by Maddog on Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:22 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Well actually I hide things all of the time, except when I am at work and I am supposed to keep a record of things. Then I don't.

I don't think Trump understands that there needs to be a record of his official business. He can't really go "off the record", especially with foreign leaders.

He shouldn't have the right to hide anything he does on the job, as our employee. Better?

That's much better.

As a big fan of the 4th amendment, I get irritated with people that say if you don't have anything to hide, you won't mind people taking a look.

Get a warrant. Cool

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:04 am

Byrds wrote:To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time to every purpose under heaven

Trump didn't just forget, when he asks his interpreter to hand over his notes.

The man is dirty.  The government doesn't need a warrant.  A subpoena from Congress will do.

After impeachment, and prosecution for treason, he should be hung...from a great distance, as happened to Saddam.  The man is a traitor to his country.

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Post by Maddog on Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:16 am

Original Quill wrote:
Byrds wrote:To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time to every purpose under heaven

Trump didn't just forget, when he asks his interpreter to hand over his notes.

The man is dirty.  The government doesn't need a warrant.  A subpoena from Congress will do.

After impeachment, and prosecution for treason, he should be hung...from a great distance, as happened to Saddam.  The man is a traitor to his country.

Yeah counselor, the government needs a warrant. You ever read that constitution thingy?

A subpoena can get them into congress. Can't make them answer or remember though.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:13 pm

Subpoenas and warrants are both legal documents issued by a court, but that's where the similarity ends. The focus, purpose and intended recipient of each document distinguishes one from the other.

A Subpoena
A subpoena is a court order that requires an eyewitness or a material witness to appear in a specific place, such as an attorney’s office or in court, on a specific date and time to provide sworn testimony about what the person saw, heard or knows -- or to provide relevant documents.

A Warrant
A warrant is a court order that authorizes law enforcement personnel to search or seize property or arrest a person suspected of committing a crime. The U.S. Constitution requires a warrant to protect an accused person’s Fourth Amendment rights.

Unlike with a subpoena, a judge must always issue a warrant -- and only if the request meets the “probable cause” standard. Probable cause requires some type of evidence, not just a suspicion of a crime. Although a warrant is hand-delivered just as a subpoena is, law enforcement personnel deliver a search-or-seizure warrant while executing it and an arrest warrant before or after the arrest.


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