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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun 25 Nov - 21:55

Portuguese police are probing whether toddler woke up and walked out of flat
Met Police's Operation Grange inquiry is separate to Portuguese detectives'
But both met up recently to discuss possibility she was taken after wandering off
Previous lines of investigation included a bungled burglary at the apartment  

Portuguese police are investigating the theory that Madeleine McCann disappeared after waking up and walking out of her parents' Algarve holiday apartment.

Sources close to the probe into the three-year-old's 2007 disappearance say investigators are revisiting the possibility something happened to her after she left the flat - and not inside.

The Home Office announced last week it would grant an extra £150,000 to Operation Grange to keep the investigation going until spring next year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6426393/Police-Portugal-investigate-theory-Madeleine-McCann-left-apartment-parents.html


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Post by HoratioTarr on Sun 25 Nov - 21:58

You know all this money still being spent? Wouldn't it be better spent setting up a fund to help ALL the parents of missing children to at least have a fair bash at publicising their plight? Funding for those who can't afford it, or haven't the wherewithal to do this?
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Post by Vintage on Sun 25 Nov - 22:02

I totally agree with your second statement. All parents of missing children should have the same resources.

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Post by nicko on Mon 26 Nov - 7:15

Do the McCann's have "something" on our Government ?

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Post by HoratioTarr on Mon 26 Nov - 11:27

nicko wrote:Do the McCann's have "something" on our Government ?


I doubt it. But the husband is a mason, so perhaps there was some back up coming from that.
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Post by nicko on Mon 26 Nov - 12:17

Now you mention it H/T , there are a lot of police who are Masons !
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Post by HoratioTarr on Mon 26 Nov - 14:44

nicko wrote:Now you mention it H/T , there are a lot of police who are Masons !

More than you'll ever know. I was married to one.
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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Mon 26 Nov - 17:25

So what if they're Masons?
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Post by HoratioTarr on Mon 26 Nov - 18:17

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:So what if they're Masons?


Well, for starters they bend over backwards to help each other. Speeding tickets got wiped. Doors and freebies got opened. Eyes were closed if certain transgressions happened. I saw it firsthand. Within the police. My husband got into the police because of a masonic helping hand.
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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Mon 26 Nov - 18:29

HoratioTarr wrote:
*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:So what if they're Masons?


Well, for starters they bend over backwards to help each other.   Speeding tickets got wiped.  Doors and freebies got opened.  Eyes were closed if certain transgressions happened.  I saw it firsthand.   Within the police.  My husband got into the police because of a masonic helping hand.

So how do you think the Masons helped the McCanns?
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Post by Original Quill on Mon 26 Nov - 18:37

HoratioTarr wrote:
*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:So what if they're Masons?


Well, for starters they bend over backwards to help each other.   Speeding tickets got wiped.  Doors and freebies got opened.  Eyes were closed if certain transgressions happened.  I saw it firsthand.   Within the police.  My husband got into the police because of a masonic helping hand.

Sounds like the Mormons.

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Post by Tommy Monk on Mon 26 Nov - 23:50

If I remember rightly... the McCanns were originally claiming that the apartment was locked tight and had been broken in to... they said that the windows and shutters had been "jemmied up"...


But... it was quickly established that there was no sign of any break in or "jemmied up" shutters/windows...


So... why would they make up such a bullshit story from the start...???


The girl wandering off on her own would have initially been a much more likely story...


I wonder why the McCanns felt the need to tell such lies about things from the start...???


In my opinion... honest people with nothing to hide, don't behave in that way...!



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Post by phildidge on Tue 27 Nov - 0:08

HoratioTarr wrote:
*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:So what if they're Masons?


Well, for starters they bend over backwards to help each other.   Speeding tickets got wiped.  Doors and freebies got opened.  Eyes were closed if certain transgressions happened.  I saw it firsthand.   Within the police.  My husband got into the police because of a masonic helping hand.


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Post by HoratioTarr on Tue 27 Nov - 11:57

Original Quill wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:


Well, for starters they bend over backwards to help each other.   Speeding tickets got wiped.  Doors and freebies got opened.  Eyes were closed if certain transgressions happened.  I saw it firsthand.   Within the police.  My husband got into the police because of a masonic helping hand.

Sounds like the Mormons.

Same beast different head
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Post by HoratioTarr on Tue 27 Nov - 11:58

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:


Well, for starters they bend over backwards to help each other.   Speeding tickets got wiped.  Doors and freebies got opened.  Eyes were closed if certain transgressions happened.  I saw it firsthand.   Within the police.  My husband got into the police because of a masonic helping hand.

So how do you think the Masons helped the McCanns?

Who knows. I think the whole incident stinks anyway. We've had that discussion on here before.
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Post by HoratioTarr on Tue 27 Nov - 12:18

From what I remember, within Freemasonry, is that a member's promise is sworn via oath and ritual, along with his obligation and word of loyalty to the fraternity. One must also believe in a higher divine energy. It's a you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours type of thing.

Let's face it, why would you join something like this, and pledge fealty to a brotherhood, if you weren't going to get anything in return?
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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Tue 27 Nov - 12:19

HoratioTarr wrote:From what I remember, within Freemasonry, is that a member's  promise is sworn via oath and ritual, along with his obligation and word of loyalty to the fraternity.    One must also believe in a higher divine energy.  It's a you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours type of thing.  

Let's face it, why would you join something like this, and pledge fealty to a brotherhood, if you weren't going to get anything in return?

Sure, but covering up the death or disappearance of a child?
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Post by HoratioTarr on Tue 27 Nov - 12:53

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:From what I remember, within Freemasonry, is that a member's  promise is sworn via oath and ritual, along with his obligation and word of loyalty to the fraternity.    One must also believe in a higher divine energy.  It's a you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours type of thing.  

Let's face it, why would you join something like this, and pledge fealty to a brotherhood, if you weren't going to get anything in return?

Sure, but covering up the death or disappearance of a child?

Who said the masons were part of that? I didn't. I implied that the funding and support could have been a rallying around of masonic 'brothers'. It's perfectly plausible.
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Post by >THE Ben Reilly< on Tue 27 Nov - 13:01

HoratioTarr wrote:
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HoratioTarr wrote:From what I remember, within Freemasonry, is that a member's  promise is sworn via oath and ritual, along with his obligation and word of loyalty to the fraternity.    One must also believe in a higher divine energy.  It's a you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours type of thing.  

Let's face it, why would you join something like this, and pledge fealty to a brotherhood, if you weren't going to get anything in return?

Sure, but covering up the death or disappearance of a child?

Who said the masons were part of that?   I didn't.  I implied that the funding and support could have been a rallying around of masonic 'brothers'.   It's perfectly plausible.  

Would they need that? I thought they were rich and also had donations pouring in from around the world.
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Post by HoratioTarr on Tue 27 Nov - 13:18

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

Who said the masons were part of that?   I didn't.  I implied that the funding and support could have been a rallying around of masonic 'brothers'.   It's perfectly plausible.  

Would they need that? I thought they were rich and also had donations pouring in from around the world.

Someone has to organise that.
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Post by HoratioTarr on Tue 27 Nov - 13:19

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

Who said the masons were part of that?   I didn't.  I implied that the funding and support could have been a rallying around of masonic 'brothers'.   It's perfectly plausible.  

Would they need that? I thought they were rich and also had donations pouring in from around the world.

If they were that rich they wouldn't be relying on donations. Also, how come no other poor parent of missing kids has had this much 'help'?
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