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Post by Andy on Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:37 pm

For belonging to a proscribed group and for rather ludicrously  naming their child Adolf.

How dumb ARE these far right nutters?

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Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:52 am

Smile

Something strange here today, Komrad Andyski...

None of our resident fascist-defending fucktards (i.e. Tommy, Fred, Sly, nicko, Horatio Troll & company..) have yet to invade this thread to insult and abuse you..

Maybe some of those far right nutters over there are too extreme even for the 'usual suspects' on here to jump to their defence.

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Post by nicko on Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:01 am

Fuck off you retard Laughing
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Post by Andy on Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:13 pm

Wolfie has a point, though. No comment or condemnation either.
I wonder whether Tommy is a bit annoyed with the sentence.

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:38 pm

Andy wrote:Wolfie has a point, though. No comment or condemnation either.
I wonder whether Tommy is a bit annoyed with the sentence.

Perhaps the case is that some of us have such real cause to loathe Nazism - because we have had experience of real Nazism... and have no need to prattle endlessly about it in forums such as this in an attempt simply to demonstrate some sort of non-existent moral superiority.

I wonder whether posturing fools such as Wolfie and yourself had your home town bombed by by a real Nazi Luftwaffe night after night?

Did either of you ever stand in a school assembly to be told by a grief-stricken head teacher that some of your schoolmates would never be with you again because they and their families had been among the victims of the previous night's blitz?

Did you ever go to bed hungry night after night, and your parents even hungrier, because your homeland was being starved into submission by a real Nazi Kreigsmarine?

Well, I did...so don't either of you try to tell me that I and people like me "defend" Nazis and Fascists when you don't even know what the bloody words mean outside the confines of your own limited knowledge.

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:17 pm

Fred Moletrousers wrote:
Andy wrote:Wolfie has a point, though. No comment or condemnation either.
I wonder whether Tommy is a bit annoyed with the sentence.

Perhaps the case is that some of us have such real cause to loathe Nazism - because we have had experience of real Nazism... and have no need to prattle endlessly about it in forums such as this in an attempt simply to demonstrate some sort of non-existent moral superiority.

I wonder whether  posturing fools such as Wolfie and yourself had your home town bombed by by a real  Nazi Luftwaffe night after night?

Did either of you ever stand in a school assembly to be told by a grief-stricken head teacher that some of your schoolmates would never be with you again because they and their families had been among the victims of the previous night's blitz?

Did you ever go to bed hungry night after night, and your parents even hungrier, because your homeland was being starved into submission by a real Nazi Kreigsmarine?

Well, I did...so don't either of you try to tell me that I and people like me "defend" Nazis and Fascists when you don't even know what the bloody words mean outside the confines of your own limited knowledge.

Fred, the experience of losing someone close is devastating. But grief and sorrow are not the only odors that attach to nazism. A lot can be learned, analytically, about the politics, psychology, economics, etc., of authoritarianism. Books such as Alan Bullock, Hitler: A Study in Tyranny; Donna Hersch, German Social Democracy and the Rise of Nazism; Conan Fischer, The Rise of National Socialism and the Working Classes in Weimar Germany; Eugene Davidson, The Making of Adolf Hitler: The Birth and Rise of Nazism...are written to advise of us of another possible coming of the same chemistry, however remote it seems. It's best to remain vigilant.

As history gains distance from the original experience, some in our midst tend to recreate the conditions that brought about the original. Maybe it's human nature. The clothes are up-to-date, but the attitude and conduct are the same old shit. What do you think Charlottesville was? It deserves a passing comment.

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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:58 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Perhaps the case is that some of us have such real cause to loathe Nazism - because we have had experience of real Nazism... and have no need to prattle endlessly about it in forums such as this in an attempt simply to demonstrate some sort of non-existent moral superiority.

I wonder whether  posturing fools such as Wolfie and yourself had your home town bombed by by a real  Nazi Luftwaffe night after night?

Did either of you ever stand in a school assembly to be told by a grief-stricken head teacher that some of your schoolmates would never be with you again because they and their families had been among the victims of the previous night's blitz?

Did you ever go to bed hungry night after night, and your parents even hungrier, because your homeland was being starved into submission by a real Nazi Kreigsmarine?

Well, I did...so don't either of you try to tell me that I and people like me "defend" Nazis and Fascists when you don't even know what the bloody words mean outside the confines of your own limited knowledge.

Fred, the experience of losing someone close is devastating.  But grief and sorrow are not the only odors that attach to nazism.  A lot can be learned, analytically, about the politics, psychology, economics, etc., of authoritarianism.  Books such as Alan Bullock, Hitler: A Study in Tyranny; Donna Hersch, German Social Democracy and the Rise of Nazism; Conan Fischer, The Rise of National Socialism and the Working Classes in Weimar Germany; Eugene Davidson, The Making of Adolf Hitler: The Birth and Rise of Nazism...are written to advise of us of another possible coming of the same chemistry, however remote it seems.  It's best to remain vigilant.

As history gains distance from the original experience, some in our midst tend to recreate the conditions that brought about the original.  Maybe it's human nature.  The clothes are up-to-date, but the attitude and conduct are the same old shit.  What do you think Charlottesville was?  It deserves a passing comment.

True enough, but having someone aim a 250 kilogram bomb at you or denying you the simple pleasure of eating a banana did tend to concentrate the mind wonderfully.

And I did, of course, learn a lot more about the true nature of Nazi and Fascist philosophy (and practices), even though I was a few years older at the time.
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Post by Original Quill on Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:08 pm

Fred M. wrote:True enough, but having someone aim a 250 kilogram bomb at you or denying you the simple pleasure of eating a banana did tend to concentrate the mind wonderfully.

And I did, of course, learn a lot more about the true nature of Nazi and Fascist philosophy (and practices), even though I was a few years older at the time.

I hear you.

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Post by Andy on Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:20 pm

My fathers house in Plumstead was bombed whilst he was at home - the bomb went through the roof, missed him by feet and lodged , unexploded in the ground floor.
I lost 3 uncles at the hands of the Nazis.
Don't patronize me Fred, why do you think I consider you are far right or a Nazi supporter?
I think you are a true blue wealthy Tory, big house, and rather sneering and condescending to mere working class and lefties.

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Post by nicko on Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:45 pm

Oh dear, Labour jealousy rears it's ugly head !
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Post by Fred Moletrousers on Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:09 am

Andy wrote:My fathers house in Plumstead was bombed whilst he was at home - the bomb went through the roof, missed him by feet and lodged , unexploded in the ground floor.
I lost 3 uncles at the hands of the Nazis.
Don't patronize me Fred, why do you think I consider you are far right or a Nazi supporter?
I think you are a true blue wealthy Tory, big house, and rather sneering and condescending to mere working class and lefties.

Then one might reasonably have thought that you might have appreciated the sheer stupidity of screeching "Nazi" and "Fascist" at anyone who dares to challenge Left wing dogma.

And, not for the first time, you have managed to provide the "ass" in assumption.
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Post by nicko on Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:34 am

Andy, put Brain in gear before selecting Mouth !
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