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Post by phildidge on Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:33 am

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Initially the left wing activist sought out a 40 year old white man as a suspect. But it turned out the white man was likely a witness to the event and was fleeing for his life. Police eventually arrested a suspect thanks in part to a tip received by Shaun King.

But the social justice activist has now repeatedly pushed false narratives likely creating more harm than good.



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Post by Maddog on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:30 pm

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Your missing the point.  Can an individual with mostly Native blood be a  bad person?

All humans beings are capable of doing rights and wrongs

So why do you center on  Native indians for this?

Gotacha

You just exposed again that subconscious racial bias

I'm not centering on Native Americans. I brought up people of other races too. That's my point. Everyone can be a dick. You don't think Phillips can be a dick because he's Native American. I think he is, in spite of being a native American.

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Post by phildidge on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:31 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

All humans beings are capable of doing rights and wrongs

So why do you center on  Native indians for this?

Gotacha

You just exposed again that subconscious racial bias

I'm not centering on Native Americans. I brought up people of other races too. That's my point. Everyone can be a dick. You don't think Phillips can be a dick because he's Native American. I think he is, in spite of being a native American.  

You said about native american being dicks

All humans can be dicks and yet you bring up Native Americans

I tell you what it tells me, is that you have been triggered by the Conservative media

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Post by Maddog on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:36 pm

Thor wrote:
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I'm not centering on Native Americans. I brought up people of other races too. That's my point. Everyone can be a dick. You don't think Phillips can be a dick because he's Native American. I think he is, in spite of being a native American.  

You said about native american being dicks

All humans can be dicks and yet you bring up Native Americans

I tell you what it tells me, is that you have been triggered by the Conservative media

Phillips is a dick. He is a native American. You don't think that he can be both. I think people of all races and ethnicities can be dicks.

Who is drawing a conclusion that his ethnicity makes him different?

Sure as hell isn't me. tongue

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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:37 pm

Maddog wrote:
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All humans beings are capable of doing rights and wrongs

So why do you center on  Native indians for this?

Gotacha

You just exposed again that subconscious racial bias

I'm not centering on Native Americans. I brought up people of other races too. That's my point. Everyone can be a dick. You don't think Phillips can be a dick because he's Native American. I think he is, in spite of being a native American.  

I understand what you're saying. Some people have behaved as if Phillips can't possibly be at fault because he's a native American and a "man of peace". Some people deliberately miss the point.

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Post by Maddog on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:37 pm

Why do you think I brought up this thread?


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Post by Maddog on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:38 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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I'm not centering on Native Americans. I brought up people of other races too. That's my point. Everyone can be a dick. You don't think Phillips can be a dick because he's Native American. I think he is, in spite of being a native American.  

I understand what you're saying. Some people have behaved as if Phillips can't possibly be at fault because he's a native American and a "man of peace". Some people deliberately miss the point.

ding, ding, ding.

Fuck me Thor is dense or obtuse.

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Post by phildidge on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:38 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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I'm not centering on Native Americans. I brought up people of other races too. That's my point. Everyone can be a dick. You don't think Phillips can be a dick because he's Native American. I think he is, in spite of being a native American.  

I understand what you're saying. Some people have behaved as if Phillips can't possibly be at fault because he's a native American and a "man of peace". Some people deliberately miss the point.

Interesting, then why do you not see any fault in how some of the kids acted?

How about when one said rape is okay, if you enjoy it?

Hence double standards

I personally think Nathan did not help himself

But what did he actually do wrong by playing a song?

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Post by phildidge on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:40 pm

Maddog wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I understand what you're saying. Some people have behaved as if Phillips can't possibly be at fault because he's a native American and a "man of peace". Some people deliberately miss the point.

ding, ding, ding.

Fuck me Thor is dense or obtuse.

Did you not excuse a kid based on  his age, when  he said "rape is okay you enjoy it?

