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Australia set to Block internet via the secret TPP thanks to Tony Abbot

Post by Guest on Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:48 pm

Abbott's government has confirmed they're getting ready to crack down on internet freedom to comply with the TPP -- including a "three strikes" provision that forces ISPs to monitor and police our activity online.

Tony Abbott's trade minister is about to sign a secret, global pact to allow corporations to sue the Australian government for billions -- just for passing laws to protect our health or the environment. The secret meeting in Singapore is happening this week. Tony Abbott wants us to believe the 12-country Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is all about getting a better deal for ordinary Australians. But the truth is that it could end up being one of the biggest corporate power grabs in a generation. Abbott and his cronies are refusing to make the deal public (although corporate lobbyists seem to be getting the inside track) -- making it hard to know just what's in the TPP....

http://action.sumofus.org/a/australia-tpp/2/2/

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/mixed-feelings-on-promise-of-trade-deal/story-fn3dxiwe-1226818443961

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Post by Beekeeper on Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:36 pm

:D 

THERE'S already a couple of threads up on this 'TPP' treaty topic on here !!!

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AS for the government attempting to block the Internet ~ don't you believe it..

That's a furphy that politicians on both sides have been bringing up for the past decade or more.


Simply proving that both the pollies and the morons writing-up these stories in the press (in this case it's Uncle Rupert's News Corp., again..) know absolutely nothing about the internet..

THEY simply can't "block" the internet in reality, in the ways that the governments and media keeps on suggesting..   cyclops

WITH regard to "SumOfUs" (sumofus.org) ~ it pays to keep in mind that this organisation actually acts as a "clearing house" and noticeboard for various activist and community groups, rather than a single activist group in it's own right ~ so you also have to take note of who is presenting the individual stories. There is often a wide range in the quality and veracity of petitions and reports on groups such as SumOfUs, Care2Causes (one of the slackest in their moderating..), Change.org, and GetUp! (my favourite out of all of the activists 'clearing boards'..) ~ groups that I've been subscribing to for some years now..

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Post by Phoenix on Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:34 pm

Beekeeper wrote::D 

THERE'S already a couple of threads up on this 'TPP' treaty topic on here !!!

**************************************************************

AS for the government attempting to block the Internet ~ don't you believe it..

That's a furphy that politicians on both sides have been bringing up for the past decade or more.


Simply proving that both the pollies and the morons writing-up these stories in the press (in this case it's Uncle Rupert's News Corp., again..) know absolutely nothing about the internet..

THEY simply can't "block" the internet in reality, in the ways that the governments and media keeps on suggesting..   cyclops

WITH regard to "SumOfUs" (sumofus.org) ~ it pays to keep in mind that this organisation actually acts as a "clearing house" and noticeboard for various activist and community groups, rather than a single activist group in it's own right ~ so you also have to take note of who is presenting the individual stories. There is often a wide range in the quality and veracity of petitions and reports on groups such as SumOfUs, Care2Causes (one of the slackest in their moderating..), Change.org, and GetUp! (my favourite out of all of the activists 'clearing boards'..) ~ groups that I've been subscribing to for some years now..

The Chinese manage well enough I do worry about any government taking control. I accept your point that it is relatively easy forsomeone with know how to get around barriers but many don't have that know how.

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:19 pm

@bee
Actaully they are
it will mean if you spend too long on pirate bay your ISP will be forced to send you a warning and if you recieve 3 warning they cut your connection. Additonally Known proxies used for pirating will also be blacklisted.

This is a TRUE attack on feedom as the law will allow them to black list any site and deny people internat access.  Evil or Very Mad  Evil or Very Mad  Evil or Very Mad  Evil or Very Mad 

 pirat  pirat  pirat  pirat  pirat  pirat  pirat  pirat  pirat 
BUT as the Convict Nation we must persist with theft in the face on injustice... really it just mean we will have to hack innocent inviduals computers overseas and open up their connection as a proxy.

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Post by Beekeeper on Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:09 pm

Phoenix wrote:
Beekeeper wrote::D 
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AS for the government attempting to block the Internet ~ don't you believe it..

That's a furphy that politicians on both sides have been bringing up for the past decade or more..........


THEY simply can't "block" the internet in reality, in the ways that the governments and media keeps on suggesting..   cyclops

............................

The Chinese manage well enough I do worry about any government taking control. I accept your point that it is relatively easy forsomeone with know how to get around barriers but many don't have that know how.

Arrow 

THE Chinese government set up their country's "official" national/internal internet network, and they control the "gateway" for all official traffic in an out...  However, they still have pre-existing links direct to some universities, and the separate connections via Hong Kong, and neighbours like Taiwan and Singapore ~ that apparently still allow various 'workarounds', for many Chinese hackers, students and dissidents to gain some access to outside sources.

RUSSIA took the opposite approach to China ~ allowing a free-roaming and open internet service within the country, with several companies offering internet services ~ and THEN relying on a friendly press, and their faithful old state propaganda service, to counter anything that comes via the internet. A lot of Russian newspapers, TV stations, government departments and universities now have an online presence themselves..

AND NOW we also have many other governments sporadically claiming that they want to "censor" the 'net, while many nongs in the USA like to hint that the NSA has "the power" to break the Internet (which they don't, really..)  ~ while the simple TRUTH is that the Internet is now so so widespread and has so many providers and operators involved in it, that NO government or corporation can any longer even hope to have as much influence as some politicians and business moguls dream of.     Suspect

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Post by veya_victaous on Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:40 pm

@bee
on large scale you are correct but I believe this is part of a divide and conquer tactic, they pick off people one by one, before you know it the couple of thousand that would be likely to bypass the system and create an easy to use 'hack' for others to use, are banned from owning a computer.

Tony is just trying to stop all forms of Freedom that may limit the excessive levels of Greed Rupert can indulge in. Like Tonys Motto "Rights should be linked to the size of ones bank account"

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Post by Beekeeper on Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:46 pm

Cool 

ONE salient lesson that a lot of today's "world leaders" and "business tycoons" prefer and choose to ignore, at their own risk ~

KEEP ON hurting and restricting and pushing around enough people for long enough, and it will only take one bullet, knife, arrow or bomb to "fix their wagons"..

For good.

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