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Post by phildidge on Sat 24 Nov 2018 - 11:39

Tom Clifford is an Irish journalist. He has written for Japan Times, Irish Independent, the South China Morning Post, Gulf News, the Prague Post and many other publications. He is currently based in Beijing.

Strange. A White House never shy about proclaiming its achievements, real or imagined, has been uncharacteristically reluctant to inform the world about one of its major successes: Easing the hostility between China and Japan.

Modesty? No, more likely those who toil on Pennsylvania Avenue were probably blindsided by the speed with which China and Japan overcame their mistrust and decided to trade insults for, well, more trade.

The rapprochement occurred before the Papua New Guinea APEC summit that ended in rancor after its failure to produce a joint communiqué because of tensions between the United States and China over trade and security issues. This was the first time that APEC leaders were unable to agree on a formal written declaration. Officially, this was because the US wanted the declaration to call for the World Trade Organization to be reformed, putting China in the position of championing the status quo. Unofficially, the two countries view each other with growing mistrust. They were never going to agree.

Both view the Indo-Pacific region as their battleground. At the moment the battle is for ideas and influence but could at some future date live up, literally, to its description.

Mike Pence, the US vice-president demanded at APEC that China “change its ways” on trade, intellectual property and human rights, and ridiculed Chinese President Xi Jinping’s “one belt, one road” multinational infrastructure initiative as a “debt trap” for the greedy and unsuspecting.

But Xi will not be too bothered. Unlike Barack Obama, who “pivoted” to Asia, China realizes Trump is pivoting on the golf course. His commitment to Asia is less than wholehearted.

No one knows this better than Xi who has gone out of his way to improve relations with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

At the end of October Abe was wined and dined by Xi after an elaborate reception at the Great Hall of The People in Beijing. It was of huge significance.

It is not an exaggeration to say that these two countries came close to conflict on a number of occasions in the past six years over disputed islands. Neither was it unusual, especially at this time of year, for anti-Japanese criticism to be given full volume in China as the anniversary of the Nanjing Massacre approaches.

The massacre and mass rape occurred in Dec 1937 and the first indication that a new diplomatic front was being opened appeared last December when the level of anti-Japanese commentary in the Chinese media was far less than in previous years. We know now that discussions were well underway for Abe’s visit and that there would be no repeat of his visit in 2014 when Xi did nothing to hide his displeasure, distaste even, at shaking Abe’s hand in front of the world cameras.

So, why the shift?

With the clogging of the trade pipes to the US it was vital that China lock in and secure Japanese trade, not least its supplies of precision tools and know-how. No one in Beijing expects ties with America to improve any time soon, regardless of the press releases focusing on a common future, win-win situations, the usual guff, that are bound to emerge from the G20 in Buenos Aires next month.

Japan too, is feeling bruised by Washington. When Trump came to office he withdrew the US from the Trans-Pacific Partnership. This trade agreement, covering 12 countries would cement US involvement in the area. And Trump has treated North Korea and Russia as erstwhile friends while shunning or criticizing America’s proven allies.

But doesn’t Abe risk being crushed by the panda’s embrace?

Japan wants to invest. Its central bank is sitting on assets greater than the value of the Japanese economy. It needs to place it somewhere and China Belt and Road is crying out for Japanese cash and expertise.

Greater investment opportunities in China will lessen maritime tensions but not so much that Japan’s defense budget of c. $46 billion will stall for the first time in seven years. The hawks in Tokyo are happy. From Beijing’s viewpoint, APEC does not matter, at least not that much. Washington is distracted, its allies in the region are not exactly putting up a united front and better relations with Japan and an increase in investment from Tokyo are a real possibility. Early skirmishes on the new battleground of the 21st century are going well for China.


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Post by Original Quill on Sat 24 Nov 2018 - 17:00

More bullshite braggadocio from Trump?  This is the guy who said that North Korea was now his friend, so we can stop worrying about their nuclear weaspons.  Who said Saudi Arabia was buying $-billions from us, so we should help them with their murders.

It's hard to tell if the guy is just a strategic liar, or he is ol' gramps forgetting to zip up his fly.

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Post by veya_victaous on Sat 24 Nov 2018 - 21:55

this is concerning for Australia
Japan has jumped the gun and switched before us.

this creates a 2 fold problem for Aussies.
1st is the inevitability of Chinese dominance in the region, it was always the case but Trumps Presidency has accelerated it and we have not 'adjusted' for that.
2nd is we're in a weaker position when we negotiate our switch, while beholden to the USA militarily we are no more beholden than Japan, and economically we are already beholden to China and our 2nd major trading partner is Japan. so we are in no position to hold out against the pair of them if they applied economic pressure.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Sun 25 Nov 2018 - 1:17


There has always been that philosophical divide between "East and West"...

China and India are "in it for the long haul", economically speaking,  looking ahead decades, even centuries..

Since the rise of the "corporatist" free-market "greed is good" mindset of Western big business models since the end of the 19th century (including Japan post-WWII..), many of todays companies don't plan more than 3 to 5 years ahead, often controlled by prioritising shareholder returns above smart business, best practices or environmental sustainability (not that communist China, nationalist Russia or over-populated India did any better on the pollution front..).

Many western countries, especially the USA, Britain and France, have been "caught on the back foot", figuratively speaking, by the economic growth in China, S.E. Asia and India over the last few years;  leading now to an increasing risk of  small and middling countries deserting the USA and drifting towards more trade (and political links) with Asia.

And all the while the bottom 40% of the American voting population --  the uneducated, the witless, the close-minded "evangelicals", the racists and ultra-nationalists, the climate denialists and the corporate suckups  --  are throwing their lot in with the Trumpette "we are the gwatest !!! " users, accelerating America's decline over the coming decades, as they delude themselves about some imagined superiority in "inventiveness" and "entrepreneurship"..

And increasing the probability of a 'Disunited States of America' breaking up into 3, 4 or 5 smaller entities, and maybe sitting in 4th place (combined) among the world's economies, before the end of this century...

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