Ding ding

Maddog wins the contradiction award of the year

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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:41 pm

Thor wrote:
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I understand what you're saying. Some people have behaved as if Phillips can't possibly be at fault because he's a native American and a "man of peace". Some people deliberately miss the point.

Interesting, then why do you not see any fault in how some of the kids acted?

How about when one said rape is okay, if you enjoy it?

Hence double standards

I personally think Nathan did not help himself

But what did he actually do wrong by playing a song?

I didn't hear a kid say that.

I've told you several times, what Phillips did wrong was go for those kids after the event. He's a real piece of work IMO.

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Post by phildidge on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:45 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

Interesting, then why do you not see any fault in how some of the kids acted?

How about when one said rape is okay, if you enjoy it?

Hence double standards

I personally think Nathan did not help himself

But what did he actually do wrong by playing a song?

I didn't hear a kid say that.

I've told you several times, what Phillips did wrong was go for those kids after the event. He's a real piece of work IMO.

Check the other thread, the link is there, to how he said this

He never went after kids, that is how your warped mind perceives that, when he simple played a traditional song

I understand your ignorance here based on you not knowing much about natice American indian cultures and music

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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:48 pm

Thor wrote:
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I didn't hear a kid say that.

I've told you several times, what Phillips did wrong was go for those kids after the event. He's a real piece of work IMO.

Check the other thread, the link is there, to how he said this

He never went after kids, that is how your warped mind perceives that, when he simple played a traditional song

I understand your ignorance here based on  you not knowing much about natice American indian cultures and music

I keep on and on telling you - I'm talking about afterwards. What is the point in discussing this with you if you don't read my posts properly?

He did go after them. Watch his interviews and you'll see. He went after them when he made a scene outside the church as well. He's not a nice man. It's nothing to do with culture - it's to do with his personality.

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Post by phildidge on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:51 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

Check the other thread, the link is there, to how he said this

He never went after kids, that is how your warped mind perceives that, when he simple played a traditional song

I understand your ignorance here based on  you not knowing much about natice American indian cultures and music

I keep on and on telling you - I'm talking about afterwards. What is the point in discussing this with you if you don't read my posts properly?

He did go after them. Watch his interviews and you'll see. He went after them when he made a scene outside the church as well. He's not a nice man. It's nothing to do with culture - it's to do with his personality.

Well for the record, that kid made the view about rape before this all kicked off

As did the same kids earlier call a woman a slut in another video i posted and proved at least two were the same people at the event

He and 60 native Indians protested at a church

They have a right to a protest by singing


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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:58 pm

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I keep on and on telling you - I'm talking about afterwards. What is the point in discussing this with you if you don't read my posts properly?

He did go after them. Watch his interviews and you'll see. He went after them when he made a scene outside the church as well. He's not a nice man. It's nothing to do with culture - it's to do with his personality.

Well for the record, that kid made the view about rape before this all kicked off

As did the same kids earlier call a woman a slut in another video i posted and proved at least two were the same people at the event

He and 60 native Indians protested at a church

They have a right to a protest by singing


Those people protesting were nasty and objectionable. Phillips went there to harangue the church goers about the boys. You think he's a hero, and I think he's a self-centred, arrogant idiot with a sense of entitlement. He should be told where to shove his demands.

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Post by phildidge on Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:01 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

Well for the record, that kid made the view about rape before this all kicked off

As did the same kids earlier call a woman a slut in another video i posted and proved at least two were the same people at the event

He and 60 native Indians protested at a church

They have a right to a protest by singing


Those people protesting were nasty and objectionable. Phillips went there to harangue the church goers about the boys. You think he's a hero, and I think he's a self-centred, arrogant idiot with a sense of entitlement. He should be told where to shove his demands.

So to you, they were nasty by standing outside a church singing?

