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Police warn moped criminals: We can ram you off bikes even if you aren't wearing a helmet

Post by Thor on Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:01 pm

Police officers have finally been given the green light to fight back against moped criminals as Scotland Yard says they will ram suspects off their bikes even if they are not wearing helmets.

Moped and motorcycle criminals will be targeted "at every opportunity", even when they ride dangerously, discard their helmets and disguise themselves, the head of the Met's Operation Venice Team has said.

Confusion over the existing rules meant many officers were reluctant to give chase to criminals, fearing that they will be hauled over the coals if the rider is injured or killed.

It saw moped gangs, who have been responsible for a recent wave in street violence and robberies, emboldened, believing they can make an easy getaway by simply removing their helmets.

But earlier this year the Home Office has said it wanted to “smash the myth” and give police officers the confidence to give chase knowing they will not be held responsible for the actions of the criminal.

Footage released on Friday by the Met show the tactics that specially trained drivers are now able to use to reduce the need for pursuits and prevent injury occurring to offenders and members of the public. The video includes examples of police ramming moped riders off their bikes, including one scenario where a rider is not wearing a helmet.

It is hoped that by demonstrating the full range of tactics that officers are prepared to use against moped and motorcycle criminals, potential offenders will think twice about their actions, Scotland Yard said.


telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/23/police-will-ram-moped-criminals-bikes-even-arent-wearing-helmets/

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Post by nicko on Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:16 pm

About time !
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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:31 pm

Sounds like Trump.

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Post by Thor on Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:42 pm

Original Quill wrote:Sounds like Trump.


I see you are not weighing up the possible consequences again, to the ration of actual people hurt and killed by such moped gangs?

This tactice is working, as its taking these people off the streets without any major harm even done to the criminals

As before they easily got away to continue to commit many more crimes

Hence you are not weighing up the consequences of before, when they could not impose such an action

I suggest you look on the link to the stats on this kind of crime

Seems to me, you want to protect the criminal more than the actual victims here

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Post by magica on Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:43 pm

About time too. They stick two fingers up at the law, now they will feel the full force of the law. Great news.
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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:58 pm

Why don't you guys just legalize use of firearms, then you won't have to bother the police with your minor traffic spats?

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Post by Thor on Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:13 pm

Original Quill wrote:Why don't you guys just legalize use of firearms, then you won't have to bother the police with your minor traffic spats?

Well there is a major reason Quill

In the US, you have a different society

Americans, think they are cool, when they hold something powerful like a gun. Which shows how inherantly weak and insecure they are.

Its why you have so many people die each year

In the UK, we never have this problem and why year the police use methods to save lives, even the scum criminals

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:45 pm

Didge wrote:Americans, think they are cool, when they hold something powerful like a gun. Which shows how inherantly weak and insecure they are.

So the London police are doing this just because they think it's cool? Because an automobile is powerful? Because they are in inherently weak and insecure?

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Post by Thor on Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:46 pm

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Didge wrote:Americans, think they are cool, when they hold something powerful like a gun. Which shows how inherantly weak and insecure they are.

So the London police are doing this just because they think it's cool?  Because an automobile is powerful?  Because they are in inherently weak and insecure?

Where did anyone say it was cool?

I said Americans think they are cool holding power with a gun

They are basically cowards

Is it being done to actual empower Police to stop and aprehend criminals by knocking them over?

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:26 pm

Didge wrote:I said Americans think they are cool holding power with a gun

Like the power of running down mopeds?

Didge wrote:They are basically cowards

I tend to agree. We have the same heavy-handed policy with Trump in power.

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Post by Thor on Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:30 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Didge wrote:I said Americans think they are cool holding power with a gun

Like the power of running down mopeds?

Didge wrote:They are basically cowards

I tend to agree.  We have the same heavy-handed policy with Trump in power.

How many have been killed stopping them by this method?

This method is saving the lives of victims and criminals without then use of guns

Nobody is dying with such methods

ouch

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Post by Original Quill on Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:33 pm

I know. Killing babies is promoting peace. I've heard this before.

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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:34 pm

methinks quill is one of those lawyers who we would do well sending on the first transport to alpha centauri perps rights first, victims waayyy down the list ...unless it suits his politics

so he is happy for the working folks to be robbed by these useless scum, and wants the scum protecting from the justifiable results of their own actions.

I think its called sedition...seeking to create a situation which destabilises society for the profit of gaining political power.
quite frankly I wouldnt mind if the police WERE to shoot a few of these wastrels, consider it a hazard of their (the wastrels) occupation.


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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:35 pm

Haven't there been cases of people on mopeds chucking acid at people?

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Post by Lord Foul on Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:36 pm

Original Quill wrote:I know.  Killing babies is promoting peace.  I've heard this before.

have you had another "line"

1 they are not "babies"
2 they are useless criminals
3 they themselves offer violence to their victims
4 what of the victims????
5 they are not actually trying to kill them ......but if it should happen...tough....

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Post by Raggamuffin on Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:37 pm

Original Quill wrote:Why don't you guys just legalize use of firearms, then you won't have to bother the police with your minor traffic spats?

I don't think that street violence and robberies are minor traffic spats.

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Re: Police warn moped criminals: We can ram you off bikes even if you aren't wearing a helmet

Post by WhoseYourWolfie on Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:31 am

Smile

No real need to "ram" crims on mopeds and scooters...

Not when a nice friendly 'tap' against their back wheel from a pursuing police vehicle will send them flying, anyways..

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Post by Original Quill on Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:13 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Smile

No real need to "ram" crims on mopeds and scooters...

Not when a nice friendly 'tap' against their back wheel from a pursuing police vehicle will send them flying, anyways..

Better yet...send some bullets flying. cheers No, I get your point wolf. There are better ways...

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Post by nicko on Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:20 am

For example ?
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Post by Original Quill on Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:41 pm

nicko wrote:For example ?

Wolf wrote:...a nice friendly 'tap' against their back wheel from a pursuing police vehicle will send them flying, anyways..

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Post by veya_victaous on Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:02 pm

I presume the officer will 'tap' them in the first instance.

this is a sensible 'correction' to what was previously a 'silly British law'.
which had create a loophole being abused by criminals.

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