He did not harangue any church goer, in fact he never spoke or stop a single one of them

I think anyone that stands up against vile hated is a hero

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:05 am

Thor wrote:
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Those people protesting were nasty and objectionable. Phillips went there to harangue the church goers about the boys. You think he's a hero, and I think he's a self-centred, arrogant idiot with a sense of entitlement. He should be told where to shove his demands.

So to you, they were nasty by standing outside a church singing?

He did not harangue any church goer, in fact he never spoke or stop a single one of them

I think anyone that stands up against vile hated is a hero

You must think that I'm a hero then because I'm standing up against the hatred emanating from Phillips and his mates.

Surely you don't really think they went there to sing a song. If you do think that, you're pretty stupid.

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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:06 am

He also lied about Vietnam.

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Post by phildidge on Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:07 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thor wrote:

So to you, they were nasty by standing outside a church singing?

He did not harangue any church goer, in fact he never spoke or stop a single one of them

I think anyone that stands up against vile hated is a hero

You must think that I'm a hero then because I'm standing up against the hatred emanating from Phillips and his mates.

Surely you don't really think they went there to sing a song. If you do think that, you're pretty stupid.

What vile hatred did he perpetuate by forgiving those he claimed mocked him?

They went to protest by singing

How is that hateful when in the many masses I have attended, I sang many hymns and christian songs?


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Post by Raggamuffin on Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:09 am

Thor wrote:
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You must think that I'm a hero then because I'm standing up against the hatred emanating from Phillips and his mates.

Surely you don't really think they went there to sing a song. If you do think that, you're pretty stupid.

What vile hatred did he perpetuate by forgiving those he claimed mocked him?

They went to protest by singing

How is that hateful when in the many masses I have attended, I sang many hymns and christian songs?


Now you're just trolling. You know that you got this all wrong and you're desperately introducing red herrings all over the place.

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Post by phildidge on Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:11 am

Thor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You must think that I'm a hero then because I'm standing up against the hatred emanating from Phillips and his mates.

Surely you don't really think they went there to sing a song. If you do think that, you're pretty stupid.

What vile hatred did he perpetuate by forgiving those he claimed mocked him?

They went to protest by singing

How is that hateful when in the many masses I have attended, I sang many hymns and christian songs?


One last point Rags

Did not jesus also forgive those who mocked him

The funniest thing is Rags, maybe you should learn your own scriptures you believe in

You sound like the criminal that hated Jesus here

Go figure

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Luke 23:34-46 TPT
While they were nailing Jesus to the cross, he prayed over and over, “Father, forgive them, for they don’t know what they’re doing.” The soldiers, after they crucified him, gambled over his clothing. A great crowd gathered to watch what was happening. The religious leaders sneered at Jesus and mocked him, saying, “Look at this man! What kind of ‘chosen Messiah’ is this? He pretended to save others, but he can’t even save himself!” The soldiers joined in the mockery by offering Jesus a drink of vinegar. Over Jesus’ head on the cross was written an inscription in Greek, Latin, and Aramaic: “This man is the king of all the Jews.” And all the soldiers laughed and scoffed at him, saying, “Hey! If you’re the king of Jews, why don’t you save yourself?” One of the criminals hanging on the cross next to Jesus kept ridiculing him, saying, “What kind of Messiah are you? Save yourself and save us from this death!” The criminal hanging on the other cross rebuked the man, saying, “Don’t you fear God? You’re about to die! We deserve to be condemned, for we’re just being repaid for what we’ve done. But this man—he’s done nothing wrong!” Then he said, “I beg of you, my Lord Jesus, show me grace and take me with you into your everlasting kingdom!” Jesus responded, “I promise you—this very day you will enter paradise with me.” It was now only midday, yet the whole world became dark for three hours as the light of the sun faded away. And suddenly in the temple the thick veil hanging in the Holy Place was ripped in two! Then Jesus cried out with a loud voice, “Father, I surrender my Spirit into your hands.” And he took his last breath and died.

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